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    Hi, I'm currently looking into getting my 2.0T FSI Bluefin'd. My only worry is my car has 111k on the clock, would it be daft to remap with such high mileage? Could really do with some opinions to help me make up my mind, thanks

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    Nope ..I've remapped mine with bluefin 2 weeks ago ......and I don't think I'll never go back. Makes such a difference. No lag,Pulls Nice.

    it puts more pressure on the turbo thou ...so bare that in mind.

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    I'm on Stage 2 Bluefin - only problem is wheelspin ... new tyres needed.
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    It's just the high mileage I'm worried about, might it be best to get a new turbo fitted first?

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    You should be OK BUT ... you would be advised to get a health check done first on the engine - it's basically a check for common failure items and issues i.e. a split DV, old plugs, ECU error codes, vacuum leaks etc... This is not really something that can be done by an Audi dealer so take it to a specialist.

    Why do you want the Bluefin? I had one on my Edition 30 Golf and it was OK but nothing special (they are often 10-20bhp down on their published figures). If you need the convenience of a dongle, then I would suggest a Shark map, or if you would prefer a custom tune, then I can recommend www.mrctuning.com - they include a diagnostic check and a before and after dyno printout.

    BTW, I would change plugs before the remap unkess they've been changed in the last 5k miles (make sure you fit genuine Audi plugs not OEM equivalent).

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    I have a Bluefin for sale message me if interested or you can find it in the classifieds.

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    Well I've been undecided for a while about which remap route to take, having spoke to Rick @ Unicorn I was planning on going there this weekend for a custom map (sorry Rick). Was just looking on eBay and spotted a Bluefin for £220 yesterday that I had seen on 3 times before and it's price kept dropping, been messaging the guy and got it for £170 including delivery. He's sending it out tomorrow, looking forward to installing it on my car. I would of definitely gone for the custom map with Unicorn as it sounded the best option for me but to get a Bluefin for £170 was just to good to turn down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Was just looking on eBay and spotted a Bluefin for £220 yesterday that I had seen on 3 times before and it's price kept dropping, been messaging the guy and got it for £170 including delivery. He's sending it out tomorrow, looking forward to installing it on my car. I would of definitely gone for the custom map with Unicorn as it sounded the best option for me but to get a Bluefin for £170 was just to good to turn down
    You won't be able to use bluefin from somebody else's car on yours until you get in touch with Superchips and they re-set it for you.
    They also charge for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAiLO View Post
    You won't be able to use bluefin from somebody else's car on yours until you get in touch with Superchips and they re-set it for you.
    They also charge for it
    Its already been reset, I checked the serial number with Superchips

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Its already been reset, I checked the serial number with Superchips
    Bargain. These units usually go for about that price un-reset, and then you have to pay superchips a further £150-£250 to reset it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    Bargain. These units usually go for about that price un-reset, and then you have to pay superchips a further £150-£250 to reset it.
    Thanks Ads, thought it was an absolute bargain so jumped at it. Looking forward to getting it on my car, going off your experience though I just hope they send the correct map for the DSG haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Thanks Ads, thought it was an absolute bargain so jumped at it. Looking forward to getting it on my car, going off your experience though I just hope they send the correct map for the DSG haha
    Haha, yep, if you start having smoothness issues then it's the first thing to check.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    Haha, yep, if you start having smoothness issues then it's the first thing to check.

    Enjoy!
    Do they do different kinds of maps? Can it be tweaked? Thanks mate, I'm sure I'll enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Do they do different kinds of maps? Can it be tweaked? Thanks mate, I'm sure I'll enjoy it.
    First you'll receive the generic map they send out to everyone with the same engine/gearbox as you. This is usually fine for most people, but if after installing it you are not happy with the performance just give them a call explaining what you were hoping for and they'll send you a more aggressive map (or less, if you want it) immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    First you'll receive the generic map they send out to everyone with the same engine/gearbox as you. This is usually fine for most people, but if after installing it you are not happy with the performance just give them a call explaining what you were hoping for and they'll send you a more aggressive map (or less, if you want it) immediately.
    Oh right, that's good that they do that. Did you just keep the generic one mate or you end up tweaking it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Oh right, that's good that they do that. Did you just keep the generic one mate or you end up tweaking it?
    Nah, I just kept the generic one, it was just right. Any more aggressive and my car would've had some serious traction problems.

    Maybe if I was interested in fitting other bits and pieces to improve traction then I would've asked them for something a bit more torquey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    Nah, I just kept the generic one, it was just right. Any more aggressive and my car would've had some serious traction problems.

    Maybe if I was interested in fitting other bits and pieces to improve traction then I would've asked them for something a bit more torquey.
    Thanks for the info mate, I'll see how the generic one is and take it from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Thanks for the info mate, I'll see how the generic one is and take it from there
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    Just found out that the Bluefin doesn't work on a mac? Don't know why it hasn't been made compatible, have to borrow somebody's laptop to do it when I get it.

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    OK so Bluefin arrived yesterday and I installed it today, upon reloading the new map it kept saying PCM ERROR. Said this around 3 times then started to install something, the map I'm guessing. After this it made me turn ignition on, then off, then on, then off and then on again and said Bluefin installed. Thing is my car doesn't feel any different at all, tried to ring them but they were closed and their site says they are only open weekdays which is no good to me as its now the weekend. Anybody any ideas? Can the map be reinstalled maybe?

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    If you plug the bluefin in again what does it say? If it says bluefin installed or something like that then your car should already have the remap loaded to it.

    Uninstall the remap and then reinstall it. Hopefully this time you won't get an error. If you do then you'll need to speak to superchips as you may have the incorrect remap or faulty unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    OK so Bluefin arrived yesterday and I installed it today, upon reloading the new map it kept saying PCM ERROR. Said this around 3 times then started to install something, the map I'm guessing. After this it made me turn ignition on, then off, then on, then off and then on again and said Bluefin installed. Thing is my car doesn't feel any different at all, tried to ring them but they were closed and their site says they are only open weekdays which is no good to me as its now the weekend. Anybody any ideas? Can the map be reinstalled maybe?
    There is some info on the PCM on page 8 of the user guide if,sorry if you have allready seen this
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    Also, make sure you have the unit plugged in properly. PCM errors are also possible due to bad connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    If you plug the bluefin in again what does it say? If it says bluefin installed or something like that then your car should already have the remap loaded to it.

    Uninstall the remap and then reinstall it. Hopefully this time you won't get an error. If you do then you'll need to speak to superchips as you may have the incorrect remap or faulty unit.
    It says Bluefin installed mate, I'll have a go at uninstalling it tomorrow and re doing it

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    did you read your own ECU to back it up first? then connect it to Superchips' servers to check it's been reset for your specific engine? have you entered your details in the software?

    I think you may need to contact superchips to have it transfered to your ownership! I was told by a reseller this was tricky to do and in a lot of cases it was easier to buy new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artimus View Post
    did you read your own ECU to back it up first? then connect it to Superchips' servers to check it's been reset for your specific engine? have you entered your details in the software?

    I think you may need to contact superchips to have it transfered to your ownership! I was told by a reseller this was tricky to do and in a lot of cases it was easier to buy new.
    Its alread been reset, I registered it as new. I think something has gone wrong from downloading the map to putting it on the car, I'm going to re-do it tomorrow hopefully with no errors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    OK so Bluefin arrived yesterday and I installed it today, upon reloading the new map it kept saying PCM ERROR. Said this around 3 times then started to install something, the map I'm guessing. After this it made me turn ignition on, then off, then on, then off and then on again and said Bluefin installed. Thing is my car doesn't feel any different at all, tried to ring them but they were closed and their site says they are only open weekdays which is no good to me as its now the weekend. Anybody any ideas? Can the map be reinstalled maybe?
    Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs but from what you have wrote above the ignition should be on while it is installing and you should only have to turn the ignition off after it has said Bluefin installed
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPARTAN91 View Post
    Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs but from what you have wrote above the ignition should be on while it is installing and you should only have to turn the ignition off after it has said Bluefin installed
    Yeah it didn't seem right, all the error messages then making me turn ignition on and off about 5/6 times. Hopefully a reinstall will sort it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPARTAN91 View Post
    Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs but from what you have wrote above the ignition should be on while it is installing and you should only have to turn the ignition off after it has said Bluefin installed


    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Yeah it didn't seem right, all the error messages then making me turn ignition on and off about 5/6 times. Hopefully a reinstall will sort it out
    That ignition switching is totally normal. The finishing procedure when installing or removing the remap always requires about 4 to 6 on/off cycles of the ignition.
    But the ignition should've been on during the bulk of the install process... the on off on off on off bit only happens right at the end.

    I sold my reset unit on to Digzz and he had an error when loading his remap also. Might be a common problem on units that have been reset. He got on to superchips and they sorted it for him remotely though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post



    That ignition switching is totally normal. The finishing procedure when installing or removing the remap always requires about 4 to 6 on/off cycles of the ignition.
    But the ignition should've been on during the bulk of the install process... the on off on off on off bit only happens right at the end.

    I sold my reset unit on to Digzz and he had an error when loading his remap also. Might be a common problem on units that have been reset. He got on to superchips and they sorted it for him remotely though.
    Its annoying because I can't even speak to Superchips as they are only open weekdays and I'm working away from Monday so car will be at home for a few weeks, I'm reinstalling it as we speak. I'm thinking they may of sent me the wrong map maybe???

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    Ok reinstalled map and car feels much different now, it didn't throw up any errors this time. Something must of gone wrong last time, can definitely feel the difference. Still going to have a word with Superchips as it feels about flat in places, I'm wondering if they have sent me the manual map instead of DSG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    Ok reinstalled map and car feels much different now, it didn't throw up any errors this time. Something must of gone wrong last time, can definitely feel the difference. Still going to have a word with Superchips as it feels about flat in places, I'm wondering if they have sent me the manual map instead of DSG
    Definitely worth checking with them that you've got the dsg version map. The manual map will probably give you a slight hesitation when the car tries to produce a lot of torque quickly... e.g. accelerating hard from a slow speed at low revs. You'll feel a short stutter as the power builds.

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    Did you state Auto Transmission in your vehicle registration details? If not, edit them in the PC program, plug the unit in, connect and see if it updates with a different file from the server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    Definitely worth checking with them that you've got the dsg version map. The manual map will probably give you a slight hesitation when the car tries to produce a lot of torque quickly... e.g. accelerating hard from a slow speed at low revs. You'll feel a short stutter as the power builds.
    That is exactly how it feels mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artimus View Post
    Did you state Auto Transmission in your vehicle registration details? If not, edit them in the PC program, plug the unit in, connect and see if it updates with a different file from the server.
    Yes I stated Auto Transmission, a few people have stated that when filling it out though and ended up with the manual map

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    Heard good stuff about blufin until my mate used it on his astra vxr he had to have a new ecu and he blamed blufin as ecu stopped responding with the car after remap by blufin tool, he rang them up and they said its not our fault but never heard a bad thing about them apart from that, although my remap guy said hes had a few cars come in with blufin tuning done on the dyno and not made a great amount of power, but worth getting as you can return it if your not happy with it which is good service
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidy06 View Post
    That is exactly how it feels mate
    Definitely the manual map you've got then, I'd say.
    Don't worry, your car is safe to drive in the meantime, it won't damage it. The hesitation is happening due to your torque limiter kicking in. The dsg version gets around this.


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    Did you state Auto Transmission in your vehicle registration details? If not, edit them in the PC program, plug the unit in, connect and see if it updates with a different file from the server.
    I don't think the info you register via the pc software does much, it's too open to mistakes. Superchips determine the remap your car needs based on the stock map you upload.
    They must have a bit of a problem telling the difference between manual and dsg. The same happened to me and I definitely entered my car as an auto, superchips confirmed this when I called them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDI140 View Post
    my remap guy said hes had a few cars come in with blufin tuning done on the dyno and not made a great amount of power, but worth getting as you can return it if your not happy with it which is good service
    Speaking to superchips I got the impression they were very careful of not increasing power too much and maybe causing excessive wear of engines etc.
    The guy I spoke to said they had various other more aggressive maps for each engine but as a starting point they send out the ones that they consider "safest". Customers can then go back to them if they want something a bit more tasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    Speaking to superchips I got the impression they were very careful of not increasing power too much and maybe causing excessive wear of engines etc.
    The guy I spoke to said they had various other more aggressive maps for each engine but as a starting point they send out the ones that they consider "safest". Customers can then go back to them if they want something a bit more tasty.
    he did say the maps had nice smooth power output but not a decent increase but as you said ads if yiu ask then you want moe power they would tune the map to be more ferocious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ads View Post
    Speaking to superchips I got the impression they were very careful of not increasing power too much and maybe causing excessive wear of engines etc.
    The guy I spoke to said they had various other more aggressive maps for each engine but as a starting point they send out the ones that they consider "safest". Customers can then go back to them if they want something a bit more tasty.
    Now that's interesting I didnt know they provide different maps - I'm on stage 2. Need to give them a call ...
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