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    Oil after long life service

    I hoping someone here can help me from thinking I'm going mental but just got wife's 2007 SB 2.0 Tdi 170 s-line DSG serviced as per the date rather mileage as per service indicator.(serviced last 09/2011 at 39k miles, serviced today at 51k miles)

    All good there from Audi South Dublin, missed the €299 long life service offer by a few days but €329 every two years with 12 months AA roadside assist thrown in for free seems good value.

    Apart from a rake of items they feel it needs done(timing belt and water pump at 51k miles!! and DSG oil and filter when THYE did it 10k miles ago!) I checked the oil on the dipstick after I had put in some oil engine treatment expecting to see a nice new light brown oil but it was the jet black colour that the oil was before it went in for service.

    hence I don't to sound like a lunatic asking them did they forget to change the oil when on the job sheet it reads they put in oil, air, pollen, fuel filters and 4.5 litres of oil BUT the fact that it's that jet black colour seems strange.

    Has anyone any experience of this long life oil?

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    Your timing belt is due on time not mileage. Ignore what the service book states the interval is. It's wrong. I always recommend changing the water pump at the same time as changing the belt, it's good practise and avoids potential false economy. You'd only be kicking yourself should the water pump fail and make the timing jump, just because you wanted to save some money.

    Diesels tend blacken up the oil very quickly. I've changed the oil on a car before at work, dipped it before starting and it was clean. Ran it up for 30seconds and then re-dipped and is was black again. Not a lot you can do I'm afraid.
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    As above, new oil will go black as soon as engine is started, perfectly normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis583 View Post
    Your timing belt is due on time not mileage. Ignore what the service book states the interval is. It's wrong. I always recommend changing the water pump at the same time as changing the belt, it's good practise and avoids potential false economy. You'd only be kicking yourself should the water pump fail and make the timing jump, just because you wanted to save some money.

    Diesels tend blacken up the oil very quickly. I've changed the oil on a car before at work, dipped it before starting and it was clean. Ran it up for 30seconds and then re-dipped and is was black again. Not a lot you can do I'm afraid.
    Thanks for the quick reply, at least I'm not losing the plot!

    Thanks for the tips on belt and pump etc. I'll get them done by a good independent rather than Audi as I had an idea they would say it needed brake pads but I wasn't planning on spending

    €450 for timing belt and water pump
    €169 for front pads
    €169 for rear pads
    €75 for brake fluid change
    €280 for DSG oil and filter
    €150 for V belt(recommended to be done when doing timing belt
    €700 for four new tyres(I asked them to rotate the wheels as rears have at least 4mm and seem fine but they said they wouldn't as they are too low!) that amount of money for Kumho seems far too high IMHO

    I was happy with service but not with the mental prices for parts that are so easily available online

    Nice to maintain Full Audi Service History though

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    As above, new oil will go black as soon as engine is started, perfectly normal.
    Cheers Nigel, I picked up a 2005 Mini Cooper S as a run around with the intention of cleaing it up and selling it but I've come to love it so much I turned down an offer that would have netted me €1,000!

    It has a small rocker cover gasket leak and hence I've been monitoring the oil every week and two months after the change it's still light brown.

    So I'm presuming the blackening of the oil is more to do with diesel engines?

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    150 to change a v belt ... Jesus now i wouldn't mind doing 2 of them a week at the price !

    they are pretty much shafting you id say my local independent that uses all genuine parts its cheaper try to find a good independent as most have more experience than main dealers and will suggest when to use genuine and when to use others stuff such as buy a gates timing kit from a local factors as its usually cheaper and its the same kit as gates make the belts for vw/audi ect ,

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    Earlier this year, a local specialist here in Lincoln, charged (in red):

    €450 for timing belt, water pump and V belt £330 incl VAT
    €280 for DSG oil and filter £135.00 incl VAT

    In most cases imho, people want to see a full service history from competent garages which can be backed up by paperwork...
    But if you want to maintain full Audi, then pay through the nose for it....

    I laugh.. Audi's used cars are sold with min 3.5mm tread... Is your dealer having a laugh / milking you????

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLapou View Post
    Earlier this year, a local specialist here in Lincoln, charged (in red):

    €450 for timing belt, water pump and V belt £330 incl VAT
    €280 for DSG oil and filter £135.00 incl VAT

    In most cases imho, people want to see a full service history from competent garages which can be backed up by paperwork...
    But if you want to maintain full Audi, then pay through the nose for it....

    I laugh.. Audi's used cars are sold with min 3.5mm tread... Is your dealer having a laugh / milking you????
    thanks for the info, my plan is to maintain the service intervals with Audi and then get the likes of timing belts or brake pads done by a good indue that I do his accounts for so i should just be able to pay the parts and the labour will be very little

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