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    Retrofitting a MFSW S-Line

    I picked up my S-Line the other day, and was hugely dissapointed to find that you cant use the bluetooth properly without a MFSW. The car I brought is a year old so I didnt get to choose the spec, as I would have wanted this!

    I was wondering if you guys would know an Audi Specialist in the Guildford area that could retrofit a Sline MFSW, and whatever else I need to get the full functionality from the bluetooth, and my stereo.

    The car literally has every spec option, except the one I'd consider the most important!

    Thanks in advance

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    Its a relatively simple retro-fit, you might also need a new steering wheel ECU and slip ring as well as the MFSW (which wont be cheap!)

    Airbag should be the same as long as your not fitting the flat-bottomed wheel, You'll also need access VAG-COM to recode the car.

    Job should take you just an hour or two at the most, I retro-fitted cruise to mine which obv involves removing the MFSW and that took about 45 minutes. HTH
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    I retrofitted the MFSW to mine and it was straight forward although I did need a new airbag as the fixing arrangement on the back was different.
    I didn't need a new steering wheel ECU, maybe this was down to already having paddles on the steering wheel?
    You will also need it recoding at the dealers or by somebody with CAN compatible vag com though

    Definately recommend it , although I believe it should of been standard equipment on what is already an expensive car!
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    "I believe it should of been standard equipment on what is already an expensive car!"

    Tell me about it! I really not comfortable doing this job myself, I dont have anything to recode VAG, and Im the type of person who would fit this together, and end up with some parts left over!

    I might give the Audi garage a call, how much do you think the parts alone would cost? 400-500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenAFC
    "I believe it should of been standard equipment on what is already an expensive car!"

    Tell me about it! I really not comfortable doing this job myself, I dont have anything to recode VAG, and Im the type of person who would fit this together, and end up with some parts left over!

    I might give the Audi garage a call, how much do you think the parts alone would cost? 400-500?
    well my dealer wanted close on 2k for the full job including parts, needless to say I haven't bothered and like you I don't fancy doing it myself. Must be an opportunity for someone out there, happily pay sensible money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearcew
    Thanks, Ill give them a call lunchtime as their email doesnt work


    Update - They emailed back, and the dont do it!
    Last edited by StevenAFC; 1st October 2007 at 11:59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianM
    well my dealer wanted close on 2k for the full job including parts, needless to say I haven't bothered and like you I don't fancy doing it myself. Must be an opportunity for someone out there, happily pay sensible money?
    Wow 2k for a MFSW.

    Parts are about 380+vat and about an hour to fit and recode the car.

    The only additional thing some may need is the steering wheel control module. If you have cruise already then you have this but otherwise it is about another 80.

    any competent DIYer or garage should be able to fit the wheel then it's just a matter of finding someone with VAG-COM to do the coding bit.

    Ha Ha 2,000, you've got to give them credit for trying I suppose !
    I'm an optimist but I don't think it helps much.

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    Ive got a flappy paddle gearbox, dunno if that means ive got the steering wheel control module.

    If I brought all the parts from Audi-Accessories (when its back up), maybe I could find somebody to fit it. Would this effect the warrenty?

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    No shouldn't make any difference to warranty (unless it was a fault related to the MSFW). The control module isn't specific to DSG (mine is DSG). I think if you have Cruise control or Factory fitted RNS-e then you should have it. My car didn't but I retrofitted Cruise Control first and changed the module then. It is easy enough to check the part number of your current module if you have VAG-COM.
    I'm an optimist but I don't think it helps much.

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    I had cruise retrofitted at the dealers when I bought my car. They didn't need the steering wheel ECU as it was already there.
    When I did my steering wheel apart from the airbag issue, it was a 10 minute Job to change and that's with a tea break in between.
    I just then put up a vagcom request and dropped someone some beer tokens for their trouble!
    All in it cost me about 70 , I even made 20 on the airbag swap

    Just get stuck in and do it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3.2 Ju
    All in it cost me about 70 , I even made 20 on the airbag swap
    You bought a MFSW for 70 ? - Well done.
    I'm an optimist but I don't think it helps much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marms
    You bought a MFSW for 70 ? - Well done.
    No the steering wheel was about 60 inc delivery
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3.2 Ju
    No the steering wheel was about 60 inc delivery
    Where did you get the wheel from?

    The only concern with doing it myself is messing up the airbag, is there a picture tutorial of someone removing the steering wheel? Also how hard would it be to wire in the new wheel etc, the last car I worked on was a 1977 MG Midget and things have moved on considerably since then!
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    Good old ebay!

    The airbag comes of by undoing 2 small bolts at the rear/side of the wheel(behind 2 plastic covers).
    The airbag will then unplug, just make sure the ignition is kept off while its out.
    The actual steering wheel is fixed by a torx headed bolt.

    My suggestion would be to just get a wheel and then worry about the fitting after, there's plenty of friendly help on this forum if you need it!
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    Hi Guys,

    I have VAG-COM, how can i check which module i have to see what is needed???

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3.2 Ju
    Good old ebay!

    The actual steering wheel is fixed by a torx headed bolt.
    My 2005 had a spine bolt holding the wheel on.

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    Sorry if i am intruding on this thread

    I have a 2004 and want to fit a MFSW and cruise control and i have the DSG paddles. Do you think i will need a steering wheel control module for the cruise control.
    What parts would i need to do a MFSW conversion?

    Another way to use the bluetooth is to get a switch to go in dash (in one of the blanks next to the ESP button) for 7.24 + VAT from VAGparts and wire it into the MFSW connector.

    I am going to wire it into the button on the phone cradle which I removed of the dash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gti Jazz Blue
    My 2005 had a spine bolt holding the wheel on.

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    Quite correct , it's an M12 sized one.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattandrew
    I have a 2004 and want to fit a MFSW and cruise control and i have the DSG paddles. Do you think i will need a steering wheel control module for the cruise control.
    Well I didn't need a new one, mines an 05, but I suppose there's only one way to find out
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattandrew
    Sorry if i am intruding on this thread

    I have a 2004 and want to fit a MFSW and cruise control and i have the DSG paddles. Do you think i will need a steering wheel control module for the cruise control.
    What parts would i need to do a MFSW conversion?

    Another way to use the bluetooth is to get a switch to go in dash (in one of the blanks next to the ESP button) for 7.24 + VAT from VAGparts and wire it into the MFSW connector.

    I am going to wire it into the button on the phone cradle which I removed of the dash.

    Matt
    Not too sure the MFSW was an option in 2004? If it wasn't then you may have the added problem of missing wiring looms

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    The signals from the mfsw controls use the same wires that feed the paddles.
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    Do you think a regular garage would fit this for me if I brought all the parts?

 

 

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