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    Indicators as daytime running lights

    Hi does anyone know how to code my indicators as daytime running lights (orange) as seen done before on my 2006 A3 S Line. Cheers

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    Is that even legal?
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    isnt this a repost ?

    if you have vcds you will get the info in the drop down menu's

    and as said in the other post its gona cause problems with the police in this country.
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    Don't think so but seen them on a couple and has anyone got the coding for vagcom? reposted as didn't get much help on the other one and would like to know where to find the option for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewis1 View Post
    Don't think so but seen them on a couple and has anyone got the coding for vagcom?
    i saw someone robbing a bank with a gun a few years ago.

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    I have now removed your duplicated thread as its pointless having 2.

    Indicators as daytime running lights help

    I did answer before & the fact you're asking to get nicked for dangerous driving, people will think your turning when your not etc, opens up a can of worms you may regret & as much as you may or may not be sensible at reading lights on cars, others are not.
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    Im going to uni in september and running the car with stance for looks basically as will be in garage for high percentage of the year, i have seen a few a3s now with the option on and would just like to know how it is done, i will run them at my own risk

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    as above its done with vcds

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    then your more likely to get pulled as your asking for trouble!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lewis1 View Post
    Im going to uni in september and running the car with stance for looks basically as will be in garage for high percentage of the year, i have seen a few a3s now with the option on and would just like to know how it is done, i will run them at my own risk
    Buy a VCDS cable and find out for yourself !

    How do you qualify for uni if you're daft enough to even think about running indicators as drl's ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Buy a VCDS cable and find out for yourself !

    How do you qualify for uni if you're daft enough to even think about running indicators as drl's ?
    Im not going to spend however much on a cable to find something like this out...hence why I'm using a forum. And saying how I qualifiy for Uni is a stupid thing to say, especially as a lot of mods ive seen aren't necessarily 'road legal'

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewis1 View Post
    Im not going to spend however much on a cable to find something like this out...hence why I'm using a forum. And saying how I qualifiy for Uni is a stupid thing to say, especially as a lot of mods ive seen aren't necessarily 'road legal'
    basically nobody agrees with your mod, so nobody wants to help you with it!
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    Yes there are many mods on the market that aren't necessarily road legal - but a 'mod' where you remove the means to clearly indicate to other roads users......

    Do you also want to code in the brake lights being constantly on or your reverse lights for that matter? I mean you may as well take things to the next level and start setting the 'scene' rather than following it.
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    Kwistof, I was going to say what about the brake lights, should I do it and see how many times I get pulled lol
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    Forgetting the legallity and common sense aspect, why would you want orange lights on your car?
    Surely the majority of owners and manufacturers alike are trying to remove all traces of orange from the lights when they're turned off.
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    Give the OP a break lads, he only asked the question. I do agree with this though....

    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    I did answer before & the fact you're asking to get nicked for dangerous driving, people will think your turning when your not etc, opens up a can of worms you may regret & as much as you may or may not be sensible at reading lights on cars, others are not.
    I have seen a few A3's with it done and although I don't agree that it should be done, I've always wondered how it was actually done. May have a play about with VCDS tonight.
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    Another factor to take into account is when it's mot time, would you change it back just for the mot and then put them back to drls after that
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    Had my MOT last week so havent got to worry about it for a while, my dads mate has garage so would just pop it through anyway...at the end of the day its my car my decision and my preference

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewis1 View Post
    Had my MOT last week so havent got to worry about it for a while, my dads mate has garage so would just pop it through anyway...at the end of the day its my car my decision and my preference
    Fair enough....but if you were to be involved in an accident - whether it be your fault or not....if the car is not road worthy at the time of the incident then you could face some pretty serious issues when going through the claim.
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    This has been my point all along & concern, if there was a fatal incident, you would be in serious shxt tbh, the legal claims wouldn't be covered if they found the indicators to be the cause of the issue, you would possibly be responsible for claims running into hundreds of thousands of pounds & that will never leave you side for life unless you have a lottery win.

    Do you really understand the possible liability you're putting on your shoulders here?
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    I'm not a big fan of this mod either... More for the fact it would look a bit bizarre.

    If you like the "Orange" look, why don't you fit some running lights like they have on the American cars? A few people on here with the older A3s have done it and it looks alright...

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    So much flaming... amazing!

    Does anyone actually have any solid evidence to say that they aren't legal in the UK?

    I'd like to make a point about some other UK spec cars that also have orange DRLs. All E60, facelift e90/91/92/93, and F10 bmws to my knowledge have orange lights on the front that aren't indicators. and they're used as police cars.

    UKDM volvos, up until recently, all came with orange DRLs. Also used as police cars.

    There are even some commercial vans, transits, sprinters, etc that have them on the side of the van. Also used by the police!

    So if all these vehicles are on uk roads with these lights, then whats the frikkin big deal?!



    Edit: I had this mod for a while, got stopped by a traffic car, which was in fact an e61 like the one above, they said nothing about the indicators as DRLs.

    To the OP, if u do this mod, make sure u reduce light percentage to around 20%
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwistof View Post
    Yes there are many mods on the market that aren't necessarily road legal - but a 'mod' where you remove the means to clearly indicate to other roads users......

    Do you also want to code in the brake lights being constantly on or your reverse lights for that matter? I mean you may as well take things to the next level and start setting the 'scene' rather than following it.
    Not sure if this thread is serious
    Do you realise that when you do indicate, the DRL function stops? If you set the light percentage to 20%, and indicate, they indicate at full brightness as normal. Once u've stopped indicating, the DRL function continues.
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    the flashers on is an MOT fail
    and yes you can get a ticket for it

    theres no harm in haveing orange drl or markers
    i have them on my HGV i also have green on a tanker
    but the flashers have to be of if not turning and work as they should

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidhu88 View Post
    So much flaming... amazing!

    Does anyone actually have any solid evidence to say that they aren't legal in the UK?

    I'd like to make a point about some other UK spec cars that also have orange DRLs. All E60, facelift e90/91/92/93, and F10 bmws to my knowledge have orange lights on the front that aren't indicators. and they're used as police cars.

    UKDM volvos, up until recently, all came with orange DRLs. Also used as police cars.

    There are even some commercial vans, transits, sprinters, etc that have them on the side of the van. Also used by the police!

    So if all these vehicles are on uk roads with these lights, then whats the frikkin big deal?!
    I think you're missing the point tbh, whether they're legal or not, think of the psychological impact, most daily/sensible drivers know where indicators are on specific cars, so when they look at a car & see the orange light lit, yes there are some common sense of whether its flashing or not, but there will be that of chance that they will see this as a signal to turn & react to this however they see fit, this is the main problem here which they're aren't taking into the equation.

    Its common practise for brake lights to be indicators in the US, but here its unheard of.

    What happens if that 0.00001% time it does cause a problem that it ends up actually causing a very serious accident, where does that leave him, knowing insurance companies, out to dry with claims to pay out of his pocket & if they question the reason for the accident "he was indicating, no I wasn't, then why were your indicators lit, oh because I reprogrammed them to be lit all the time" I can imagine how that conversation will go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidhu88 View Post
    So much flaming... amazing!

    Does anyone actually have any solid evidence to say that they aren't legal in the UK?

    I'd like to make a point about some other UK spec cars that also have orange DRLs. All E60, facelift e90/91/92/93, and F10 bmws to my knowledge have orange lights on the front that aren't indicators. and they're used as police cars.

    UKDM volvos, up until recently, all came with orange DRLs. Also used as police cars.

    There are even some commercial vans, transits, sprinters, etc that have them on the side of the van. Also used by the police!

    So if all these vehicles are on uk roads with these lights, then whats the frikkin big deal?!



    Edit: I had this mod for a while, got stopped by a traffic car, which was in fact an e61 like the one above, they said nothing about the indicators as DRLs.

    To the OP, if u do this mod, make sure u reduce light percentage to around 20%
    I was going to say the same thing!

    many, many cars on the road with orange side lights. If the indicators where on really bright then I could see this being an issue as there would be little difference to see the flashes
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    When you are talking about the Bmw with the orange drls they are not indicators and they certainly are not full on the same colour as indicator orange either, it is a different shade and it matters !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon View Post
    I was going to say the same thing!

    many, many cars on the road with orange side lights. If the indicators where on really bright then I could see this being an issue as there would be little difference to see the flashes
    Yes but allot of these cars have separate indicators & the daily drivers know this already, but if the drivers look at a car & see an orange light on where the indicator should be, they will react as though it was indicating, there's a difference to the scenario you've put forward.
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    Daytime running lights | AA

    Lets highlight the point out of that article
    "Daytime running lights are designed to come on automatically when the engine is started - all other lights should remain off."

    Highlighting the fact it says "Daytime running lights" and not "Indicators"
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    and the drl should turn off when main lights are ON

    if you set the audi to then on they do stay on with main lights

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Yes but allot of these cars have separate indicators & the daily drivers know this already, but if the drivers look at a car & see an orange light on where the indicator should be, they will react as though it was indicating, there's a difference to the scenario you've put forward.
    Yeah i completely agree with you, I am on your side here, I am completely against the indicator as DRL theory.
    The Bmw ones are not fully orange like an indicator though so they can get away with it where as an indicator is fully orange people will think your indicating when in theory your not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bez101 View Post
    and the drl should turn off when main lights are ON

    if you set the audi to then on they do stay on with main lights
    They "Should" turn off but they do not, this isnt a legal requirement so Audi have designed it so they stay on with the headlights not only to be extra safe than just headlights on there own but to style the car too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audi Dynamik View Post
    Yeah i completely agree with you, I am on your side here, I am completely against the indicator as DRL theory.
    Sorry I should of quoted Boons post in my reply, as it wasn't in reply to yours

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    Oh right was wondering
    I have just edited that post too.
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