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    Suspected gearbox problem - 1.6 tiptronic

    Hi all,

    Wondering if you could help out. I am wondering is my gearbox has a problem. Here's why:

    - when I change gears from P to D, relatively quickly, there's delay in engagement and a clunk sound when engaging (didn't happen with any of my previous cars), or if I change from R to D, same thing. If I change slowly, it seems to engage a lot quieter but still a slight delay
    - when I am driving on the highway, in 6th gear, and accelerate quickly after slowing down, there's a jerk from the gears changing (6th to 4th), this hasn't only happened once. I've noticed it happening more often now and wondering what's going on.

    I've reading other articles that some of those symptoms mean it's a bad gearbox and needs to be fixed etc.

    Anyone heard or experienced these things?

    Thanks in advance.

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    'Clunking' was part and parcel of my DSG (now called s-tronic) experience.
    Hard to comment on yours specifically though.
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    Thanks Bowfer, I am hoping that nothing's wrong, my car's only got 24000km's on the clock!

    From my experience, no other car has done this. This is my first "tiptronic" though.

    Even with that in mind, I am sure it can't be any different from a normal auto tranny.

    Does anyone have experience of fault codes showing up when there's something wrong with the gearbox?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsumoto View Post

    Even with that in mind, I am sure it can't be any different from a normal auto tranny.
    The way it's built and works is vastly different from a normal auto box.
    I became convinced, quite early on, that my DSG was strange.
    However, driving other DSG cars proved it wasn't.
    You will, at some point, get some 'clunking', simple as that.
    I used to get occasional clunking when changing from 2nd to 3rd.
    I used to get clunking when trying to pull away on a steep hill.
    I used to get clunking when going from reverse to forward.
    When I say 'clunking' I mean some quite unpleasant driveline shunt, occasionally accompanied with a loud(ish) bang.
    Unpleasant enough for passengers to go "ouch", or make comment about my driving, when all I was doing was pressing the bloody throttle!
    DSG did, sometimes, make you look like a learner with poor clutch control.
    Not all the time though.
    If yours is doing it all the time, get it checked.
    If it's only occasional, I'd say you're fine.
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    From the things that you have described, my experiences seem pretty similar. Good to hear that someone has had similar "problems". I'll keep my eyes and ears open for any further "developments". Let's hope it's all nothing but paranoia!

    Thanks for the info Bowfer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsumoto View Post
    Good to hear that someone has had similar "problems".
    Ssssh, you're not allowed to call them 'problems' on here.
    It's you not adapting your driving properly.
    I'll get me coat.
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    haha, right on! that's exactly what the stealers would say! it's your fault, not ours!

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    I've had issues with my DSG in the past, which may or may not have been caused by my driving style, but ultimately needed a new ECU to fix (done under warranty at 55k miles).

    As Bowfer says, DSG is a totally different type of 'box to a traditional auto. DSG has two clutches whilst regular autos have no clutch but a torque converter instead.

    The 'Audi approved' way to drive the DSG seems to be to have it in some kind of gear (D,S or Tiptronic) pretty much all the time, except when you are stationary and want to take your foot of the brake. If you stick to that approach it should snatch a lot less...

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbm View Post
    The 'Audi approved' way to drive the DSG seems to be to have it in some kind of gear (D,S or Tiptronic) pretty much all the time, except when you are stationary and want to take your foot of the brake. If you stick to that approach it should snatch a lot less...
    Sorry, but I don't follow the above.
    How else are you going to drive it, unless it's in D,S or tiptronic?
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    I used to knock the box into N when cruising to a stop at lights for example, and would flick between N and D if I was in stop-start traffic. Both of these behaviors seemed to exacerbate the problem.

    Cheers,
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    hmm, I guess I drive the Audi approved way then. I used to think (my old car) by setting it to N while cruising would save gas, until I read that it actually doesn't because the engine then has to use more gas to keep it running....gotta try find that article again

    But also, mines not a DSG, it's a tiptronic....any differences?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsumoto View Post

    But also, mines not a DSG, it's a tiptronic....any differences?
    Oh, I assumed you meant S-tronic, which was called DSG.
    I think tiptronic is different.

    God knows.
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    cheers to that! all the labels and probably the only differences are the colors of the cables....

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    Yeh, a bit like fridges and cookers really - they both use electricity, so they're probably much the same......
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