Spin140
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I sent a mail to the guy in the states that I communicated with prior to settling on GIAC for my remap last month to try and put to rest some of the fears expressed by myself and other members concerning the latest 'Hammer' map which has been released for the S3 8P.
The contact is Austin Wyly and can be contacted via their website, or on the e-mail address below (no spam please) response can take a couple of days due to time differences but all questions are answered in laymans terms.
Austin Wyly <Austin@giacusa.com>
My interpretation of his reply is that on a healthy car (which all should be) the 330 map is intended for use with no additional hardware changes so if going down the Miltek route the standard 310bhp would suffice.
My enquiry mail....
Hi Austin,
sorry to bother you again but hopefully you can provide some more info.
I am hearing about a 'new' Hammer map that is now available for my S3 which promises even greater performance gains.
Some have approximated the new output to be 330bhp with no hardware changes required as opposed to @ 310bhp on my own map.
I am considering updating to this newer version but after some research I have some reservations as their is some concern regarding the cars standard fuel pump and reportedly it can struggle to supply enough fuel beyond 320bhp, Revo recommend an upgrade.
I am happy the other components will be fine on my car as I treat it with respect and always warm up etc before having any fun and the car is for fast road use only.
I plan to add a Carbonio Intake and upgraded panel filter purely for aesthetics and then update to the new Hammer map, at this moment in time I have no plans to upgrade the standard exhaust system, in the opinion of GIAC will this be as reliable and component friendly as the 310 map already purchased.......
Thanks
Martin
His response....
Hi Martin,
It is possible to hit fuel cut with certain hardware additions in addition to the hammer file. However, I should note that maximum horsepower output is not very pertinent to fuel cut issues as that generally occurs at or around peak torque when the boost spikes to its highest. With the addition of a catless and/or larger exhaust (76mm+) peak boost will be higher with our software and this could result in the fuel cut that others have been referring to. Turbulent intakes can also cause the ECU to misinterpret load and request more boost as well. We do aspire to have the greatest amount of power under the curve possible and are well aware of the fueling limits of the 2.0T FSI engines. We take that into consideration when creating a save a reliable fueling curve. While differing states of health in cars might produce different results, a healthy car should run perfectly fine with the hammer file. I would recommend trying out the file on your car and experiencing it for yourself as speculation only goes so far and that seems to be what is happening aside from the owners of the file who are happy with it (in reference to your thread). In terms of too much power, the S3 has stronger internals than a conventional 2.0T and can handle the power output of our software without issue.
Best Regards,
Austin..../
The standard 310bhp map offers more than enough performance with absoultely zero issues to date, the car is smooth and powers all through the rev range with immense accelaration, no hesitations or 'peaky' power, as I'm not planning a Miltek upgarde anytime soon I will try out the hammer map as soon as I get opportunity to visit Statller but in the meantime as I said the GIAC standard map will be more than enough for most - guess I'm just greedy
The contact is Austin Wyly and can be contacted via their website, or on the e-mail address below (no spam please) response can take a couple of days due to time differences but all questions are answered in laymans terms.
Austin Wyly <Austin@giacusa.com>
My interpretation of his reply is that on a healthy car (which all should be) the 330 map is intended for use with no additional hardware changes so if going down the Miltek route the standard 310bhp would suffice.
My enquiry mail....
Hi Austin,
sorry to bother you again but hopefully you can provide some more info.
I am hearing about a 'new' Hammer map that is now available for my S3 which promises even greater performance gains.
Some have approximated the new output to be 330bhp with no hardware changes required as opposed to @ 310bhp on my own map.
I am considering updating to this newer version but after some research I have some reservations as their is some concern regarding the cars standard fuel pump and reportedly it can struggle to supply enough fuel beyond 320bhp, Revo recommend an upgrade.
I am happy the other components will be fine on my car as I treat it with respect and always warm up etc before having any fun and the car is for fast road use only.
I plan to add a Carbonio Intake and upgraded panel filter purely for aesthetics and then update to the new Hammer map, at this moment in time I have no plans to upgrade the standard exhaust system, in the opinion of GIAC will this be as reliable and component friendly as the 310 map already purchased.......
Thanks
Martin
His response....
Hi Martin,
It is possible to hit fuel cut with certain hardware additions in addition to the hammer file. However, I should note that maximum horsepower output is not very pertinent to fuel cut issues as that generally occurs at or around peak torque when the boost spikes to its highest. With the addition of a catless and/or larger exhaust (76mm+) peak boost will be higher with our software and this could result in the fuel cut that others have been referring to. Turbulent intakes can also cause the ECU to misinterpret load and request more boost as well. We do aspire to have the greatest amount of power under the curve possible and are well aware of the fueling limits of the 2.0T FSI engines. We take that into consideration when creating a save a reliable fueling curve. While differing states of health in cars might produce different results, a healthy car should run perfectly fine with the hammer file. I would recommend trying out the file on your car and experiencing it for yourself as speculation only goes so far and that seems to be what is happening aside from the owners of the file who are happy with it (in reference to your thread). In terms of too much power, the S3 has stronger internals than a conventional 2.0T and can handle the power output of our software without issue.
Best Regards,
Austin..../
The standard 310bhp map offers more than enough performance with absoultely zero issues to date, the car is smooth and powers all through the rev range with immense accelaration, no hesitations or 'peaky' power, as I'm not planning a Miltek upgarde anytime soon I will try out the hammer map as soon as I get opportunity to visit Statller but in the meantime as I said the GIAC standard map will be more than enough for most - guess I'm just greedy