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    Question Switching Air Bag from Current Steering Wheel to a New MFSW - Possible?

    Hi All,

    Current Steering Wheel is a bog standard Audi S3 "Round Wheel" with an airbag but no controls.

    I'm looking at getting this:

    OEM AUDI S3 8P Sport Steering wheel - BKS-Tuning

    Which doesn't have an airbag so is it possible to switch my current airbag into this?

    If so is it relatively easy?

    If not where would i get an airbag from (Audi Dealership) & how much roughly are they?

    Thanks for you help in advance people!
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    it wont fit
    ebay or dealers for the round bag
    they go for around £200/250 on the bay
    a lot more at dealers you will also need the airbag loom and maybe swcm for the multifunction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bez101 View Post
    it wont fit
    ebay or dealers for the round bag
    they go for around £200/250 on the bay
    a lot more at dealers you will also need the airbag loom and maybe swcm for the multifunction.
    Cheers for the reply mate. Is the best bet trying to find one with a bag then?

    £200/250 for the bag on it's own is that?!
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    No mfsw will work unless you have the correct steering module - 8P0 953 549 F

    No other will do and neither will the 1K0 version F

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    No mfsw will work unless you have the correct steering module - 8P0 953 549 F

    No other will do and neither will the 1K0 version F
    Does that apply to all 8P1s, 2s and 3s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayT View Post
    Does that apply to all 8P1s, 2s and 3s?
    Yes !

    EDIT : I think some later 8P3's may have steering module version 'K' .
    Last edited by mike foster; 19th January 2013 at 18:27.

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    How late are we talking? Like MY10/11+? Also are the K modules backwards compatible with older 8Ps?

    They seem to be a bit cheaper than the F modules so I was wondering if I could fit one to my MY09 8P3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    No mfsw will work unless you have the correct steering module - 8P0 953 549 F

    No other will do and neither will the 1K0 version F
    Ok cheers for that mate.

    So what do i need for the swap?

    The MFSW, AirBag & Steering Module - 8P0 953 549 F?

    Thanks Again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Ok cheers for that mate.

    So what do i need for the swap?

    The MFSW, AirBag & Steering Module - 8P0 953 549 F?

    Thanks Again!
    MFSW with matching airbag. airbag wiring harness and steering module.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    MFSW with matching airbag. airbag wiring harness and steering module.
    Airbag wiring harness... How much are these roughly? Any specific part number or anything for them.

    Cheers!
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    Part number 8P0 971 589 AC approx £30 from Audi.

    Just to repeat this is not for FBMFSW

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayT View Post
    How late are we talking? Like MY10/11+? Also are the K modules backwards compatible with older 8Ps?

    They seem to be a bit cheaper than the F modules so I was wondering if I could fit one to my MY09 8P3.
    As far as I can ascertain you can use version 'K' ok in your car. Bear in mind it must be 8P0 NOT 1K0 module

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Part number 8P0 971 589 AC approx £30 from Audi.

    Just to repeat this is not for FBMFSW
    Cheers for the replies mate.

    So to clarify:

    1. Audi S3 MFSW - Audi TT TTS TTRS R8 A3 S3 RS3 A4 S4 RS4 A5 S5 A6 RS6 Q7 STEERING WHEEL Sline | eBay
    2. Air Bag that fits with the SW - AUDI A3 S3 RS3 A4 S4 RS4 A6 RS6 TT TTS TTRS R8 Flat Bottom Steering Wheel Airbag | eBay
    3. 8P0 971 589 AC
    4.
    8P0 953 549

    This is all i need to make the switch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Cheers for the replies mate.

    So to clarify:

    1. Audi S3 MFSW - Audi TT TTS TTRS R8 A3 S3 RS3 A4 S4 RS4 A5 S5 A6 RS6 Q7 STEERING WHEEL Sline | eBay
    2. Air Bag that fits with the SW - AUDI A3 S3 RS3 A4 S4 RS4 A6 RS6 TT TTS TTRS R8 Flat Bottom Steering Wheel Airbag | eBay
    3. 8P0 971 589 AC
    4.
    8P0 953 549

    This is all i need to make the switch?
    Did you read my post - I said not for fbmfsw which is what that is !! However, if you buy that airbag the wiring loom is with it.

    It's the bit with the yellow multi-pin plug on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Did you read my post - I said not for fbmfsw which is what that is !! However, if you buy that airbag the wiring loom is with it.

    It's the bit with the yellow multi-pin plug on it.
    Sorry, i don't know what you mean by "fb" mfsw (sorry for my lack of knowledge on the subject ha)

    Ok so I'm guessing the wiring loom is the "harness" you said it may require?

    If i buy the MFSW & That Bag - All i would require would be the 8P0 953 549 F Steering Module? Is that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Sorry, i don't know what you mean by "fb" mfsw (sorry for my lack of knowledge on the subject ha)

    Ok so I'm guessing the wiring loom is the "harness" you said it may require?

    If i buy the MFSW & That Bag - All i would require would be the 8P0 953 549 F Steering Module? Is that right?
    That wheel is 'Flat-Bottom' which is the FB in FBmfsw !

    Yes, if you buy those three items that is all you need but you are looking at £600 +

    Then you need coding with VCDS.

    EDIT: just checked the part number for the airbag in that ebay ad - it does not exist !! That is the part number for the wiring harness but will have suffix letter/s as well.

    Ask seller for the airbag part number and I will check it. Also ask for the wheel part number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    That wheel is 'Flat-Bottom' which is the FB in FBmfsw !

    Yes, if you buy those three items that is all you need but you are looking at £600 +

    Then you need coding with VCDS.
    Haha! My bad! It's obvious after hearing what it means!

    I'm guessing the steering module is fairly pricey then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Haha! My bad! It's obvious after hearing what it means!

    I'm guessing the steering module is fairly pricey then?
    I have edited my previous post - please read !

    Yes the module will be about £100 on ebay and £200 from Audi !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    I have edited my previous post - please read !

    Yes the module will be about £100 on ebay and £200 from Audi !!!
    PM'd you mate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    That wheel is 'Flat-Bottom' which is the FB in FBmfsw !

    Yes, if you buy those three items that is all you need but you are looking at £600 +

    Then you need coding with VCDS.

    EDIT: just checked the part number for the airbag in that ebay ad - it does not exist !! That is the part number for the wiring harness but will have suffix letter/s as well.

    Ask seller for the airbag part number and I will check it. Also ask for the wheel part number.
    Hi mate,

    Wheel Part No: 8P0 419 091 CR
    Airbag: No sticker.

    Look forward to hearing from you,

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Hi mate,

    Wheel Part No: 8P0 419 091 CR
    Airbag: No sticker.

    Look forward to hearing from you,

    Cheers!
    Sounds right - will check in a bit !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Sounds right - will check in a bit !
    Ok mate!

    Seller also advised airbag fits wheel, wouldn't surprise me if it is from the wheel & he is just splitting the sell as you said before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Ok mate!

    Seller also advised airbag fits wheel, wouldn't surprise me if it is from the wheel & he is just splitting the sell as you said before!
    That wheel /airbag is ok so all you need now is the control module and coding !!

    New, the wheel is £550 and the airbag is £760 !

    Try these for modules :- 8P0953549F | eBay

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    That wheel /airbag is ok so all you need now is the control module and coding !!

    New, the wheel is £550 and the airbag is £760 !

    Try these for modules :- 8P0953549F | eBay
    Ok mate, thanks!

    What do think with regards to modules? AUDI A3(8P),TT(8J),GOLF MK5, MULTIFUNCTION STEERING WHEEL MODULE 8P0953549F | eBay

    That ok?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Ok mate, thanks!

    What do think with regards to modules? AUDI A3(8P),TT(8J),GOLF MK5, MULTIFUNCTION STEERING WHEEL MODULE 8P0953549F | eBay

    That ok?
    Yes that's one on the link I sent you - that is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Yes that's one on the link I sent you - that is fine.
    Quality Thanks for all your help bud!

    So that module has everything that's required prior to getting it coded with VCDS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Quality Thanks for all your help bud!

    So that module has everything that's required prior to getting it coded with VCDS?
    Correct !

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Correct !
    Thanks for your input mate.

    I've bought all 3 products, so all i need to do now is get it coded, just to double check it doesn't have to be an Audi dealership that does this does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Thanks for your input mate.

    I've bought all 3 products, so all i need to do now is get it coded, just to double check it doesn't have to be an Audi dealership that does this does it?
    No - check VCDS User map for owners in your area who will be pleased to help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    No - check VCDS User map for owners in your area who will be pleased to help you.
    Just to double check i don't need a new "Slip Ring" aswell do i? (I don't have cruise control, i dont know if this has any bearing on fitting the FBMFSW or the Module i have to buy?

    Look forward to your reply mate!
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    Hi mate, I' m in Maidstone and can code for you if that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbiedondo View Post
    Hi mate, I' m in Maidstone and can code for you if that helps
    Ok mate, give you the run down, i have these parts on the way, FBMFSW, Air bag to fit, &8P0 953 549 F.

    Am i good to go for coding?
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    yes those are all the parts you need, now just need to fit it and code it to your car.
    after coding you will need to do a 'steering angle reset' so make sure who ever is doing that for you knows what that is.

    also since you are changing over the steering module you may as well just get cruise installed as your taking off most of the bits that need to be taken off when doing a cruise install.

    I can do these coding/installs for you if you need? i am only by bluewater so not too far.

    also i know this is a little late to ask but have you got a manual or auto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash187 View Post
    yes those are all the parts you need, now just need to fit it and code it to your car.
    after coding you will need to do a 'steering angle reset' so make sure who ever is doing that for you knows what that is.

    also since you are changing over the steering module you may as well just get cruise installed as your taking off most of the bits that need to be taken off when doing a cruise install.

    I can do these coding/installs for you if you need? i am only by bluewater so not too far.

    also i know this is a little late to ask but have you got a manual or auto?
    Alright mate, its a manual, what parts would i need for cruise control?

    Thanks.
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    just the cruise control stalk which replaces the indicator stalk and the lower cowling that has the cut out for the new stalk.

    if your interested pm me and i can sort out a complete price for you for the parts and fitting inc coding for the lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash187 View Post
    just the cruise control stalk which replaces the indicator stalk and the lower cowling that has the cut out for the new stalk.

    if your interested pm me and i can sort out a complete price for you for the parts and fitting inc coding for the lot.
    PM'd you mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB S3 View Post
    Just to double check i don't need a new "Slip Ring" aswell do i? (I don't have cruise control, i dont know if this has any bearing on fitting the FBMFSW or the Module i have to buy?

    Look forward to your reply mate!
    No - your existing slip ring is the correct one !

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    For anybody reading this thread the part number I quoted in post #12 for the airbag wiring harness is incorrect!!!

    It should read 8P0 971 589 AD. This number superseded suffix AB which in turn superseded Q !!

    Whether AD has now been replaced I don't know. !

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    For anybody reading this thread the part number I quoted in post #12 for the airbag wiring harness is incorrect!!!

    It should read 8P0 971 589 AD. This number superseded suffix AB which in turn superseded Q !!

    Whether AD has now been replaced I don't know. !
    "AD" is still the correct suffix, I ordered one last week when fitting a MFSW

 

 
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