Thread: S3 - GIAC Remap Review

[quote=revomike]

Originally Posted by warrencox

That was the first time we played with your car, Its making better power than that none.....

It is!! So much I've been getting a bit of clutch slip on the coldest days. Its absolutely flying when the air is this cold and dense.

The new settings have been really successful Mike.



Warren

clutch slip turn it down a wee bit lol...

Glad ur happy !

Originally Posted by revomike

clutch slip turn it down a wee bit lol...

Glad ur happy !

It's in for 1st service on Wednesday next week so i'll get them to check all is OK with it. I'd rather they sort the rattle in the centre console and the squealing front brakes as they drive me mad constantly!

Then its off for a new set of front boots.

Apologies - off topic

Any updates on this remap ? Any ture figures ? Anything gone wrong ? What affect has it had on mpg ?


Many thanks

S3 has ran faultlessly on the GIAC remap from day one, mpg has dropped by no more than 1/2 mpg and on occasion has improved due to additional torque and early gear changes. I had a mad moment last week and accelarated hard uphill on a motorway slip road, by the time I joined the motorway the car was bouncing off the rev limiter in 3rd at 115mph !! It is seriously quick and great fun. Wether the maps actually produce the claimed figures should remain irrelevant and the proof is in the additional performance over stock.
The Map makes the S3 such a quick car by all standards with brakes and standard chasis being perfectly up to the job IMO.

I've just sold the S3 for no reason other than I fancied a change, I doubt I will own such a fast/practical and capable car again but if I did I would go down exactly the same route again with GIAC etc.

I put the car back to standard upon PX and now have a few bits for sale..

GIAC Flashloader/switching device
A3 Genuine Audi Dog Guard (used once, immaculate)
Full set of Winter Mats (excellent condition)..
BBS 20 Spoke 18" Calitos with GSD III F1 Directional. (@ 600 miles only - as new)


PM me if interested

unless you've had a new gearbox or diff , the car wont do 115mph in 3rd.

4th maybe, but not 3rd.

Originally Posted by Spin140

S3 has ran faultlessly on the GIAC remap from day one, mpg has dropped by no more than 1/2 mpg and on occasion has improved due to additional torque and early gear changes. I had a mad moment last week and accelarated hard uphill on a motorway slip road, by the time I joined the motorway the car was bouncing off the rev limiter in 3rd at 115mph !! It is seriously quick and great fun. Wether the maps actually produce the claimed figures should remain irrelevant and the proof is in the additional performance over stock.
The Map makes the S3 such a quick car by all standards with brakes and standard chasis being perfectly up to the job IMO.

I've just sold the S3 for no reason other than I fancied a change, I doubt I will own such a fast/practical and capable car again but if I did I would go down exactly the same route again with GIAC etc.

I put the car back to standard upon PX and now have a few bits for sale..

GIAC Flashloader/switching device
A3 Genuine Audi Dog Guard (used once, immaculate)
Full set of Winter Mats (excellent condition)..
BBS 20 Spoke 18" Calitos with GSD III F1 Directional. (@ 600 miles only - as new)


PM me if interested

What car have you chopped it in for mate?

TT-S would be my guess........

Originally Posted by daviscup

TT-S would be my guess........

TT-S on order eta late 2008.

S3 Px'ed against a high specced ex demo 2.0t TT in black with 19" RS4, I did this for 2 reasons, to limit the depreciation hit/potential CTC plus to see if I could live with the reduced dimensions offered by the TT without first handing over + £10k.

First impressions are very good and the extra driver input required from a 200bhp FWD is keeping me amused, I'd forgotten what traction control lights looked like with the S3 being so capable.

My favourite thing so far is the exhaust note which is very different to the S3 and quite 'raspy'.

Noone has asked me for a cut and blow dry yet but give them time

TT-S
Nice one

I went from a TT 2.0 T to S3 and they are very diffrent to drive i think. I had a stage 2 remap and struggled hard with traction. But when you get the power down it was a very fast car.
I agree with the exhaust note. The TT has i bit more aggressive sound. Change to a Milltek and it will sound even better

Originally Posted by Cartén

I went from a TT 2.0 T to S3 and they are very diffrent to drive i think. I had a stage 2 remap and struggled hard with traction. But when you get the power down it was a very fast car.
I agree with the exhaust note. The TT has i bit more aggressive sound. Change to a Milltek and it will sound even better

Sounds like Fun

Originally Posted by Spin140

Try this for now and I'll take a look for the original thread later, hopefully isolated incidents..

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/thread/1050786.aspx

This was me, (Ive a different ID on uk-mkivs). I was running REVO Phase 1, with Fuel=9, Timing=6, Boost=7 which arent wacky settings although the boost was a little up.
The power delivery was pretty savage but great depending on your taste. I personally like the aggressive power delivery you get from REVO maps.

Anyway the clutch slipped within minutes of the remap on the first test drive which turned out to be a ruined DMF.
I genuinely believe the car was running a defective DMF and the extra torque being produced by the remap just `found out` the weakness.

After the car was fixed, I ran it for another 4K miles on the brand new DMF and clutch completely trouble free until I sold it for my S3.

At the time I did a lot of digging around and instances of remaps causing premature DMF/clutch failure on the 20T FSI cars were unheard of.

For the record VW did the lot under warranty WITH the map still installed. They didnt ask so I didnt tell them! They also ran some diagnostics and appeared to find nothing ??

So, on this, as basis if my Golf was running around 290 lbs/ft I would say the S3 with around 320 lb/ft with its much stronger drive, should be ok.

And worst comes to the worst, take to AUDI, play dumb, get it done under warranty, switch back to std and put it down to experience.

Ive been trying to hold off getting a remap and this thread isnt helping at all!
Based on the nearest GIAC agent being a 3 hr drive Im tempted by the Blufin conversion this time around as the SPS controllers are pricey expecially when you are already giving REVO £600 for the map.
Have had excellent experience with REVO though in the past, its just a little bit steep IMO.

Cheers
Paul

Originally Posted by PaulAr

This was me, (Ive a different ID on uk-mkivs). I was running REVO Phase 1, with Fuel=9, Timing=6, Boost=7 which arent wacky settings although the boost was a little up.
The power delivery was pretty savage but great depending on your taste. I personally like the aggressive power delivery you get from REVO maps.

Anyway the clutch slipped within minutes of the remap on the first test drive which turned out to be a ruined DMF.
I genuinely believe the car was running a defective DMF and the extra torque being produced by the remap just `found out` the weakness.

After the car was fixed, I ran it for another 4K miles on the brand new DMF and clutch completely trouble free until I sold it for my S3.

At the time I did a lot of digging around and instances of remaps causing premature DMF/clutch failure on the 20T FSI cars were unheard of.

For the record VW did the lot under warranty WITH the map still installed. They didnt ask so I didnt tell them! They also ran some diagnostics and appeared to find nothing ??

So, on this, as basis if my Golf was running around 290 lbs/ft I would say the S3 with around 320 lb/ft with its much stronger drive, should be ok.

And worst comes to the worst, take to AUDI, play dumb, get it done under warranty, switch back to std and put it down to experience.

Ive been trying to hold off getting a remap and this thread isnt helping at all!
Based on the nearest GIAC agent being a 3 hr drive Im tempted by the Blufin conversion this time around as the SPS controllers are pricey expecially when you are already giving REVO £600 for the map.
Have had excellent experience with REVO though in the past, its just a little bit steep IMO.

Cheers
Paul

I opted for the Bluefin and at £450 I think it is a bargin. Power delivery is instant and can be agressive too when you get used to driving it differently to get the best out of it. Turbo lag is almost non existant and it is urging to go all the time. Launching it is far easier without so much bog down and with a little practice a fast launch can be done with very little clutch abuse and at 3000 rpm instead of 4000 rpm.

Cheers.

Does the £450 include the Handset? and can you flash between Bluefin and stock maps?

Can you play with the boost/fuel/timing settings too?

Does Bluefin affect the ECU `flash counter`or has none of the tuning guys managed that yet?

Thanks
Paul

Originally Posted by PaulAr

Cheers.

Can you play with the boost/fuel/timing settings too?

Thanks
Paul

I think Revo select plus switch is the only one that lets you change settings.

p

Thanks guys.

Really like the idea if being able to switch between maps without having to visit a Superchips dealer.

I never bothered with the REVO SPS switch as once I had the REVO agent set my car how I wanted, I had no intentions on changing it anyway.

Do you have any input on how your car is set up with Bluefin? or is it a `fixed`setting generic map?

cheers
Paul

Originally Posted by PaulAr

Thanks guys.

Really like the idea if being able to switch between maps without having to visit a Superchips dealer.

I never bothered with the REVO SPS switch as once I had the REVO agent set my car how I wanted, I had no intentions on changing it anyway.

Do you have any input on how your car is set up with Bluefin? or is it a `fixed`setting generic map?

cheers
Paul

The maps offered by superchips/bluefin are generic but thay have many to choose from with some offering a little more than others dependant on the customers request.

If location is convenient I would always suggest visiting their HQ in Bucks (MK18) as they will do a before and after dyno so you can actuate your gains plus you would have the option of discussing the various generic maps.

You also get a 30,000 mile or 12 month warranty underwritten by firebond that is extendable year on year for little cost.


Having said that the convenience of the plug and play offered by utilising your PC and postage is very popular.

I'm paying Jamie at superchips a visit on Friday and letting them try some new software on my car with some dyno time booked so if you have any specific questions let me know via PM.

Spin

Originally Posted by PaulAr

Ive been trying to hold off getting a remap and this thread isnt helping at all!
Based on the nearest GIAC agent being a 3 hr drive Im tempted by the Blufin conversion this time around as the SPS controllers are pricey expecially when you are already giving REVO £600 for the map.
Have had excellent experience with REVO though in the past, its just a little bit steep IMO.

Cheers
Paul

If you wave cash at some Revo dealers they may only take £500 from you.
Keep an eye out for a select plus on eBay, there have been a few on recently for around £100 to £130.

Originally Posted by JohnS3

If you wave cash at some Revo dealers they may only take £500 from you.
Keep an eye out for a select plus on eBay, there have been a few on recently for around £100 to £130.

Words right out of my mouth...
I bought my Select switch of Ebay too.. My ED30 is booked in for next week for it's Revo map. Getting it done for £500 all in..

Tried this with my REVO guy but he wouldnt go for it, ended up paying £590 or so.
Even if I could get a cash deal and an SPS for £100 it still would stand me £150 more than the Bluefin route at £450 and Ive yet to hear bad press for Bluefin

That said, Ive had excellent experience with REVO and the aftesales is first rate.
Mmmmmm...

cheers
Paul

The Revo is adjustable...... But don't buy an SPS, they don't work on CAN based (Golf V based) cars, you need a select plus.

Had my S3 remapped by Statller in Sheffield on Friday. Opted for the GIAC 'Hammer' map based upon what I had read on the forum; in a nutshell Bluefin seems to be difficult to tell that the car has been remapped, REVO is very boosty and GIAC is more progressive (stupid map name though!).

Steve Jnr did the car - I got there just as he was wheeling out 4 Porsche 911's from his unit, so once he had done that, he made me a cup of tea and we had a natter about stuff and then he got down to business.

It took about 45 minutes to map the car - whilst he was doing the car, I had a wander around the forecourt (used to be a petrol station) and admired the 911's and also a 360 spyder that was in for a service.

Once the car had been done, we went for a short blast so that Steve could confirm that he was happy with the remap and that there weren't any issues. First time I had sat in the passenger seat of my car! Everything was OK, so he pulled over and let me have a blast. We were in a built up area, so it was difficult to give it max beans, but it definately felt quicker - more urge when accelerating from 3000 revs upwards and it was smooth too - no lumps and bumps. We did a couple of laps of his test circuit and all was well, so I paid my money and off I went to play myself.

Drove back down the M1 and I think it was money well spent! As a few people have already said, it's not going to be a huge boot in the back, but you definately notice the fact that the car is more willing to accelerate and is quicker to pickup from low revs.

I would thoroughly recommend anyone to get a GIAC map - this is the first car that I've had remapped, although I've had all of my bikes in the last 6 years remapped and it is definately worth doing. I would also highly recommend Steve Jnr at Statller. He's very knowledgeable - he knows his VAG engines inside out and he's very friendly too.

Nice one Nick knew you'd be pleased with the results.