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    Hi, I have sourced a brand new rack for a tt for my 2007 s3 PN 8J2423055EX I believe this is a 3rd gen rack and I will need to change the loom for it to fit my s3.

    Has anyone had any experience of changing the loom? Does it plug in to the existing one or does it need completely removing and the new one refitting? Is it a PITA

    I have changed the rack a few years ago as I had the same problem and I replaced it like for like gen 2 ( I think ) so I'm hoping the gen 3 has been uprated to stop the internal bushes from wearing so quickly as this is an expensive thing to do every year or two.

    Any info or advice regarding the loom, how the rack has been or if it has been uprated or any other info gratefully received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3ollie View Post
    Hi, I have sourced a brand new rack for a tt for my 2007 s3 PN 8J2423055EX I believe this is a 3rd gen rack and I will need to change the loom for it to fit my s3.

    Has anyone had any experience of changing the loom? Does it plug in to the existing one or does it need completely removing and the new one refitting? Is it a PITA

    I have changed the rack a few years ago as I had the same problem and I replaced it like for like gen 2 ( I think ) so I'm hoping the gen 3 has been uprated to stop the internal bushes from wearing so quickly as this is an expensive thing to do every year or two.

    Any info or advice regarding the loom, how the rack has been or if it has been uprated or any other info gratefully received.

    cheers
    I changed mine the other day mine is 2007 but got a 2008 one had to modify one plug same amount of wires 3 (1 orange with thick black line 1 orange with thin black line and 1 solid black) just different plug style mine worked a treat whats wrong with your rack is it the motor or rack itself? as you can separate motor?

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    Not sure if yours will take to this rack here but its bargain......Only needs a rack end which isnt alot really....

    Audi S3 2010 front running gear, subframe, arb, steering rack
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave@remaps View Post
    I changed mine the other day mine is 2007 but got a 2008 one had to modify one plug same amount of wires 3 (1 orange with thick black line 1 orange with thin black line and 1 solid black) just different plug style mine worked a treat whats wrong with your rack is it the motor or rack itself? as you can separate motor?
    ok thanks. There is an extra box on the motor on the 2007 ones that has a connector for another plug, this isn't there on the 2012 one I have so it must be different to the 2008 ones.

    My rack has play on the near side end, because the bushes inside the rack are worn. I could send it to be fixed but can't do without my car for days on end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr901 View Post
    Not sure if yours will take to this rack here but its bargain......Only needs a rack end which isnt alot really....

    Audi S3 2010 front running gear, subframe, arb, steering rack
    thanks for that but I have just brought a brand new one :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by s3ollie View Post
    ok thanks. There is an extra box on the motor on the 2007 ones that has a connector for another plug, this isn't there on the 2012 one I have so it must be different to the 2008 ones.

    My rack has play on the near side end, because the bushes inside the rack are worn. I could send it to be fixed but can't do without my car for days on end.
    yea there was a extra box on my original one but part numbers have been superseeded now by audi the new one i put in from 2008 onwards s3 was just a single module but modified loom plug its easy to do took me 5 mins. thats why i changed mine but o/s had play tps wanted £800 i got whole subframe complete £75 if you need any help or advise on fitting it pm me. and if you can inclued a pic of multi plugs on rack motor

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    Thats great thanks.

    i got a brand new rack for 250.


    I've had to do it before unfortunately so I'm ok with what to do.


    My car is lowered and has 15mm spacers so I'm wondering if that's wearing the rack to quickly as its only been about two years since it went last time.


    What did you have to do to the plug to mod it?


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    My original 1 had a 2 pin power plug a chunky 5 pin with 3 wires and another 5 pin plug that went to steering sensor on top of rack I just had to cut off the 5 pin plug with 3 wires on it and solder them to a 3 pin plug as the rack I brought still had the loom on it

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    I found this that shows some of the differences between gen 2 & 3 http://www.1stcallhosting.com/tech/a...43&currentdb=0 for those that are interested
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    I've just been reading this

    When replacing a generation 2 steering box with a generation 3 steering box, the electrical wiring ⇒ page 266 must also be replaced. When fitted, the type of steering box can be identified from the number of securing bolts.


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    Applies to vehicles with generation 2 steering box
    If a new steering box has been installed, the basic setting for the power steering control unit -J500- must be re-adapted and a characteristic curve download must be performed using vehicle diagnostic, testing and information system -VAS 5051B- ⇒ Vehicle diagnostic, testing and information system VAS 5051 „Guided Fault Finding“.

    Have you Dave or anyone else who has done the upgrade had to download the characteristic curve?
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