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    Dealers Reaction to Lowered S3

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    Dropped the car off tonight at Macc Audi for a few rattle/creak issues.

    I asked one of the technicians to come out to have a listen to the stereo as the rattle occurs when the bass kicks in on a certain song.

    When he approached the car the first thing he said to me is 'Has that been lowered' and I obviously had to admit that it had, as it is blatantly obvious.

    Will dealers have an issue with lowered cars with the warranty??

    I presume if there is a suspension issue under warranty that they would refuse to do any works to the car???

    Any one else had these looks from technicians at dealers whilst taking a 'Non standard' car for work to be done??

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    I doubt you will get anywhere with rattles and creaks if its lowered. They wil just say the new suspension is to blame.
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    Mmm will have to see what they say, Macc audi are usually very good, if they kick up a fuss i'll just take it somewhere else.
    Phantom Black S3, DSG, Buckets, Satnav, Bose, Bluetooth Prep, Heated Seats, Interior Light pack, Highbeam Assist, parking sensors. Done: Lowered H&R Springs, Spacers, Full Miltek Turbo Back, HPFP - Next on list: Evoms, Forge Re-circ Valve, REVO Stage 2+ and REVO DSG Software when available! - Then, no doubt Uprated brakes will be needed, (Better get saving)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandle View Post
    I doubt you will get anywhere with rattles and creaks if its lowered. They wil just say the new suspension is to blame.
    Not if the car is static! thte rattles are already there it's the base on the system that brings them to the fore?

    I would like to think that everything other than suspension/cv-boot issues would be coverd?

    I'm getting mine lowerd this week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post

    I'm getting mine lowerd this week!

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    Who is doing it mate?
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    U gettin springs p? after slating me about lowering in another thread or is that just coilovers?

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    BillyBravo ( AKA Craig ) off the A4 section he runs a brach of TopGear round the corner fron us in Bredbury, him and his mate Andy are good lads , any mod type jobs there your men!

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8KOW View Post
    U gettin springs p? after slating me about lowering in another thread or is that just coilovers?
    Just the coilovers!

    I'd love to be able to spend 1500 on a decent set and set up , but ATM untill my shocks/dampers need replacing i'll stick with the OEM stuff, and a cheap-ish set of springs.

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    Last edited by phantom; 7th April 2008 at 20:58.

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    And they'll probably be asking me if the engine is standard when I go back, as they WILL have taken it out for a road test!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    Not if the car is static! thte rattles are already there it's the base on the system that brings them to the fore?
    IMO that wouldnt matter they could argue the new lowered suspension has caused something to loosen up as it isnt the Audi approved suspension anymore, the bass is just showing up the fault after.
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    To be fair I'd be surprised if they did say something. With warranty work, they claim the cost of the work back from Audi, so it is really in their best interests!
    Also, if I'm reading correctly, it's an issue with a vibration as a result of base from the stereo yeah?? So nothing to do with the suspension - unless it only came after your suspension was fitted - in which case it could be as a result of the dampers coming out (I'm not sure if the panel where the bass speaker is is removed to remove the rear damper).

    If they do refuse as a result of the suspension, I'd ask them to prove that this issue is a result of the suspension change to your car?

    It's always dodgy with warranty stuff, you have the right frame of mind though, if they refuse, go to another dealer who is more understanding.

    Good luck.

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    Cheers Jamie

    I'll be getting the call today to let me know what they have done, if anything.

    I'll report back to the forum later, at least then we will know which dealers are arsey about mods and which are not..

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    Nice one Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    BillyBravo ( AKA Craig ) off the A4 section he runs a brach of TopGear round the corner fron us in Bredbury, him and his mate Andy are good lads , any mod type jobs there your men!

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    I'm going to see craig tomorrow hes doing my exhaust tips at topgear in stockport

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8KOW View Post
    I'm going to see craig tomorrow hes doing my exhaust tips at topgear in stockport
    I'm booked in for the afternoon to get it lowerd, may see you there?

    Ive got me spacers and locking wheel nuts , but theres been a mix up with the longer bolts that ive orderd so i can't have my spacers on at the same time!

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    I'll probably been gone as I'm booked in for 10am, are you having springs? What spacers did you go for??

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8KOW View Post
    I'll probably been gone as I'm booked in for 10am, are you having springs? What spacers did you go for??
    I'm there at 12.00 , H&R springs ( 25mill max ) H&R 10 mill spacers all four corners!

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    Will have to see yours phantom with the 10mm on the front, I only opted for the rear at the time.

    Let me know when you get em fitted
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    Quote Originally Posted by L33TAY View Post
    Will have to see yours phantom with the 10mm on the front, I only opted for the rear at the time.

    Let me know when you get em fitted
    From what ive seen , if your spacing, all four corners need them , if your being picky slighty larger ones on the back , but the front deffo needs them too?

    Lee even on the pic of your car the back looks spot on , but the front sits IN the arch, IMHO needs spacing also!

    How did you get on at the dealers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    From what ive seen , if your spacing, all four corners need them , if your being picky slighty larger ones on the back , but the front deffo needs them too?

    Lee even on the pic of your car the back looks spot on , but the front sits IN the arch, IMHO needs spacing also!

    How did you get on at the dealers?

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    Hot heard anything from them yet!

    As regard to spacers, I would have liked to put 5mm each side on the front, not sure you can get 5mm hubcentric ones tho?? unless anyone knows otherwise??
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    I don't think so , maybe swap your backs to the front , and get 12mil for the back?

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    I think this is lower than your/mine will be , he has no spacers on , in one of the pics you can see it's crying out for some at the front? IMHO

    MY STEALTH , NEW (S3 WOW), PICSSS,

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    Mmm true yes.

    15's on the rear and 10 on the front would be perfect, however, 15's deffo give you rubbing issues if the car is lowered.

    Do H&R do 12mm spacers??
    Phantom Black S3, DSG, Buckets, Satnav, Bose, Bluetooth Prep, Heated Seats, Interior Light pack, Highbeam Assist, parking sensors. Done: Lowered H&R Springs, Spacers, Full Miltek Turbo Back, HPFP - Next on list: Evoms, Forge Re-circ Valve, REVO Stage 2+ and REVO DSG Software when available! - Then, no doubt Uprated brakes will be needed, (Better get saving)

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    H&R do do 12mm

    http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...product=495486

    So

    May put the 10's now on the rear on the front, and order 12mm for the rear.
    Phantom Black S3, DSG, Buckets, Satnav, Bose, Bluetooth Prep, Heated Seats, Interior Light pack, Highbeam Assist, parking sensors. Done: Lowered H&R Springs, Spacers, Full Miltek Turbo Back, HPFP - Next on list: Evoms, Forge Re-circ Valve, REVO Stage 2+ and REVO DSG Software when available! - Then, no doubt Uprated brakes will be needed, (Better get saving)

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    Quote Originally Posted by L33TAY View Post
    Mmm true yes.

    15's on the rear and 10 on the front would be perfect, however, 15's deffo give you rubbing issues if the car is lowered.

    Do H&R do 12mm spacers??
    I read on here think it was JamS3 got some 12's from somewhere?

    Give DPN a bell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    I'm there at 12.00 , H&R springs ( 25mill max ) H&R 10 mill spacers all four corners!

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    Big P, thanks for that, how comes your lowering then? I don't think I'll need spacers with ET45, but time will tell, might see you there! My S3 bumper has arrived now......WOOOO HOOOOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by L33TAY View Post
    H&R do do 12mm

    http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...product=495486

    So

    May put the 10's now on the rear on the front, and order 12mm for the rear.
    Go for it mate! Craig at TopGear will fit em for you if you don't fancy it yourself?

    He'll only charge you a couple of quid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom View Post
    Go for it mate! Craig at TopGear will fit em for you if you don't fancy it yourself?

    He'll only charge you a couple of quid!

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    Nice one, when I get em i'll give you a bell for his details if thats OK?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by L33TAY View Post
    Nice one, when I get em i'll give you a bell for his details if thats OK?

    Cheers

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    No sweat , how was the dealer?

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    Still not got it mate

    Hopefully get a call at some point tomorrow, they said they may need it for 2 days as the rattles etc are hard to pinpoint, and a test drive will be required each time.

    I'll let you know what they say, if they are fine it may be worth you taking yours there for any issues you have in the future.

    They were great with me with my last A3 2.0T.

    Phantom Black S3, DSG, Buckets, Satnav, Bose, Bluetooth Prep, Heated Seats, Interior Light pack, Highbeam Assist, parking sensors. Done: Lowered H&R Springs, Spacers, Full Miltek Turbo Back, HPFP - Next on list: Evoms, Forge Re-circ Valve, REVO Stage 2+ and REVO DSG Software when available! - Then, no doubt Uprated brakes will be needed, (Better get saving)

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    Quote Originally Posted by L33TAY View Post
    Still not got it mate

    Hopefully get a call at some point tomorrow, they said they may need it for 2 days as the rattles etc are hard to pinpoint, and a test drive will be required each time.

    I'll let you know what they say, if they are fine it may be worth you taking yours there for any issues you have in the future.

    They were great with me with my last A3 2.0T.

    Did that have mod's?

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    No, that one was completely standard, so I have made up for it on the S3!!!

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    It sounds like they are doing all the work for you then Lee! Glad to hear it.
    Fingers crossed they source the problem and cure it!

    Phantom - I'll be really interested to hear how your car feels on the H&R springs and spacers. Considered this myself as I'm not a fan of the cost of coil-overs regardless of the superiority of a proper set up.... it's just to much of an outlay for something that I would appreciate for 5% of the time I own the car!!!

    I'll be particularly interested to hear how it copes with speed humps etc and what the cruising ride is like round town and on motorways!

    Keep us posted mate!

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    Lee's had hes on since day one LOL

    Springs will be on tommorrow, spacers later in the week.

    Your right IMHO coilovers are better , but unless your a track fiend your never gonna take the car to where coilovers will improve over uprated springs! and the cost??? i can't justify it ATM , in future maybe.

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    Coilovers give you the adjustability of getting your car sat at the perfect height, and with the added bonus of being to adjust the damping settings! I used to think the same i.e. track until I got educated.

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    ^^^^Your right mate , but it all boils down to monies and for me ATM 1200-1400 for a decent set and proper set up is more than i want/can spend.

    I can get the best springs for my car fitted for 280 or so, they maybe a couple of mill from perfect ride hight , but for the cost i can live with it!

    If i was a track day animal, coilovers would be my first mod.....not for looks ,but for performance!

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    I agree with you Phantom! For 1200-1400 I'd have to do a lot of 'spirited' driving to justify!!

    Lee - as you already have the H&R springs do you have some before & after shots and can you give a report on how you find the ride etc???

    Cheers

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    Fair enough p.

 

 

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