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    2005-2012 Double din conversion

    I know there is a lot of threads on this but need some help with specifics. Really appreciate any help as im in NZ so cant get NHN to pop over unfortunately! Wrecked A3s are non existent here so am buying all parts out of the UK and Germany; therefore its essential I don't stuff up the part numbers. We are of course RHD here and with the exception of the speedo, the car is relatively identical to UK spec.

    I have this:
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    I want this:
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    My questions are:

    1. Double din cage: What part numbers will work, taking into account I want the 'hazard button strip' with the chrome strip top and bottom?

    2. 'Chrome Hazard button strip': Is there anything I need to be aware of here? I noticed there is an airbag off switch which I presume would just be a dead button? Is there any plugs I need to change or wires that need to be spliced etc for the ESP and hazard switches? There seems to be a few variations/part numbers of this also.

    3. Climate unit. I have purchased an 8P3 facelift climate so I can cannibalise the dials from it and im about to buy a double din pre facelift 8P2 unit. If I buy a pre facelift unit with the heated seat option (i don't have heated seats) can I use this unit with the heated seat buttons not functioning? The reason being I've found one thats nice and cheap.

    4. Concert. I want one similar to this with chrome dials and prefer MP3. I have a concert single din with 10 speakers + sub so I must get the Concert double din, not the Chorus? I really have no use for an RNSE as I dont spend a lot of time in the car. Is there anything I need to be aware of when purchasing, obviously buying one with a code is essential?
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    I understand from another thread that NHN posted in that there will be an issue with radio reception. I can live with that if there isn't an easy/cheap fix. Is there any part numbers (perhaps an earlier model) of the above that will fit and avoid the reception issues?
    Is a can gateway upgrade required to avoid battery drain and any errors? I know this is the case when putting a MK6 RCD310/510 into a MK5 Golf so wondered if this is the same with the A3?
    Is there any plugs/wires that need to be changed to fit the above stereo to my existing (single din) loom/plugs?

    5. Last but not least, I will be purchasing a FBMFSW in the near future (but after the double din conversion). I dont currently have a MFSW. Is there anything I need to do whilst I have the dash apart to allow for the buttons to be functional when I get around to this?
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    Hi - unfortunately you are asking an awful lot of questions at one go which tends to put people off answering because they probably don't know all the answers !

    I suggest you read this thread ( and any others that you can do a search for ) and then come back with your questions, maybe a couple at a time.

    ANYONE HELP?? Head Unit - Single Din to Double Din Conversion

    I know for a fact that post 2008 climate control units will not work on a 2005 car.

    I also know that you will need a new steering module for mfsw and, of course, you will have to buy wheel and airbag because your existing airbag will not fit fbmfsw. The control module is under the steering column and does not need the dash off.

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    Re: 2005-2012 Double din conversion

    I know climate control will be works, U just need 2 same, one old and one new facelift . Both must be 2DIN, find electronics who will swap the front panel. Thats all.


    Double din cage 8p0 858 005a
    Generally U have 2 types, that one or other for manual climate control.
    Cage for manual CC is diferent and will be no good 4 U
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel.ireland View Post
    I know climate control will be works, U just need 2 same, one old and one new facelift . Both must be 2DIN, find electronics who will swap the front panel. Thats all.
    Yes mate, I know you can swap the front plate over but I wanted him to be aware that the later version is not plug and play like some people assume it is !

    There is a thread on changing the buttons over somewhere on here but you will also be aware that the buttons are different 'internally' and require a certain amount of Dremel type work to get them to fit ! The OP wants to get the 'new look' apparently !

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    I didnt buy a new climate. I just dremeled the edges to fit. Also i only bought the new switch fascia & altered all the other switched to fit. I did,nt need to buy new switches

    Even my drinks holder fitted with a bit of modding

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackie View Post
    I didnt buy a new climate. I just dremeled the edges to fit. Also i only bought the new switch fascia & altered all the other switched to fit. I did,nt need to buy new switches

    Even my drinks holder fitted with a bit of modding
    That, of course, is the other method of doing it !!

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    Re: 2005-2012 Double din conversion

    double chrom if U want with exactly Your spec what U have now in the car is inposible to get on eBay. Only dealer
    But double chrom frame is with different connectors, is not p&p but any smart electronic will fit that with no problems.

    U can also get single chrom, butons at p&p and later swap only frame to double chrome. I do that in my car. All buttons at separate, in future if U ad for example park asist U can swap only one button not whole frame.
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    Ah ha

    I found the thread

    My pics are a way down the page. You can see it angled the buttons very nicely to match the unit

    ANYONE HELP?? Head Unit - Single Din to Double Din Conversion

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    Re: 2005-2012 Double din conversion

    U needs also this

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Audi-A4-S4-RS...item2a27f05ddb

    All job takes me 4h and that's was my first mod
    No need to change can.

    If U need help - drop me PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel.ireland View Post
    U needs also this

    Audi A4 S4 RS4 A3 S3 A6 RNS-E sat nav installation kit plug&play adapter gps | eBay

    All job takes me 4h and that's was my first mod
    No need to change can.

    If U need help - drop me PM
    Unless I am missing something, he doesnt need this because he is not upgrading to the RNS-E Sat Nav

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    Re: 2005-2012 Double din conversion

    Ok but conectors are the same on back of the radio

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    These are the main questions I need answers to. The others ive basically figured out.

    3. Climate unit. I have purchased an 8P3 facelift climate so I can cannibalise the dials from it and im about to buy a double din pre facelift 8P2 unit. If I buy a pre facelift unit with the heated seat option (i don't have heated seats) can I use this unit with the heated seat buttons not functioning? The reason being I've found one thats nice and cheap.

    4. Concert. I want one similar to this with chrome dials and prefer MP3. I have a concert single din with 10 speakers + sub so I must get the Concert double din, not the Chorus? I really have no use for an RNSE as I dont spend a lot of time in the car. Is there anything I need to be aware of when purchasing, obviously buying one with a code is essential?

    I understand from another thread that NHN posted in that there will be an issue with radio reception. I can live with that if there isn't an easy/cheap fix. Is there any part numbers (perhaps an earlier model) of the above that will fit and avoid the reception issues?
    Is a can gateway upgrade required to avoid battery drain and any errors? I know this is the case when putting a MK6 RCD310/510 into a MK5 Golf so wondered if this is the same with the A3?
    Is there any plugs/wires that need to be changed to fit the above stereo to my existing (single din) loom/plugs?

    5. Last but not least, I will be purchasing a FBMFSW in the near future (but after the double din conversion). I dont currently have a MFSW. Is there anything I need to do whilst I have the dash apart to allow for the buttons to be functional when I get around to this?
    2005 A3 2.0T DSG Oettinger Body Styling, 19" RS5 Reps, APR Stage 1, Forge Twintake, Remus catback, BSH PCV Fix, 034 Motorsport Mounts, WALK, Whiteline bushings (F&R), Whiteline RSB, Whiteline BSK, Whiteline adjustable end links, H&R Sport Cup Kit, Stoptech Drilled Rotors, Hawk Pads, Tyrolsport stainless lines, Tyrolsport Calliper bushings, Tyrolsport DeadSet Subframe kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPK View Post
    These are the main questions I need answers to. The others ive basically figured out.

    3. Climate unit. I have purchased an 8P3 facelift climate so I can cannibalise the dials from it and im about to buy a double din pre facelift 8P2 unit. If I buy a pre facelift unit with the heated seat option (i don't have heated seats) can I use this unit with the heated seat buttons not functioning? The reason being I've found one thats nice and cheap.

    4. Concert. I want one similar to this with chrome dials and prefer MP3. I have a concert single din with 10 speakers + sub so I must get the Concert double din, not the Chorus? I really have no use for an RNSE as I dont spend a lot of time in the car. Is there anything I need to be aware of when purchasing, obviously buying one with a code is essential?

    I understand from another thread that NHN posted in that there will be an issue with radio reception. I can live with that if there isn't an easy/cheap fix. Is there any part numbers (perhaps an earlier model) of the above that will fit and avoid the reception issues?
    Is a can gateway upgrade required to avoid battery drain and any errors? I know this is the case when putting a MK6 RCD310/510 into a MK5 Golf so wondered if this is the same with the A3?
    Is there any plugs/wires that need to be changed to fit the above stereo to my existing (single din) loom/plugs?

    5. Last but not least, I will be purchasing a FBMFSW in the near future (but after the double din conversion). I dont currently have a MFSW. Is there anything I need to do whilst I have the dash apart to allow for the buttons to be functional when I get around to this?
    Did you read my post ? Have I not answered question 5 ?

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    Thank you. For clarification.. I presume that I wont need to change the wiring loom between the steering wheel control module and the back of the Concert stereo for multi function then? Just the controller as you have said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPK View Post
    Thank you. For clarification.. I presume that I wont need to change the wiring loom between the steering wheel control module and the back of the Concert stereo for multi function then? Just the controller as you have said?
    Correct - you do not have to change the loom between the (new) module and the back of the radio.

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    Give me a shout if your still wanting the stereo parts.

    I have the concert stereo, Manual and the two main antenna bits you'll need. These were taken from my 2009 car by NHN when RNSE was installed.

    Good look with the install

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    1. Double din cage: What part numbers will work, taking into account I want the 'hazard button strip' with the chrome strip top and bottom?
    Any 2Din cage, for 8P will work fine.


    2. 'Chrome Hazard button strip': Is there anything I need to be aware of here? I noticed there is an airbag off switch which I presume would just be a dead button? Is there any plugs I need to change or wires that need to be spliced etc for the ESP and hazard switches? There seems to be a few variations/part numbers of this also.
    There is a problem with this strip. You have a connector for hazard lights, a connector for ESP switch, a connector for... TPS.
    The strip only has 2 connectors: one for hazard lights and one for everything else.
    See here: Retrofit RNSE to 8P2 S3

    So, you need to join all the connections into a single one.


    3. Climate unit. I have purchased an 8P3 facelift climate so I can cannibalise the dials from it and im about to buy a double din pre facelift 8P2 unit. If I buy a pre facelift unit with the heated seat option (i don't have heated seats) can I use this unit with the heated seat buttons not functioning? The reason being I've found one thats nice and cheap.
    It will work just fine!

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    Another question. Noticed this eBay seller is staying there is completely different connectors on the later model Concert double din units. Is this correct? I wasn't aware of this. Any easy way around it?
    AUDI A3 2008 MODEL 6 IN DASH MP3 CD CHANGER COMBO EXCELLENT | eBay

    Excuse caps, I copied and pasted.

    ****
    FITS A3 2007-8+

    ALL LOOK SAME BUT HAVE DIFFERENT WIRING 07-8 CDS HAVE NEW QUODLOCK*WIRING* SQUARE SHAPED *

    **** IMPORTANT THIS* MODEL DIFFERENT SHAPE TO EARLIER A3 ETC CARS PLEASE BE*SURE CORRECT MODEL FOR YOUR CAR BEFORE BUYING EARLIER CARS HAVE*ISO WIRING*2 ROWS*OF 8 PIN MALE AND TOP ROW 3 SETS SMALL MALE PINS *******************
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPK View Post
    Another question. Noticed this eBay seller is staying there is completely different connectors on the later model Concert double din units. Is this correct? I wasn't aware of this. Any easy way around it?
    AUDI A3 2008 MODEL 6 IN DASH MP3 CD CHANGER COMBO EXCELLENT | eBay

    Excuse caps, I copied and pasted.

    ****
    You need to get an ISO to Quadlock conversion loom to connect the new unit to the old wiring.

    Search on ebay and you will find dozens !

    EDIT : like this :- AUDI A3 A4 A6 TT ALLROAD RNS-E P&P Adapter QUADLOCK - ISO FAKRA CHORUS CONCERT | eBay
    Last edited by mike foster; 13th February 2013 at 09:54.

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    Re: 2005-2012 Double din conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by daniel.ireland View Post
    U needs also this

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Audi-A4-S4-RS...item2a27f05ddb

    All job takes me 4h and that's was my first mod
    No need to change can.

    If U need help - drop me PM
    I write U week ago about this, buy this one because there is also radio antenna adapter

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    You selling your old one? if so pm me.

 

 

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