My rather slow progress thread

[Sevv]

Hey guys... well after an eventful year with my 8L S3 that was involved in a big accident ending up being written off sadly i got my self a BWA egined A3 2.0 TQ 2007 8P2 Sportback model

thats my old thread in the 8L section... http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-...0-my-rather-slow-s3-minor-modding-thread.html

so neway after browsing the forum for a good 2 weeks; i had a few questions answered thanks to the "search function"
and now for the list of mods to carry through

On Order:
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R8 Oil Cap -
ECS magnetic sump plug and gearbox plug -
Forge coolant hose kit -
Forge catch can -
Forge diverter valve kit -
ITG Maxogen intake kit -
S3 pedals - £118.58 for brake clutch and acc -
S3 gear knob -
S3 white leather hand brake
S3 flat bottom multi-function Steering Wheel
MY12 rear facelift taillights with adapter
Rear Spoiler -
Forge short shifter

Planned

Dual Surge Pump with 2000CC injectors
WMI
B14 bilstiens; with new top mounts and bearings
H&R ARB's
S3 front and rear bumpers
Miltek turbo back exhuast
GTX3076R with a nice titanium manifold and 3" DP
Custom FMIC
OZ Racing Ultralegerra 17" anthracite wheels
Custom Map
Tarox 6 pot big brake kit
Neuspeed engine carbon cover

however as of now; i really need to change that A3's looks as they are quite horrid S3 bumpers or so much nicer

neway here are a few pics of her... hope you like it and big tank you to Waqi_92, ASH, a3_sline_TDi the very few with a few pics of how they went on with there conversions as for Sarah your front S3 bumper looks ****** amazing !

here is a picture of my old baby she will be missed wish i still had her !!! getting the blues writing this and seeing the pic

 

[Sevv]

i have a few questions to ask sadly; couldn't find it or get a definitive answer searching all the threads im ordering MY 12 face-lift rear tail lights ; however i wanted to know if they would fit the existing rear bumper on the A3 or would i need an 8P3 bumper (wanting an S3 rear bumper /diffuser) ;

another one is concerning the rear spoiler; getting them all from Audi (UK) off Mike at awesome gti would i have any issues fitting it to the A3 being a sport back all i could gather is drilling holes in boot (workshop would be doing that of course )

lastly concerning that S3 dead pedal i found one however not sure if it fits as most of you lads using OSIR pedals neway here is the link...

Original Audi DeadSport Dead Pedal Footrest Audi A3 S3 RS3 8P 8PA +Sportback | eBay

it states it for the A3 S3 RS3 8P / Sport back ; has anyone tried them by any chance ?

 

[Sevv]

any have any advice concerning these questions at all would be really greatly appreciated if anyone can shed some light for me please

 

[JudderMan]

What wheels are those on the S3?

 

[Sevv]

What wheels are those on the S3?

17" O.Z racing ultralegerra's in matt black planning the same ones in anthracite

 

[JudderMan]

Thought so, they look great and even better in anthracite I bet I had Superleggeras on the Honda and they were light as a feather. Might have to price some Ultras up for my car.....

 

[Sevv]

Thought so, they look great and even better in anthracite I bet I had Superleggeras on the Honda and they were light as a feather. Might have to price some Ultras up for my car.....

honestly i think there the best wheels and i would only consider them or BBS CH's

not sure if there is cheaper but i know MIke @ awesomegti can price some up for you around 200-240 Pound mark /wheel they come in 17x7.5 or 17 x 8's which i had on the S3

 

[JudderMan]

Cheers Sevv, I'm hunting around now for prices. I'd prefer to stick with 16s I think. On Performance Alloys.com® - Alloy Wheels - The Alloy Wheel Experts™ it comes to £181 per wheel. 17s start at £223 per wheel.

 

[Sevv]

Cheers Sevv, I'm hunting around now for prices. I'd prefer to stick with 16s I think. On Performance Alloys.com® - Alloy Wheels - The Alloy Wheel Experts™ it comes to £181 per wheel. 17s start at £223 per wheel.

i think 16's would look abit too small... i think but its up to you, i personally would go more then 17's fills the wheel ark nicely

 

[Ash187]

i have a few questions to ask sadly; couldn't find it or get a definitive answer searching all the threads im ordering MY 12 face-lift rear tail lights ; however i wanted to know if they would fit the existing rear bumper on the A3 or would i need an 8P3 bumper (wanting an S3 rear bumper /diffuser) ;

another one is concerning the rear spoiler; getting them all from Audi (UK) off Mike at awesome gti would i have any issues fitting it to the A3 being a sport back all i could gather is drilling holes in boot (workshop would be doing that of course )

lastly concerning that S3 dead pedal i found one however not sure if it fits as most of you lads using OSIR pedals neway here is the link...

Original Audi DeadSport Dead Pedal Footrest Audi A3 S3 RS3 8P 8PA +Sportback | eBay

it states it for the A3 S3 RS3 8P / Sport back ; has anyone tried them by any chance ?

right so the rear lights will work with the bumper you currently have so no need to worry about that.

the spoiler can be fitted without drilling, read here for how i fitted mine which is still stuck on very nicely and looks like it was there from factory : http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-...05-sportback-spoiler-fitting.html#post1000533

most of us here have used the cheap ebay dead pedal as osir version is expensive for what it is... some have modified the ebay one and added some rubber which doesnt look too bad, although the osir one is still very nice.
here is the ebay one: AUDI S3 A3 ST VAG ALLOY FOOTREST PEDAL GTI TURBO FSI | eBay

here is the thread with the modified ones too: http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-sportback-8p-chassis/157585-a3-dead-pedal.html

as for the original one you posted im pretty sure thats for lhd cars as they have a wider dead pedal than us

 

[Sevv]

right so the rear lights will work with the bumper you currently have so no need to worry about that.

the spoiler can be fitted without drilling, read here for how i fitted mine which is still stuck on very nicely and looks like it was there from factory : http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-...05-sportback-spoiler-fitting.html#post1000533

most of us here have used the cheap ebay dead pedal as osir version is expensive for what it is... some have modified the ebay one and added some rubber which doesnt look too bad, although the osir one is still very nice.
here is the ebay one: AUDI S3 A3 ST VAG ALLOY FOOTREST PEDAL GTI TURBO FSI | eBay

here is the thread with the modified ones too: http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-sportback-8p-chassis/157585-a3-dead-pedal.html

as for the original one you posted im pretty sure thats for lhd cars as they have a wider dead pedal than us

thank Ash really appreciate it mate; so as mine is a sport back i just need to remove the boot liner and remove the brake light and thats that as i saw in your thread

 

[Ash187]

Yh remove the brake light but most important are the 3 lugs on the bottom of the spoiler... One on each side and one in the middle. I snapped off the end ones and kept the middle one and then used that middle one to secure the spoiler in position where the old boot light was.
After I was happy that it would fit ok I took the spoiler off the car, applied the tiger seal and the screwed it back into place and held it down with some masking tape... Left it for 24 hours and then that was it.

Hope that made sense

 

[Sevv]

minor update... fitted the gearknob and pedals.. soon to come are face lift tail lights spoiler leather handbrake and OEM LED number plate bulbs

 

[Sevv]

well its been a few months of waiting for parts to arrive from ECS and AwesomeGTI but finally got them.... here are a few pictures...

got my Bilstein PSS9's
Superpro light alloy control arms and anti lift kit
HR sway bars
ECS Dogbone insert .. wished i got the vibra technics ones instead
got the Aluminium matt mirror housings
Rear Facelift tail lights
Rear OEM LED number plate lights
BE S3 grill
Front rear Bumpers with Spoiler (big thanks to Ash for the part numbers!)

to do list...
get it all fitted ...but need time..
OZ 18-9 OZ racing ultraleggera Anthracite
S3 intercooler, discharge pipe
Miltek Full turboback exhaust
Loba Clutch and fuel pump with a map.. before getting the injectors DV and turbo fitted
FBMFSW

 

[S3Alex]

Hi...I missed this thread.

Thats a nice selection of parts,and the suspension upgrades will make a big difference,but while it's in bits,it's worth getting the suspension bushes changed as well.

I see you're planning on fitting a GTX3076 to your car.....I'm guessing you're having the engine rebuilt,as it's not going to be worth the costs otherwise,but whatever you choose,good luck!

 

[Sevv]

Hi...I missed this thread.

Thats a nice selection of parts,and the suspension upgrades will make a big difference,but while it's in bits,it's worth getting the suspension bushes changed as well.

I see you're planning on fitting a GTX3076 to your car.....I'm guessing you're having the engine rebuilt,as it's not going to be worth the costs otherwise,but whatever you choose,good luck!

yeah an engine rebuild with a ported head would be nice.. even been dabbling with idea of a TTRS engine but not sure how that would work would probably need a box to with as well as the loom...

as for the bushes which ones would you recommend changing i was told i didnt need to change the bushes as they werent worn ... i usually like to get the polyurethane bushes.. what would you recommend

 

[S3Alex]

yeah an engine rebuild with a ported head would be nice.. even been dabbling with idea of a TTRS engine but not sure how that would work would probably need a box to with as well as the loom...

as for the bushes which ones would you recommend changing i was told i didnt need to change the bushes as they werent worn ... i usually like to get the polyurethane bushes.. what would you recommend

TTRS engine would require a shed load of work,but as with anything automotive,if you have the money....

I used the Superpro polyurethane bushes,and the do tighten it up and add feel.

If you are even considering a GTX3076,then you really need to rebuild the bottom end at least,as the A3's rods simply are not up to that....even the S3 rods will only reliably run around 440lbs before a rebuild is neccessary.

 

[Sevv]

TTRS engine would require a shed load of work,but as with anything automotive,if you have the money....

I used the Superpro polyurethane bushes,and the do tighten it up and add feel.

If you are even considering a GTX3076,then you really need to rebuild the bottom end at least,as the A3's rods simply are not up to that....even the S3 rods will only reliably run around 440lbs before a rebuild is neccessary.

yeah most likely will be IE tuscan rods ported head with supertec valves and springs and arp head botls not sure about the rings and big end bearings at this stage but should be suffice for 500 550 hp im hoping

 

[S3Alex]

yeah most likely will be IE tuscan rods ported head with supertec valves and springs and arp head botls not sure about the rings and big end bearings at this stage but should be suffice for 500 550 hp im hoping

With those internals,the build should certainly be tough enough,but I think that anything more than 550bhp would be into the territory of a Sorensen intake manifold,extra injectors and an off-board ECU.

I'm not sure what fuel pump arrangements you have in mind,but USP Motorsports make an uprated in-tank pump for the A3(the S3's is already capable of 440bhp,but the A3's isnt)and above that,an auxiliary pump which will take the entire system to around 600bhp worth of flow.

Mine currently runs a bit over 500bhp on a GT3071,with WMI,and I would strongly recommend factoring a WMI system into the build if you havent already.

My next items are a GTX3076,and a Quaife diff and a few other bits,as getting 500bhp+ onto the road with an open diff is interesting.

 

[Sevv]

With those internals,the build should certainly be tough enough,but I think that anything more than 550bhp would be into the territory of a Sorensen intake manifold,extra injectors and an off-board ECU.

I'm not sure what fuel pump arrangements you have in mind,but USP Motorsports make an uprated in-tank pump for the A3(the S3's is already capable of 440bhp,but the A3's isnt)and above that,an auxiliary pump which will take the entire system to around 600bhp worth of flow.

Mine currently runs a bit over 500bhp on a GT3071,with WMI,and I would strongly recommend factoring a WMI system into the build if you havent already.

My next items are a GTX3076,and a Quaife diff and a few other bits,as getting 500bhp+ onto the road with an open diff is interesting.

i have factored WMI in the build however been told that corrosion starts to occur long -term inside the engine using WMI ...

as for the fuel pump im looking at getting the LOBA pump the guys in australia think its a pain in the *** to put one intank .. personally that would be my prefered option and logical choice

had a quaiffe front and rear diff on my 8L S3 trust me the feeling is great you go through 120 degree bends at 100km/h its quite fun to know you wont break traction esp with our especially understeering cars .. when pushed

 

[S3Alex]

i have factored WMI in the build however been told that corrosion starts to occur long -term inside the engine using WMI ...

as for the fuel pump im looking at getting the LOBA pump the guys in australia think its a pain in the *** to put one intank .. personally that would be my prefered option and logical choice

had a quaiffe front and rear diff on my 8L S3 trust me the feeling is great you go through 120 degree bends at 100km/h its quite fun to know you wont break traction esp with our especially understeering cars .. when pushed

I've had Quaife diffs before on my Escort,and as you say,the difference is amazing.

I've never seen any conclusive evidence of corrosion relating to WMI use,but in practice,the amount of time the system is on is usually pretty short.

The Loba HPFP would be ideal,but you still need to address the low pressure end of the system,as it tops out way before an uprated HPFP,and the USP kit works well for that.
Some poeple are using RS3 or RS6 pumps for the LP end,but lots of reports of setup problems.

 

[Sevv]

I've had Quaife diffs before on my Escort,and as you say,the difference is amazing.

I've never seen any conclusive evidence of corrosion relating to WMI use,but in practice,the amount of time the system is on is usually pretty short.

The Loba HPFP would be ideal,but you still need to address the low pressure end of the system,as it tops out way before an uprated HPFP,and the USP kit works well for that.
Some poeple are using RS3 or RS6 pumps for the LP end,but lots of reports of setup problems.

thanks allot .. ill make sure to get it then along witht eh LOBA one... been meaning to ask if i change pumps to the LOBA one without a map. will the car be running rich at all ? as i read conflict reports on LOBA stating its just plug and play depending how far you push the accelerator

 

[S3Alex]

thanks allot .. ill make sure to get it then along witht eh LOBA one... been meaning to ask if i change pumps to the LOBA one without a map. will the car be running rich at all ? as i read conflict reports on LOBA stating its just plug and play depending how far you push the accelerator

The Loba ought to be pretty much plug and play,assuming the engine is mapped to Stg2+ or above,i.e. mapping specific to an uprated pump and other parts.

Drop a line to Simon at Loba if you need help.

Take a close look at www.uspmotorsports.com to see what they have,and drop a line to Gregg Alper for advice prior to buying.

gregg@uspmotorsports.com

You'll find excellent service and support.

 

[Sevv]

The Loba ought to be pretty much plug and play,assuming the engine is mapped to Stg2+ or above,i.e. mapping specific to an uprated pump and other parts.

Drop a line to Simon at Loba if you need help.

Take a close look at www.uspmotorsports.com to see what they have,and drop a line to Gregg Alper for advice prior to buying.

gregg@uspmotorsports.com

You'll find excellent service and support.

yes sure will drop him a line... getting the turbo of them hopefully.. as for the pumps i might been lead to believe its plug and play without a map

 

[S3Alex]

yes sure will drop him a line... getting the turbo of them hopefully.. as for the pumps i might been lead to believe its plug and play without a map

OK.....either way,it's a good pump,and USP Motorsports really impressed me with their help,speed of replies,and quick delivery.

 

[Sevv]

SMALL UPDATE: got the white stick handbrake leather cover, along with A3 8P3 BE air vents... a while back fitted my forge short shifter and ITG magoxen kit and S3 matt alu housings... , also have the engine bay a shower with a painting brush along with tar remover

though id put a photo of my clean engine bay...

however i found this leak which ****** me right off its around the area under the HPFP towards the back of the bay..

 

[Sevv]

So as many of you may know Audi ******** my engine so.. had no choice but an excuse for a full engine rebuild


while i was at it thought id put an LSD, strengthen the bearing synchros , selector fork, and main shaft

get RS4 injectors and fuel regulator , USP intank fuel pump

GT35 that is sat at home will go on

Vibra Technics engine mounts

THS FMIC

WMI

Clutch : NO IDEA what will handle the toque ill be putting out around 600ish ...

Changing all the bushes and slapping the suspension on

and finally slap the new TSW nuburgring wheel and S3 body kit on

Cost: 12,000 AUD

Time 3-4 months am i crying yes i am.. so for starters i took the crank pulley off and inspected the crankshaft here are a few pics..

 

[S3Alex]

Hi Sevv,

Once it's done it will be mighty.

You're going to absolutely love the results,I can promise you.

 

[Sevv]

Hi Sevv,

Once it's done it will be mighty.

You're going to absolutely love the results,I can promise you.

i hope so my aim is to have it back before december given the delays...

im still waiting for a call from Audi australia.. since ive sent them the engine report...

workshop is telling me that ill have massive turbo lag as the turbo kicks in around 4k rpm so not sure im thinking maybe sell it and go something smaller? what do you think

i think there is a new GTX2876R that spools at 2-2.5k rpm basically almost like a K04, or go for the gtx3076r it will spool at 3.5k rpm

 

[turbonutz]

jesus sevv that's a completely different car u have there, toooo much money u guys have

 

[Sevv]

not really mate.. i was supposed to pay my car off by december... not rebuild the whole car unfortunately... it will be a fun car though at the end of it and will deserve the S3 badge

 

[Sevv]

been a while since i updated this thread.. had a raft of parts come in ill have a few pictures up for the engine internals from IE as they are sat at the workshop.. however i got these small bits today

though i must say these injectors dont look OEM to me and im worried about the flow rates and whether they are good OEM quality maybe some one can elaborate the parts came from USP motorsports

AND.... these are the injectors i fear just caused me some problems as the workshop tells me its a risk to fit them esp. when they didn't come in the VW box, neither have the part number, or the VAG symbol on the injector plug.. though i must say on there
website it stats "original equipment supplier" with part number: 079906036D ...


RS4 FSI Fuel Injectors (set of 4)

 

[Sevv]

still waiting on other bits and bobs to come my way from Awesome GTI..

the loba 600 nm clutch kit
Autotech HPFP
cam followers
R8 coil pack , and plugs
fuel filter etc...
THS FR3 complete engine mounting kit
RS4 FPR

 

[S3Alex]

Hi mate...

The injectors look correct,but as you say,there's no packing to support that.

However,the additional pump I bought from USP arrived on time,and worked perfectly,so I can vouch for that side of their operation,and have no reason to expect any less now.

 

[Sevv]

Hi mate...

The injectors look correct,but as you say,there's no packing to support that.

However,the additional pump I bought from USP arrived on time,and worked perfectly,so I can vouch for that side of their operation,and have no reason to expect any less now.

Well i hope that likewise ill have no problems as i don't want to change my engine again its HELL ON EARTH haha thats why im worried and i want to know they are OEM but doesn't seem so sadly could have just plucked them out of awesome gti instead

 

[S3Alex]

Well i hope that likewise ill have no problems as i don't want to change my engine again its HELL ON EARTH haha thats why im worried and i want to know they are OEM but doesn't seem so sadly could have just plucked them out of awesome gti instead

I can see your worry there.

Have you tried dropping Greg Alper a line and finding out why they come minus OEM packing?

Also FWIW,their reviews are consistently good.

 

[Sevv]

I can see your worry there.

Have you tried dropping Greg Alper a line and finding out why they come minus OEM packing?

Also FWIW,their reviews are consistently good.

ill try too i dealt with Jesse Poole <jesse@uspmotorsports.com>

ill try to send him an email also to see why this has happened... ill call them tomorrow morning as emails are some how redundant at times.

i hope it all pans out well as i don't want it to be running lean or rich.. all that starvation issue and when its on boost can be catastrophic

 

[S3Alex]

ill try too i dealt with Jesse Poole<jesse@uspmotorsports.com>

ill try to send him an email also to see why this has happened... ill call them tomorrow morning as emails are some how redundant at times.

i hope it all pans out well as i don't want it to be running lean or rich.. all that starvation issue and when its on boost can be catastrophic

Absolutely,but any problems with fuelling should be apparent when the car is being set up initially.

If you have any problems getting through to Jesse,try Gregg,who was very quick getting back to me.

Rich is obviously a lot safer,and to be honest,mine does run a bit rich,and we found recently that when there was a throttle body problem,it was overfuelling by about 20% at 480bhp,so there was quite a margin.

 

[Sevv]

Absolutely,but any problems with fuelling should be apparent when the car is being set up initially.

If you have any problems getting through to Jesse,try Gregg,who was very quick getting back to me.

Rich is obviously a lot safer,and to be honest,mine does run a bit rich,and we found recently that when there was a throttle body problem,it was overfuelling by about 20% at 480bhp,so there was quite a margin.

yeah thats quite allot of overfuelling to be honest..

just got off the phone with awesome and i wanted to ask you is you miltek catback resonated or non resonated, im debating as its quite a price hike from £290 - £360 pounds so £70 difference between the two.. im just concerned about droning and whether it will be loud as i dont like loud hehe maybe you could grace us with a quick recording of your perhaps ?

 

[S3Alex]

yeah thats quite allot of overfuelling to be honest..

just got off the phone with awesome and i wanted to ask you is you miltek catback resonated or non resonated, im debating as its quite a price hike from £290 - £360 pounds so £70 difference between the two.. im just concerned about droning and whether it will be loud as i dont like loud hehe maybe you could grace us with a quick recording of your perhaps ?

Mine is pretty loud...it's decat/non-res.