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    ARB: H&R vs. Eibach

    Hey Guys,

    I have Eibach Pro Kit and OEM Dampers.
    Next months i will replace by Coils, maybe Weitec/KW V1.

    I want to buy a good ARB set.

    I have been checking on AwesomeGti, and H&R ARB is mucher expensive as Eibach.

    justified to pay more ?
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    I have the Whiteline adjustable ones. They seem very good value for money. Mind you, I don't know why not more A3 drivers use the Whiteline products. The Golf 5 guys rave about the WALK...... I must say that it made a big difference on my A3.
    http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=395.0

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    Guys i have a question regarding the eibach springs. What is the difference between the Eibach Pro Kit model and the SportLine one?

    Many thanks.

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    Hieght I think.

    I had always considered going for h&r ARB's, never looked into whiteline or eibach personally.

    How much are the whiteline?

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    It is important to has ARB and dampers manufactured by the same brand?
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    @MarkSport - could you please post a pic with your car to see how lowered is your car ?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by influxsg View Post
    Guys i have a question regarding the eibach springs. What is the difference between the Eibach Pro Kit model and the SportLine one?

    Many thanks.

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    Lowers Car by: Front: 45-50 mm Rear: 35-40 mm

    Eibach Pro Kit
    Lowers Front: 30 mm Rear: 30 mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkSport View Post
    It is important to has ARB and dampers manufactured by the same brand?
    No but you have to take into consideration that the companies supplying both springs and ARB's have developed them together for that car so in their eyes, it is the optimal combination.

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    Personally we find the H&R ARBs better quality and slightly lighter but they are a fair chunk more then the Eibach's which are a really good set of bars. As mentioned, the Whiteline are also worth considering.

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    I have had both Eibach & H&R, what can I tell you.

    1st of all goto Damian@dpm mate, far better service than Awesome IMHO, also a great chap to.

    Eibach seemed to knock on the rear & wasnt fitment, fitting rear made a tremendous difference, but knocking was so damn annoying, so swapped to H&R, rear knocking went away but then got a front knocking, now I had gone for the 28mm, so I downgraded to the 26mm front & no more knocking at all & also adjusted the fitment slightly & ground down part of the subframe as the raised pointed area where casting was joined together during manufacturing by audi, was the issue on knocking IMHO, so would actually say its possible the 28mm would have been 100% tbh, such is life.

    But overall I'm extremely happy with the H&R's now & also service from Damian.

    No its not important to use same brand, I have Eibach Pro 30mm springs, Koni FSD shocks & H&R ARB's all from dpm.

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    I bought my H&R ARBs from Damian at DPM a couple of weeks ago - they are superb. Well worth the extra . (Great service and price from Damian too).
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    The Whiteline ARBs fitted without trouble, no knocking. I fitted the 24mm adjustable front and rear. I have the front on full soft and the rear on the middle setting. It suits me really well, almost no understeer and really nice balance. The Whiteline ARBs are slightly shorter than the German offerings by taking out the bend that is needed for the Quattro versions. This means that the 24mm will be comparable with German 26ish mm in roll resistance but with slightly lower weight. From memory, I paid around 175 each. The Whiteline WALK cost me 150..........

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    what is whiteline walk?

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    http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bul...20&%20MKVI.pdf

    http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bul...nti%20lift.pdf

    http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/bul...0Mk4%20MK5.pdf

    I had the Whiteline Anti Lift Kit on my Subaru before and found it worked realy well. Now with a front wheel drive, I notice even more difference.

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    Anti Lift Kit, amazing!

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    Anyone any experience with the KW ARB's? they are 260 from demon tweeks

    how much is the whiteline anti lift kit?

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    TBH boycie ask jamiekip about the H&R arb's, as he said they were great on his S3, for sake of 140 I'd want the best tbh on that car

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    I am still dead set on the H&R, just curious as to what else is out there.

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    I have H+R front and rear ARBs fitted which made the car handle a lot better and was a very good quality looking piece of kit. I come from a Seat forum where people used to have knocking issues with Eibach plus H+R are well know for producing very good quality stuff. Every tuning company i know tell me Whiteline stuff is cheap for a reason and to stay away from it, you get what you pay for same as hottuning coilovers on ebay are cheap for a reason.
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    The KW ARBs seem very heavy like for like compared to the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydie View Post
    how much is the whiteline anti lift kit?
    http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/whit...co-p-3624.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by devonmikeyboy View Post
    I have H+R front and rear ARBs fitted which made the car handle a lot better and was a very good quality looking piece of kit. I come from a Seat forum where people used to have knocking issues with Eibach plus H+R are well know for producing very good quality stuff. Every tuning company i know tell me Whiteline stuff is cheap for a reason and to stay away from it, you get what you pay for same as hottuning coilovers on ebay are cheap for a reason.
    I've never had any problems with the Whiteline stuff. It has always done exactly 'what it said on the tin'. I've read a lot of their technical papers on their website and found them very informative. I know from experience that both Eibach and H&R are very good manufacturers but I like the way Whiteline innovate with sound technical foundation. To compare them with cheap coilovers is a bit unfair. Whiteline is clearly a manufacturer that designs products that work well in my experience.

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    Got to agree, Whiteline is far from cheap and the quality on the products is great.

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    Would like to check if any of you gents have had only the rear ARB's fitted? I know someone who had the KW front and rear ARB's fitted, but through experimentation, found that only the rear ARB's were truly necessary. In the end, he removed the front ARB's and found handling and ride comfort to be much improved.

    I'm thinking of getting the H&R Front n Rear ARB's but am little hesitant based on his input. Otherwise I may just get the rear fitted. Is ride comfort substantially affected with both front and rears? I'm currently driving a stock S3 8P

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    What is the diameter of the standard front ARB on your S3? I tried my Whiteline 24mm front ARB on harder settings and found it increased understeer. It was best on the soft setting. So you might well be right that an uprated rear ARB and standard front ARB is the best solution.......... On my old Mk4 Golf I found that fitting only a rear ARB was best as well.

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    A thicker front bar will increase understeer and a thicker rear bar will increase oversteer. This is why you have to get the correct combination to get a balanced handling car.

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