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    Quote Originally Posted by HotboxDeluxe View Post
    What a load of bummers

    Given the trend for retro styled cars these days, what I'd really like to see from Ford is a new Capri, and it better be bloody RWD I tell thee...
    I think it's a long shot. Ford don't really have any EU market RWD platforms....

    It'll probably be some Haldex variant with a fancy electronic diff if they ever bother.

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    S'pose you're right there m8 bah, my hypothetical new Ford would have to be a Mustang then...handling is overrated anway

    V8 grunter and live-axle: that's handling that I'm comfortable with
    Still loving the 130i like the sideways dirtbag I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin140 View Post
    RS approx 24k but add leather etc and it around the same as a basic S3.

    I think the S3 would be pretty mean out on the road and makes all the right noises if into max power etc, far too 'loud' for me but I don't think its aimed at the same market, like it or not I think Ford should be applauded for putting it into production in the current financial climate and in many ways it arrives uncompromised as standard which is exactly what an RS3 would achieve if it ever arrives.

    Judgement though should be reserved until the car has actually been driven, when all the fuss has died down I Plan to take one out with no intention to buy just for the hell of it.

    On a positive note these cars could become great bargains when they hit the 2 year old mark, have you seen how little ST's are worth these days ?!?
    Not sure about this comment look at the history of all RS cars and the residuals, the last focus RS was still worth 15k after 5 years, no S3 is gonna do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irnbrukid View Post
    Not sure about this comment look at the history of all RS cars and the residuals, the last focus RS was still worth 15k after 5 years, no S3 is gonna do that.
    Only due to the fact that they were LE.

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    quality parking of the s3!!!

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    One very good reason not to buy a Focus... Its a barge:

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    sorry to say as an Audi lover i'd have the RS over the S3.

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    the Rs is one ugly looking car me thinks, compare it side by side the s3 looks so much classier. I would never spend 28 grand on a car like that no matter how fast it goes. Maybe I am just a brand snob
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiZBiT View Post
    Only due to the fact that they were LE.
    Is this one not going to be limited also

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch78 View Post
    stage IV? factory tunned engine to it's max?
    anyway i don't find it that ugly, i think it's the wrong look at me color and oversized everything compared to s3 which is more everyday car and when you need it, it turns into a beast. plus fwd against awd? and the cheap interior against audi's classy?? well if i'm going to pay that much for a car, everytime would go for a classy interior with the awd and not look at me styling. so s3 all the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinA3 View Post
    sorry to say as an Audi lover i'd have the RS over the S3.
    Me too especially in the green. Shame that colour's sold out.
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    Give it a couple of months and it'll be back. Just like the orange was limited to 500 cars on the ST, until they decided to let anyone have it after they all sold out.
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    Autocar magazine have just tested the new RS against the Nissan GT-R and the RS came out on top.

    For any car to be able to be even ranked near the GT-R is an amazing car nevermind beating it in terms of driving experience.

    The S3 wouldn't even get close.

    I guess its all about what you want from a car really but as i said before the RS would be my choice in the RS vs S3 topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinA3 View Post
    Autocar magazine have just tested the new RS against the Nissan GT-R and the RS came out on top.
    I'm sorry, but I think that's complete ********!

    The reason the RS came out on top was that he was having to drive the car at pretty much its limit to try and keep up with the GT-R, so in their eyes, had more fun. You can even see some points in the video they use where the GT-R is just taking the piss out of the Focus. As for the size, a GT-R's about 5cm wider than an RS and shorter than an A4. It's hardly huge.

    What I'd like to see is a completely unbiased magazine review of any car. It just doesn't seem to happen anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch78 View Post
    What I'd like to see is a completely unbiased magazine review of any car. It just doesn't seem to happen anymore.
    Totally agree!!!
    You sometimes can't help wondering what outside factors are involved nowadays!!!
    Evo and Porsche..... yawn, every group test reads the same
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    I would love an RS, but for one huge draw back.....

    Its just far too chavvy. Remove the **** looking spoiler for a start. Any 35+ bloke in it will look like they are having a mid life crisis! Gimme one for a day sure, but I couldn't honestly live with people laughing at me, or not taking me seriously!

    Great cars don't make you look like a bell end imho!

    I too would love to read reviews based on fact and unbiased opinions, rather than all this ****e they print, ive stopped buying mags now... well car mags anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotboxDeluxe View Post
    What a load of bummers

    Given the trend for retro styled cars these days, what I'd really like to see from Ford is a new Capri, and it better be bloody RWD I tell thee...
    pretty sure thats wrong, they haven't decided yet, I dont think its a deffo no
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    Quote Originally Posted by klauster View Post

    Great cars don't make you look like a bell end imho!
    I'm just over 30 and consider myself far too old to drive something that looks like the Focus RS
    Still loving the 130i like the sideways dirtbag I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotboxDeluxe View Post
    I'm just over 30 and consider myself far too old to drive something that looks like the Focus RS
    I'd love one. I like the looks and it'll drive well, being a recent Ford.
    And it would be in green.
    I'm 37 and would be more than happy to have an RS parked on the driveway.

    But...I stuggle to see where it fits, for me personally.
    If I was spending nearly 30k on a daft weekend wild thing, I can think of other cars that offer more, for less (OK, not new).
    If I wanted a really good new car for everyday use, considering the weather, it would be hard to take one over an S3.

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    Each to his own sir I'm with you on what it would be useful for though, I'm sure their are more fun cars to be had for 30k as toys, and more practical alternatives for family/daily use. I'm sure however it will have plenty of fans who will lap it up though, it is an RS after all

    I've got nothing against green and lairy, just never been a fan of wings n' tings...if I fancied sticking out like a sore thumb I'd be much happier rolling in this...

    Still loving the 130i like the sideways dirtbag I am

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    It does look like an ST thats crashed into Halfords.

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    I've driven the S3 (my car) and a couple of ST's, one was the standard ST and the other Ford tuned with 310 bhp(ish)...

    Unless the new RS is stupidly different to the ST i can't see how it would come close to comparing with an S3.

    The only thing which really gets me with the ST/RS is the sound they make

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    hmmm S3 or RS ? well the RS is a lot of money for what it is, but its got to be more fun than an audi ... my a3 .. well ok TDi is the most boring car i have ever owned, not sur if its the dsg or the car but its the only one i've looked to replace in less than 12 months of ownership. As soon as I can find the right spec focus st then it will go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveTDCi View Post
    hmmm S3 or RS ? well the RS is a lot of money for what it is, but its got to be more fun than an audi ... my a3 .. well ok TDi is the most boring car i have ever owned, not sur if its the dsg or the car but its the only one i've looked to replace in less than 12 months of ownership. As soon as I can find the right spec focus st then it will go.

    oh no steve youve done it now you have slagged a diesel your gona get some stick now lol ....No serious how come you think its boring though all i here is that deisels are better than petrol id like to here why you think its boring im thinking of getting a deisel myself after all the positives i hear on here my 2.0tfsi does cost quite alot in feul ......

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    Mine's boring as well. Don't get me wrong it's a very good car and I have deep respect for it's abilities...but it's still yawnsville
    Still loving the 130i like the sideways dirtbag I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotboxDeluxe View Post
    I'm just over 30 and consider myself far too old to drive something that looks like the Focus RS
    Im mid 20's yet I feel too old to be seen in the RS.
    I went through the max power modding phase during my teens but I honestly feel too old for that now. (That doesnt mean I dont appreciate tasteful mods anymore!)

    I own an S3 and I occasionally drive my GF's TTS...both very clinical and very boring. I have more fun in her mini cooper! It's feels and drives like a road legal go kart.
    Although the RS appears OTT with the brash styling and 'cheap' interior, I must admit it looks nice in blue...just my opinion though

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    for 30 bag id be getting an s5 or rs4 second hand although the focus rs in black looks nice but i just wouldnt bother i can think of tons of cars id want first ,s3 ,s3 sportback,rs4,s5 ,evo12 ,subaru impreza list goes on

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    You can't get the RS in black.
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    also A3, 320, Golf, Clio, Astra, Focus, Mondeo, Laguna, Escort, Calibra, 220, others and now back to a Focus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GConn View Post
    If you are looking for a car that drives like a street legal go cart, I think the S3 is not the right choice...
    I wanted a quickish hatchback with subtle styling and premium quality.
    The mini is fun but I couldn't live with it full time and drive it all day.

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    Beig part of the Blue Oval world for over 15 years,,, You have to understand the RS marque..

    All of them still demand lots of money for what they are?

    Motorsport Roots that ruled for a long time!

    Me personally love the Focus RS version 1 , it ate up the 212bhp easily? Forget about the aggressive diff , it was no more aggressive than say the DC5 Type R diff??

    The focus ST came out and i hated it.. The ST badge alone will never touch RS , hard to understand but thats how it is?

    I think the new RS is absolutly stunning and just shouts Hot Hatch... I am 30 years old and i would own in a heartbeat? As it is RS i bet its a absolute hoot to drive everyday

    Having owned a
    series 1 rs turbo custom
    sierra rs cosworth 3dr
    and quite a few other fast fords there just something there that seems to compell me

    I mean when i was like 7-10 years old and you seen a Sierra Rs Cosworth 3dr .. It was a speechless stare till out of sight.. Everthing in my bedroom WAS RS TURBO OR COSWORTH,, I wasn.t biest they just rocked.

    Now time has moved on and lots of exotica cars are around ,, i never get that feeling i had for 10years+ when i seen a RS Cosworth,, ok im older but still i know no car since has replicated them feelings

    You only have to go on passionford website, the following is massive there must be a reason for this

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    The RS isn't my cup of tea, but all the youngsters in work rant and rave about them. Unfortunately the over styling is what appeals to people of that age group. Forget about the power and cost, even if they are similar i would stick to the S3 as I am much tooooooooo old to be driving anything like that. On a side note though......I wonder how many people, me included say its over styled, but moaned about Audi not styling the S3 enough to separate it from the rest of the s-line range
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    Read the latest Evo magazine. Focus ST + 1096 Mountune upgrade to a claimed 256bhp is faster than the 300bhp RS.

    I'm starting to think you'd have to really really want that RS badge to not go for the ST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Read the latest Evo magazine. Focus ST + 1096 Mountune upgrade to a claimed 256bhp is faster than the 300bhp RS.

    I'm starting to think you'd have to really really want that RS badge to not go for the ST.
    True and people will

    Must admit the S3 could of done with wider arches and bit more of the top spec look

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch78 View Post
    You can't get the RS in black.
    when they were testing it they were westing a black one but when they brought the car out , its just green blue and white eh they should of done one in black would of looked very nice ...


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    TG tested the RS...Clarkson put his foot down and it tore the wheel out of his hand !! 300bhp + FWD + crap. Nuff said !
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    Quote Originally Posted by MancDave View Post
    True and people will

    Must admit the S3 could of done with wider arches and bit more of the top spec look
    RS3 should have these

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    TG tested the RS...Clarkson put his foot down and it tore the wheel out of his hand !! 300bhp + FWD + crap. Nuff said !
    Evo mag put it against a mountuned (rousch in the US) ST and the RS was beat



    nuff said

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    Mean while back at RS HQ !!

    Ok guys, lets put a kick arse spoiler on the back to keep the down force over the driv.....Oh bugger !! Its front wheel drive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    TG tested the RS...Clarkson put his foot down and it tore the wheel out of his hand !! 300bhp + FWD + crap. Nuff said !
    Hardly. He wasn't even holding the wheel at the time.
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    OK..I challenge you to pull out of a T junction turning right quickly It was bad enough in my old 190bhp VR6.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac1403 View Post
    The RS isn't my cup of tea, but all the youngsters in work rant and rave about them. On a side note though......I wonder how many people, me included say its over styled, but moaned about Audi not styling the S3 enough to separate it from the rest of the s-line range
    Considering the performance of the RS compared to other 09' fords I wouldnt say its uber over styled. i'd say its styling is 'predictable' looking at the ST and the new fiestas. Its a little vulgar compared to the more sophisticated Audi sure.

    I also agree the s3 does look annoyingly close to the sline also, though many people hate the new facelift with the led's as they look 'chavvy'.

    For fun, it seems that the RS is like being in a gunship firing rockets and oil tankers but for a more reserved looking car, similar performance and upmarket quality, the s3 wins. Not amazingly fun to drive apparantly, though that is a matter of opinion. I havent driven one so!
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