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    OEM Xenon Headlights

    Managed to pick some mint condition ones up off ebay for cheap, is there anything i need to change to fit them to my 2004? I know the headlights are a straight swap but do i need to change any modules or anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smudge_don View Post
    Managed to pick some mint condition ones up off ebay for cheap, is there anything i need to change to fit them to my 2004? I know the headlights are a straight swap but do i need to change any modules or anything?

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    To be legal you also need auto-leveling and headlamp washers.
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    Are they a straight swop? I always thought the connectors were different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h5djr View Post
    To be legal you also need auto-leveling and headlamp washers.
    i thought if the headlights were projector (which i assume they are) then you didnt need the washers

    not sure about the auto leveling...how do you get this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac Hunt View Post
    Are they a straight swop? I always thought the connectors were different.
    looks the same to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by smudge_don View Post
    looks the same to me
    If they are the same then its odd that Kufatec sell an adapter

    http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_i...-8P-Sport.html

    They also do kits to add auto-levelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smudge_don View Post
    i thought if the headlights were projector (which i assume they are) then you didnt need the washers

    not sure about the auto leveling...how do you get this?
    H5djr is right, they need washers & connected to a self leveling system. Right now its just a road traffic offense but they are planning to introduce it into the MOT test too.
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    but... if you get Kufatec's headlights/autolevelling kit, is it a straight swap then? Does it include the ballast? And how are the MOT guys going to know that your headlights didn't come as standard with your car given that 90% of cars out there don't have the washers?

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    I dont believe it will be a straight swap, the wiring will need to be altered too with the inclusion of the new xenon headlight module & altered light switch etc.

    Access to Elsawin would be handy for the wiring diagrams - you can compare the wiring & change accordingly

    ALL cars fitted with xenons when built are fitted with headlight washers (they need to be by law) so if they are missing it will be instant fail.

    As xenon lights auto level/calibrate when swiched on, this will be checked to see the operation functions correctly. I'd also imagine that there will be a check on the light switch to see if it has the ability to alter the hight manually thus also failing.

    My understanding is if your retro fitting xenons then either do it 100% or be prepared to have to swap your old halogen lights back in for its MOT.
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    Can you get away with putting halogen bulbs back in for the MOT, or will they not fit the Xenon casing?

    I thought this would be how projector lights work, with xenon appearance and technology but standard halogen type bulbs?

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    Uh no, given power supply & fitment etc, dont even try as you'll possibly cause damage.

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    I see.

    Big LOL, cause seems the only way to have Xenons is to buy a vehicle with them on, of which there's about 3 round the whole country on autotrader every week. Usually crap spec or high miles too

    Retrofit seems a migrane and a re-mortgage of house to do it legally.

    I called Auto-tec in Northampton last week to ask about retrofit of headlight washers, to which the bloke who answered didn't even know they were a legal requirement with Xenons/Bi-Xenons and didn't want to get involved. I was prepared to spend 1500 upwards too, I genuinely like them that much on my current car. I think that was point I decided to give up on this whole mission, clearly not worth investing time or money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdfcpete View Post
    I see.

    Big LOL, cause seems the only way to have Xenons is to buy a vehicle with them on, of which there's about 3 round the whole country on autotrader every week. Usually crap spec or high miles too

    Retrofit seems a migrane and a re-mortgage of house to do it legally.

    I called Auto-tec in Northampton last week to ask about retrofit of headlight washers, to which the bloke who answered didn't even know they were a legal requirement with Xenons/Bi-Xenons and didn't want to get involved. I was prepared to spend 1500 upwards too, I genuinely like them that much on my current car. I think that was point I decided to give up on this whole mission, clearly not worth investing time or money.
    Don't know what sort of A3 you're looking for but there will soom be one for sale at Huntingdon Audi. It's a 2007 A3 Sportback 2.0TDI-170 SE and it does have OEM Xenon lights. If you do want to know any more let me know as it's my current car that I'm trading-in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdfcpete View Post
    I see.

    Big LOL, cause seems the only way to have Xenons is to buy a vehicle with them on, of which there's about 3 round the whole country on autotrader every week. Usually crap spec or high miles too

    Retrofit seems a migrane and a re-mortgage of house to do it legally.

    I called Auto-tec in Northampton last week to ask about retrofit of headlight washers, to which the bloke who answered didn't even know they were a legal requirement with Xenons/Bi-Xenons and didn't want to get involved. I was prepared to spend 1500 upwards too, I genuinely like them that much on my current car. I think that was point I decided to give up on this whole mission, clearly not worth investing time or money.
    Only way to fit is to buy on a car already, not true & tbh cars with xenons usually have good spec's, I bought my a3 with xenons & had better spec than a poxy sline, but also I upgraded my xenons from single vision xenons to bixenon adaptives, which required number of changes & wiring adaptions & additions, its not easy but who said it would be, but one things for sure, its always worth having them, 100%, wont have car without, I've had xenons on last 3 cars, just so much better than halogens & if you have 1500 upwards for them should ave knocked on my door as I would do it all for yer, no worries.

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    How do you use the Kufatec site??
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    Your post relevance is exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Only way to fit is to buy on a car already, not true & tbh cars with xenons usually have good spec's, I bought my a3 with xenons & had better spec than a poxy sline, but also I upgraded my xenons from single vision xenons to bixenon adaptives, which required number of changes & wiring adaptions & additions, its not easy but who said it would be, but one things for sure, its always worth having them, 100%, wont have car without, I've had xenons on last 3 cars, just so much better than halogens & if you have 1500 upwards for them should ave knocked on my door as I would do it all for yer, no worries.
    You're right cause tbh I shouldv'e mentioned I have a budget of around 12k, Xenon'ed models are usually the 3.2 V6's and the 170 Sport Tdi's which exceed that, both of which are excellent cars, hence the price. I'm probably looking at a 2.0Tdi Sport or a 2.0TFSi, preferably quattro models. There's some out there with sub 50k miles, just never with Xenons.

    If I could throw 2k at someone and get my car back a week later with Xenons + HL washers, I'd be over the moon tbh.
    You're saying you can do the headlamps themselves for a decent price?

    And I agree totally fella, got them currently on my Clio, factory fitted and they're probably the best part on the car, with it being French obviously Hence why I don't want to be without them again.

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    Would have to price things up, but seriously man you could find at least an a3 with headlight washers on that dont have xenons, I have seen them for sure, this would save you money on bumper, pipes, pumps, wiring etc, I'd install for you but really would be a case of price up parts & find some lights aswell, by no means if you want headlight washers & auto levelling then its not cheap but 2k is a fair amount I guess if can find lights cheap, depends on the xenon type single vision or bixenon or bixenon adaptives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Would have to price things up, but seriously man you could find at least an a3 with headlight washers on that dont have xenons, I have seen them for sure, this would save you money on bumper, pipes, pumps, wiring etc, I'd install for you but really would be a case of price up parts & find some lights aswell, by no means if you want headlight washers & auto levelling then its not cheap but 2k is a fair amount I guess if can find lights cheap, depends on the xenon type single vision or bixenon or bixenon adaptives.
    Indeed, been browsing for them with washers too. Is it part of the winter pack like on the Golfs? I think if I was going to, I'd want the Bi-Xenon kit.
    I'm seriously prepared to spend that much really, but that depends on getting a pair off of ebay I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Your post relevance is exactly?


    Was that aimed at me?

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    all fitted yesterday love them, just going to uprate the bulbs to a higher temp colour at some point

    thanks to NHN for his phone support, even if you did laugh at me when i got wet

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    Quote Originally Posted by edition View Post
    Was that aimed at me?
    Yeah not nastily just coudnt understand what the post was for, was it a request for help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smudge_don View Post
    all fitted yesterday love them, just going to uprate the bulbs to a higher temp colour at some point

    thanks to NHN for his phone support, even if you did laugh at me when i got wet
    lol, no worries J, still am laughing but I will take my hat of to you for your technical ingenuity for the torx headed bolts, impressive to say the least, ***** of a job I know but the end defines the means, think thats the phrase I was looking for anyway, lol

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    i have xenons in my car ive got a question if someone can help ps...... nhn .. but not the xenon its self but the other light next to it there a poo colour when i have daytime running on in the day they just look naf i want some white bulbs that look a bit like the xenons so they look more modern can anyone recomend some bulbs and are they easy to fit how much are they etc.......
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    I think you will some details of bulbs that others members have purchased as part of a group buy at this loacation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10blazin View Post
    i have xenons in my car ive got a question if someone can help ps...... nhn .. but not the xenon its self but the other light next to it there a poo colour when i have daytime running on in the day they just look naf i want some white bulbs that look a bit like the xenons so they look more modern can anyone recomend some bulbs and are they easy to fit how much are they etc.......
    a few on RS246 are fitting LED's, I believe its fairly easy to do
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    Thanks for that dave they look much better on that thread gona look into getting a set........


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    I think you will some details of bulbs that others members have purchased as part of a group buy at this loacation...

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    WHATS RS26 PAL and what do the leds look like ???
    do you have a link please mate ......


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    a few on RS246 are fitting LED's, I believe its fairly easy to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10blazin View Post
    WHATS RS26 PAL and what do the leds look like ???
    do you have a link please mate ......
    Try this: http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=...hlight=led+drl
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    thanks for that mate..............

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    What about some projector headlamps that don't have the damn angel eyes or halos on?

    Can only find them with the angels/halos on and they'd look ridiculous on anything other than a BMW. Is there a method to wire them in so they don't have the angel eye sidelights, but just the dipped beam projector lamps illuminated?

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    For me it would be a no, but each to there own

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    Hmmm indeed, I understand they're nowhere near the quality of genuine Audi Part Bi-Xenons, but just thinking outside the box for an alternative really.

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    TBH I wouldnt consider them an alternative & given mot tests, would the sphere's cause issues then aswell, I mean they're what 200 anyway without any xenon facility, so extra money aswell, all adds up & when done would be near the xenon headlight costs, 2nd user of course.

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    Ok, thanks for the info.

    So start to finish, could be done for 2000?
    How long is the car required for, 3 days at least I'd imagine?

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    depends on if we can get the headlights for good price & what type you want. also bumper etc etc.

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    In essence; Bi-Xenons, straight forward washers and 05/06 S-Line bumper - Feasible?

    Was thinking if I just purchased a Quattro TDi with Xenons, could fit the S-Line kit with bits I find on ebay/salvage/the forum once painted, obviously provided the front bumper has the gaps for HLW.

    I would hope 2k would more than cover that?

 

 
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