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    Would the RNS 510 fit the A3?

    As above guys, would it fit? looks the same seems cheaper and has the 30gb harddrive and touch screen etc.

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    Interesting question. So far found this:

    http://vwnavi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7101
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    Seems you can pick one up fot about 400-500 too! Would be nice if it was just a plug n play hey.

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    I found another site where guys were saying the RNS-E was better than the 510 on other functions

    I think the 2010 RNS-E is a better option.
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    But the price is that much higher for a 2010 RNS-E

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    Well yeah, so you just have to decide how much you want it!
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    So as per the original question, I need to know if it's compatible or not.

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    From Reading that thread on the link, it seems the RNSE's only advantages are..... Quick mute, and slighlty quicker (in his opinion) . I see th other adavantages as, built in Bluetooth, touchscreen, hard-drive, HD radio. Video camera in etc

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    Well the link says probably not, that's why I posted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staz View Post
    I found another site where guys were saying the RNS-E was better than the 510 on other functions

    I think the 2010 RNS-E is a better option.

    Whats the 2010 RNS-E got over the last one then Staz? I didn't spec it on my new car, but wonderng now if I should have it's much better.
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    Maybe you shoud've spec'd it... open market they appear to be relatively rare even though some say they are easy to source. Personally I would've gone factory fit for :

    (1) Good Radio Reception
    (2) TV Tuner
    (3) Graphical PDC (Parking Display Control)

    1 & 2 can be resolved with workarounds in my opinion (DVB\DAB) but 3 cannot be supported on units < 2010.

    There are other benefits but I have listed the ones important to me. Other benefits include hi-res screen, large SD card capabilities, faster CPU for quicker maps.

    hindsight a wonderful thing... but one thing for sure, i hope you don't fall victim to the cr@p radio reception problem so many are suffering on here after a retro fit... me being one of them!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staz View Post
    Interesting question. So far found this:

    http://vwnavi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7101
    That link has been changed:

    RNS 510 going to be offered by Audi?

    One of the posters thinks "Fitting an RNS510 to an Audi is likely to be problematic due to the canbus messages being different I expect"

    Shame, the DAB option and built in bluetooth would have been nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andykn View Post
    That link has been changed:

    RNS 510 going to be offered by Audi?

    One of the posters thinks "Fitting an RNS510 to an Audi is likely to be problematic due to the canbus messages being different I expect"

    Shame, the DAB option and built in bluetooth would have been nice.
    A slightly more definite view that it wouldn't work:

    Rns-e / Rns 510 - Audi Forum

    "VW and Audi CAN is different, therefore VW devices will not work properly in an Audi."
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    I would doubt that its that black & white, i thought canbus was a set standard. The golf & A3 share several components like the gateway network card for example too. Thats said, I doubt it would work properly too though NHN & I did discuss it once.
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    I see no reason why the CAN-bus would be different, it's a standard as Khufu says. A compatibility issue may arise if the 510 sends messages on the bus that cannot be read but the Audi nodes, that makes more sense to me as to why it wouldn't work. Even then it wouldn't be impossible to do but it's a lot of work.
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    Blaupunkt do a generic CAN BUS adapter (7 607 500 501 001) (for vehicles without steering wheel remote controls) that has 4 DIP switches. The switch settings are common between Audi and Skoda but VW are slightly different.

    Unfortunately I've just spent quite a bit trying to get my Blaupunkt DAB 54 fitted in my A3 otherwise I'd be tempted to give it a try.
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    Does the 510 even slot into the A3 doubledin slot? I don't think it is so you'd also need to factor in a facia mod of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pii View Post
    Does the 510 even slot into the A3 doubledin slot? I don't think it is so you'd also need to factor in a facia mod of some sort.
    I think that'd be the least of the problems lol
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    lol - the main selling point (to me) of RNSE is that it just looks like it fits place, making the interiror seem that little more perfect. If you need to mod a facia to then it would take away that OEM feel. In which case I'd say go for an aftermarket unit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkp0897 View Post
    Maybe you shoud've spec'd it... open market they appear to be relatively rare even though some say they are easy to source. Personally I would've gone factory fit for :

    (1) Good Radio Reception
    (2) TV Tuner
    (3) Graphical PDC (Parking Display Control)

    1 & 2 can be resolved with workarounds in my opinion (DVB\DAB) but 3 cannot be supported on units < 2010.

    There are other benefits but I have listed the ones important to me. Other benefits include hi-res screen, large SD card capabilities, faster CPU for quicker maps.

    hindsight a wonderful thing... but one thing for sure, i hope you don't fall victim to the cr@p radio reception problem so many are suffering on here after a retro fit... me being one of them!!
    Don't forget it also has ...

    Faster processor
    Higher res screen
    AMI integration


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkp0897 View Post
    i hope you don't fall victim to the cr@p radio reception problem so many are suffering on here after a retro fit... me being one of them!!

    You need to look at this then. Kufatec are now selling antenna retrofit kits for Concert II+ to RNSe

    KUFATEC GmbH - Radio Antennensystem Audi A3 8P


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pii View Post
    lol - the main selling point (to me) of RNSE is that it just looks like it fits place, making the interiror seem that little more perfect. If you need to mod a facia to then it would take away that OEM feel. In which case I'd say go for an aftermarket unit!
    You then come back to my original problem that you can't get aftermarket units with DAB and Bluetooth built in. Let alone Navigation.
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    Ah the dreaded lack of DAB head unit...

    Not sure if it's possible but maybe you attach a DAB as an AUX input. Not ideal i know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pii View Post
    Ah the dreaded lack of DAB head unit...

    Not sure if it's possible but maybe you attach a DAB as an AUX input. Not ideal i know.
    If I could have found one I could operate like a CD changer, but I didn't want a windscreen stick on unit as reception isn't as good.
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    Yeah I would like bits hanging from windscreens.

    I don't know much about DAB radios. Are there no DAB that tuck inside glove box and you can wire into aftermarket ? I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pii View Post
    Yeah I would like bits hanging from windscreens.

    I don't know much about DAB radios. Are there no DAB that tuck inside glove box and you can wire into aftermarket ? I
    All I could find was a JVC unit that I think has to go with a compatible JVC head unit. As I already have a Blaupunkt DAB headunit it seemed easier just to add Bluetooth to that.
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    Or go for this one Zenec - Touch another World : Coming soon.

    The VW version does the same as the RNS510 check for instance YouTube - Zenec 2010

    The only problem is that they said that it would RTM last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders3404 View Post
    Or go for this one Zenec - Touch another World : Coming soon.

    The VW version does the same as the RNS510 check for instance YouTube - Zenec 2010

    The only problem is that they said that it would RTM last year
    No DAB, I think it uses Freeview Digital radio (DVB-T), more or less the same radio stations but over Freeview, which isn't designed to be received by moving vehicles, unlike DAB which is.
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