09 Plate 8P Black Edition - VCDS Help

So after buying the Mrs a 2010 Golf GT 3 months ago for her 40th, she now tells me she hates it and wants her old Audi back. Erm - we chopped it in love !!!

So been to look at a few Black Editions and very surprised at how many dealers want to sell ex fleet dogs in my opinion which are all quite tatty and just been tarted up to make a quick buck.

However all is not lost and I have a found a 2009 BE 2.0 TDI with 38K on the clock and FASH which looks very clean and only has a few niggles with it like a broken air vent, broken battery cowling, arm rest lid clasp, tatty door seal and air bag light surround which is loose.

I gave it the obligatory scan with VCDS and it has quite a few errors which I was surprised at and the list was quite long. i.e. passenger door module, brake lights, radio, bulbs. However after clearing them all it looks like it has an issue with the MAF (No Biggie and an easy fix), the stereo doesn't seem to be coded right and error 00470 which from my research could be anything from door locks, battery drain broken wiring etc.

CDS Version: Release 12.12.2 (x64)
Data version: 20140212Tuesday,29,April,2014,11:27:08:34095
Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72
VIN: WAUZZZ8P19A103483 Mileage: 63220km/39283miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (CBA) Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 022 LS HW: 03L 906 022 BQ
Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG 3610
Revision: 13H01--- Serial number: AUX7Z0I0FNF0F0
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 83968 666 461638
VCID: 810F6988D88CA516149-80D4
1 Fault Found:
000256 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
P0100 - 000 - Supply Voltage - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 115 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Voltage: 6.54 V
Load: 100.0 %
Load: 100.0 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 805.0 mg/str
Mass Air / Rev.: 920.0 mg/str
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0106
Revision: 00H35001
Coding: 13424012092200FDC80F02EC901C00823800
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 74E1B05CD73E00BE8FF-8021
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BG HW: 8P0 820 043 BG
Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0100
Revision: 000217 Serial number: 8P0820043BG
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 72EDB6446D2A0E8E9D3-8027
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 N HW: 8P0 907 279 N
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2801
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000009290528
Coding: 118A0F81B0141380EF00000A0000000000084E0564060403642000000000
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
VCID: 489934AC3B36D45E137-801D
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 F Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AU350 H10 0040
Coding: 00056595
Shop #: WSC 06314
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 8P0-959-655-10.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 J HW: 8P0 959 655 J
Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0090
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003CA004HTE3
Coding: 303142383038303030374A55305238503053
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
VCID: 499F31A8E83C2D560C9-801C
Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 3572DRB4000087BD293$
Crash sensor for side airbag; passenger side:
Serial number: 3582DRB4000087B9415W
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear driver side:
Serial number: 35128RB400004986388L
Crash sensor for side airbag; rear passenger side:
Serial number: 35228RB400004985BC9Y
Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
Serial number: 35547RB400005F2A800K
Crash sensor for front airbag; passenger side:
Serial number: 35647RB400005F2A86A.
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F HW: 8P0 953 549 F
Component: J0527 H36 0070
Coding: 0002012
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 418F2988180CE516D49-8014
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 H06 0030
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 C HW: 8P0 920 982 C
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H19 0860
Revision: D0H19007 Serial number: 2240I007013999
Coding: 0004428
Shop #: WSC 00568 210 80708
VCID: 397F416870DCBDD69C9-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 S HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H16 0210
Revision: H16 Serial number: 3400K0911901EE
Coding: E9817F06000202002103
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 377B475046C8ABA66AD-8062
1 Fault Found:
00470 - Combination comfort Databus in Single Wire
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 110
Mileage: 63220 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.04.29
Time: 11:26:42

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 C HW: 8P0 920 982 C
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H19 0860
Revision: D0H19007 Serial number: AUX7Z0I0FNF0F0
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 397F416870DCBDD69C9-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K
Component: Tuer-SG H03 0060
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 438323800210F706C65-8016
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 E
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 233 2501
Revision: 00H15000
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: 2C51683C8F8E187E17F-8079
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 8P0 959 433 J
Component: KSG H11 0080
Coding: 1980200002186D0985054C9FC637
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 438323800210F706C65-8016
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K HW: 8P0 959 802 K
Component: Tuer-SG H03 0060
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 4481209C071EF03EFFF-8011
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 8P3 907 357
Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: FAFD1E64B55AF6CE553-80AF
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 P HW: 8P0 035 186 P
Component: R Concert2+ H03 0270
Revision: 00H03000 Serial number: AUZ1Z3I9720240
Coding: 0310201
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 3F8B2F706EF893E6A2D-806A
1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 15

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 E HW: 8P4 959 801 E
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
VCID: 418F2988180CE516D49-8014
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 E HW: 8P4 959 802 E
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
VCID: 428D26841D0AFE0ECD3-8017
No fault code found.
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I really don't want to buy a lemon and have long term issues with it as this is not a cheap car. I wished I had saved the scan prior to clearing the codes.

Everything seems to work on the car, radio, locks, lights (number plate light blown) Air con etc and drives fine.

Any advice appreciated people. This is the 5th BE I have looked at and the cleanest straightest example yet, but these codes are worrying me. I don't know if the 00470 is related to the radio possibly not being coded correctly.

Damn

I think I may have put this in the wrong section. Mods should this have gone under VCDS section ?

That's the one. under the arches not far from the Rising Sun pub.

Owners seem okay. Left me alone to my own devices for a good hour with the keys whilst I looked the car over inside out. Not pushy at all and I had to go and find them to talk specifics.

Cleared all codes and the ones that came back are on my original post above

A3Kent said:

Looks good. Low mileage for it's age which may not be a good thing as it has a DPF...

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Its just a minefield. Everyone on VW forums have been having issues around 60-80K on 4 year old cars with EGRS and DPFs. Plenty more cars out there with higher miles than this which are younger but its just a gamble all round.

I suppose I could have a look at the ash and soot levels tomorrow. Any idea on what a high level would be ?

Veneeringman said:

Has it 100% got a DPF ?? also depends on what type of journeys its been used on.

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I think so. It is a CR engine with the CBA code. DPF and EGR are the most expensive way of keeping your tail pipes soot free in my opinion. Just such a flawed design !

I think the car would have been used on short journeys if I am guessing. One lady owner and only did 9000 miles in the first year and it goes on from there.

Like I said always a gamble with used cars and a new EGR and DPF is around 1.5 to 2K to sort out.

I had a read about the other error code you sent me the link for. It may be linked to the radio. The radio looks original, however I have a spare Symphony II 6Cd changer which I would throw in it anyway.

I am just hoping it is not something more sinister like a water leak as it threw up codes for the brake lights (need to check they work) and the front passenger door module which could be anything from the speaker (need to check it worked) CL motor to the window regulator or indeed a broken wire somewhere on the car. I wonder if the number plate light bulb would cause this ?

I hate buying cars. It like playing Russian Roulette with your wallet.

pushing myself to get this one as its up for just shy of £14K so its £ 5K for the cost to change as they are offering £ 9K for my golf.

I have been looking at slightly cheaper S Lines but finding a good clean example that does not need me travelling to Devon / Bristol / Essex / Bournemouth is not easy

I have always bought 3-4 year old cars since I bought my first Golf GTI on an 02 plate. The only major issues I have ever had other than service parts have been a snapped spring and bust water pump so been lucky on all accounts. However as cars get more technical they cost more to put right and are often beyond the knowledge of your local indie.

At times I feel like just going and buying a new ford focus for the £ 14K.

A3Kent said:

Is it worth going to an Audi Dealer? You'll get 1 years Audi warranty which gives you peace of mind. That's what I did and I'd do the same again if I was going to change (which I almost did recently- mines a 2009 S-line, see signature).

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The thought has crossed my mind. The only one I can see at the moment is over at JCT600 in Hull

£ 450 cheaper than this red one and a year younger but only an Sline and 50K on the clock and its black which can look pretty crap if it has a few knocks on it. It does have the nice split rims and an RNSe though

JCT600 - Used 2010 AUDI A3 2.0 TDI S-Line cars for sale at Audi Hull

So whats the score with used approved Audi. Are they like new cars when you buy them and they sort out all faults or more of a sold as seen type of scenario. Never bought from a main dealer before.

Spoke to the Audi dealer in Hull re the SLine - Jesus they are hard work.

You have to make an appointment to view because its month end and they can only spare me an hour !!! Gave him the details of my px and they said if you take finance over £ 7500 you get two free services. GREAT. I would have hoped to get more than £ 6K for a 2010 VW Golf GT Tdi that I just spent £ 10.5K on buying and been offered £ 9K for.

Just seem a bit clueless to me.

Nice one Veneeringman, you have got me thinking about this red one again and whether its worth the hassle of going to Hull. Do I, Don't I, Do I, Don't I mmmmmmmmm

I hate buying cars.

A3Kent said:

When I bought mine from the dealer, I had it sent back 3 times before I was happy with it. Kept finding little things (it's black by the way), damage, scratches etc that I thought shouldn't be there when buying a used car from an Audi Dealer. They were very good to be fair and I still go to them to get it serviced etc as a result. I'm down south though so no good to you. It is worth travelling to a good dealer if you can find one. Surely people on here can recommend you one. I travel 120 miles round trip to mine.

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How old was your car when you bought it from Audi ?

So in essence it was like a new car when you got it ?

I cant see me travelling to and fro from Manchester to Hull to get little niggles sorted out. The cost of diesel alone would probably make it easier to sort myself.

However if the car is pristine which I would expect from a main dealer then it shouldn't really need to go back.

lgooch said:

The thought has crossed my mind. The only one I can see at the moment is over at JCT600 in Hull

£ 450 cheaper than this red one and a year younger but only an Sline and 50K on the clock and its black which can look pretty crap if it has a few knocks on it. It does have the nice split rims and an RNSe though

JCT600 - Used 2010 AUDI A3 2.0 TDI S-Line cars for sale at Audi Hull

So whats the score with used approved Audi. Are they like new cars when you buy them and they sort out all faults or more of a sold as seen type of scenario. Never bought from a main dealer before.

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A3Kent. I took your advice and bought a petrol 1.8T black edition today from Audi in York. More than anything for peace of mind due to warranty.

So it's a 59 plate with 24k on the clock for pretty much the same price as a 2010 plate diesel with 60k on it and all the usual headaches of possible EGR and DPF issues as we don't do many miles.

Couple of issues with it which Audi are sorting, specifically the dent in the door which has had a bad smart repair done on it which you can probably make out in the pics. Serviced 1500 miles ago, 1 year warranty and because I took out there finance, I get two free services.

All in all not a bad deal and if out goes wrong it's under warranty.

Couple of phone pics. Only drawback is its a standard BE. No extras such as Bluetooth, auto lights, seats etc but I suppose you can't have everything. Just need to get hold of NHN to sort Btooth.

Yup. Phantom black and alloys were pristine. Look like a call to NHN then