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    Steering wheel buttons wrong

    Here's my wheel



    Problem is the dials do not do anything, you have the press the right dial in to decrease the volume and press the left one in to increas the volume.
    The mode and hands free buttons skip tracks.

    Is it possible to reprogram the buttons to the correct use?

    If not has anyone found panels with the correct markings for the steering wheel buttons?

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    What is your steering module part number mate?
    By the look of your indicator and wiper stalks, it seems you have an older module which I am guessing you had the old style single stage airbag MFSW.
    If so, them i am guessing that is what your problem is fella.
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    Hi Danny,

    Thanks for the response.
    I'll nip down and take a gander, where do i find the module please?

    The car is a late 2004 btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerson View Post
    Hi Danny,

    Thanks for the response.
    I'll nip down and take a gander, where do i find the module please?

    The car is a late 2004 btw.
    If you have or know someone with vcds it's quicker than taking the steering wheel off, slip ring and surrounding trim off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A6CR View Post
    If you have or know someone with vcds it's quicker than taking the steering wheel off, slip ring and surrounding trim off.
    Chris is right, best to get VCDS to get the number, although it is possible to get the lower cowling off without removing the wheel and then you can have a look at the part number as it will be on the label pointing down towards the floor.
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    It certainly looks like a retro-fitted MFSW.

    You will need VCDS to code the controller correctly.
    Last edited by Gizmo68; 12th November 2012 at 06:37.
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    Fantastic, thank you all.

    My bro-in-law is a mechanic with his own garage, i know he has several OBD2 programs 1 he tells me works with VAG so i'll pop in during the week and take a gander.

    Are these buttons programmable vis VCDS then?

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    They are not programmable in the fact you cannot change a buttons use for whatever you want it to do, but you can enable or disable them from the factories intended use yes.
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    Steering wheel buttons wrong

    My guess if you have the Golf '1K0' Highline module.

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    Finally managed to get some time to spend on the car earlier this week.
    Carried out a oil and filter change on the DSG, Haldex and motor pretty straight forward really only thing that took time was waiting for the gearbox to cool down enough to get the oil temp right.

    Also had a play with a couple of the software readers in the shop.
    1 was VAScom software that run on a laptop, the other Texa axone direct reader.

    The Texa was a LOT easier to use but my Greek is a bit rusty so sort of cancelled this out.

    Still i managed to get this data, does this make sense to anyone?




    Am i right in saying i have the 8P0953549 module?




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    This is driving me crazy, would really appreciate some help guys please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerson View Post
    Finally managed to get some time to spend on the car earlier this week.
    Carried out a oil and filter change on the DSG, Haldex and motor pretty straight forward really only thing that took time was waiting for the gearbox to cool down enough to get the oil temp right.

    Also had a play with a couple of the software readers in the shop.
    1 was VAScom software that run on a laptop, the other Texa axone direct reader.

    The Texa was a LOT easier to use but my Greek is a bit rusty so sort of cancelled this out.

    Still i managed to get this data, does this make sense to anyone?




    Am i right in saying i have the 8P0953549 module?




    Cheers
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    Yes, you have that module but the crucial bit of information, ie suffix letter is missing. You MUST have suffix F for mfsw.

    You really need vcds to check the full details and check that the coding is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerson View Post

    Problem is the dials do not do anything, you have the press the right dial in to decrease the volume and press the left one in to increas the volume.
    The mode and hands free buttons skip tracks.

    Is it possible to reprogram the buttons to the correct use?

    If not has anyone found panels with the correct markings for the steering wheel buttons?
    Mine does the exact same thing, all retro fitted by me

    Have the same controller (changed from 1K0 jobbie) 8P0 without any suffix, I'm guessing its the same problem, was assured by the seller that it was the right part - did ask if it was the 'F' module and got a yes reply, so not sure what to do now

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Yes, you have that module but the crucial bit of information, ie suffix letter is missing. You MUST have suffix F for mfsw.

    You really need vcds to check the full details and check that the coding is correct.
    Thanks Mike.

    I'll pop in next week and try again with a few other OBD readers, if not i'll order that vagcom.

    Just to clarify if it is a certain suffix can i do anything in vagcom to have the buttons match the labels?


    Quote Originally Posted by Boon View Post
    Mine does the exact same thing, all retro fitted by me

    Have the same controller (changed from 1K0 jobbie) 8P0 without any suffix, I'm guessing its the same problem, was assured by the seller that it was the right part - did ask if it was the 'F' module and got a yes reply, so not sure what to do now
    That sucks, so there was no suffix even when viewed with vagcom?

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    Nope no suffix on either the part code sticker (couldn't see the photo clearly enough before I bought it) or on VCDS just 8P0 953 549

    VCDS will not change what the buttons do, you can only program (coding) the module to tell it it has MFSW. VCDS will display the switching of the buttons to confirm they work, but as said the scroll wheels do nothing and all the buttons are mixed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon View Post
    Nope no suffix on either the part code sticker (couldn't see the photo clearly enough before I bought it) or on VCDS just 8P0 953 549

    VCDS will not change what the buttons do, you can only program (coding) the module to tell it it has MFSW. VCDS will display the switching of the buttons to confirm they work, but as said the scroll wheels do nothing and all the buttons are mixed up
    How is it i can tune and map a standalone ECU in a weekend, yet this vagcom stuff is a struggle to get my head around

    So best case scenario that i have the correct module for the MFSW.
    If i program it via vagcom to tell it that MFSW is connected, will the scroll wheels and correct buttons (as they are labelled) work?

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    No sorry think we are both getting confused here

    With VCDS (vagcom) you can tell the controller if you have a multi function steering wheel or not...

    I have told the controller I have MFSW, and it works as described, and works as yours does now

    If you tell the controller you do not have MFSW nothing will work at all... It's simply on or off, no adjustments can be made

    believe it must be due to the fact of the missing 'F' at the end of the module part code

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    Would anybody know if a later revision module than F will work? Can find 8P0 953 549 H

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon View Post
    No sorry think we are both getting confused here

    With VCDS (vagcom) you can tell the controller if you have a multi function steering wheel or not...

    I have told the controller I have MFSW, and it works as described, and works as yours does now

    If you tell the controller you do not have MFSW nothing will work at all... It's simply on or off, no adjustments can be made

    believe it must be due to the fact of the missing 'F' at the end of the module part code
    Yea sorry i'm trying my best to make sense of it all.

    So the fact that my steering wheel controls work means it's already been told the module is installed then?

    If that's the case and i can't change that setting could someone please explain to me what i would gain by buying vagcom?
    Can i not spend the money instead on a different controller that will work the buttons correctly?


    P.S.
    I do realise that the new module will need to be programmed but i'm told that i can do this with the OBD reader shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon View Post
    Would anybody know if a later revision module than F will work? Can find 8P0 953 549 H
    No mate it won't I'm afraid. The later module Rev K works but it has a different slip ring arrangement I believe for use on later cars. For your 2004 car I believe the ONLY version that works is 'F'. Rev 'H' is for the sportback only with a rev 'A' slip ring.

    As said before, VCDS does not program the buttons, it just tells the module that you have mfsw.

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    Thanks again Mike, if i could test your patience for a few more questions/confirmations i'd be extremely grateful.

    a/ Am i right in saying that the system (is this RSN in this case) needs to be told what MFSW module is in place?

    b/ If that's the case does the fact that my buttons are working (be it not as labelled) mean that someone has already programmed the system to tell it i have this MFSW module?

    c/ I gather from what i've been told so far that if the system wasn't programmed (via vagcom) to know this module was installed the buttons wouldn't work at all?

    d/ Again if that is the case and i can't change the button settings or select another module in vagcom (to enable the buttons to work correctly) and i already know the module is like Boons a 8P0953549 without the suffix, what would i gain from buying vagcom?
    It seems to me all i could do is confirm it's this said module right?

    e/ Is it possible for me to fit a different MFSW module to get all the buttons working as the labels intend?
    (i understand i buy another module i will need to tell the system it's there by using vagcom or some alternative)

    f/ What exactly am i programming with vagcom in this instance, is RSN, the ECU or a general controller?



    Sorry for all the questions, i recon once answered i should have it sorted though

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    Just looked at your pic again. Is that a Tiptronic steering wheel and was your original one Tiptronic ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Just looked at your pic again. Is that a Tiptronic steering wheel and was your original one Tiptronic ?
    Yep both the car and the steering are DSG, i assume the the original was DSG as well but i've only recently bought the car so can't say 100%.

    I can confirm that the paddles, cruise control, indicators etc all work though.

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    Mike. could he have the wrong loom in the s/wheel?

    When I fitted that same wheel to my car, I first got the original horn wires altered to reach the terminals and everything except the buttons worked even though the plugs to them matched. Got the correct loom for that air-bag and wheel and all works properly.

    Mine was a 4 spoke wheel with the shield air-bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fangio View Post
    Mike. could he have the wrong loom in the s/wheel?

    When I fitted that same wheel to my car, I first got the original horn wires altered to reach the terminals and everything except the buttons worked even though the plugs to them matched. Got the correct loom for that air-bag and wheel and all works properly.

    Mine was a 4 spoke wheel with the shield air-bag.
    Fangio, that is exactly what I have been researching for the last hour ! If he has Tiptronic then I'm almost certain the module will be ok. That only leaves the airbag loom and coding.

    I'm a bit concerned that the original airbag may have been single stage but maybe we'll never know!

    Gixerson, I need your VIN to try and find your original wheel/airbag. According to ETKA a fbmfsw with paddles was not available for a 2004 which indicates to me that it might not be compatible.

    Also is the car a sportback ?

    PM me the VIN if you don't want to publish it.

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    Could do with some wring diagrams for the looms to see if they are different, I know mine do not match in colours but they light up and work as described

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    Well the vagcom finally arrived today, if you ever find yourself in Greece do not under any circumstances have anything sent by fedex.

    So i did a scan and have spoken with Mike via PM, it seems that my problems with the steering wheel CD controls are just the tip of the iceberg as the scan came back with many errors.

    Friday,18,January,2013,18:14:07:40523
    VCDS Version: Release 11.11.5
    Data version: 20121222


    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56
    57 76 77

    VIN: ************ Mileage: 101370km/62988miles

    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
    Part No SW: 022 906 032 CB HW: Bas isX 3
    Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G 5604
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUX7Z0D2FNC08Y
    Coding: 0000178
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 4D91A0E2D44F55709AA

    4 Faults Found:
    18025 - Glow Plug Pre-Heat Indicator (K29)
    P1617 - 001 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
    P0113 - 002 - Signal too High - Intermittent
    17755 - Camshaft Position Sensor 2 (G163) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
    P1347 - 002 - Incor. Correl. - Intermittent
    16955 - Brake Switch (F)
    P0571 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0000 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
    Part No SW: 02E 300 046 D HW: 02E 927 770 L
    Component: GSG DSG 0606
    Revision: 03149888 Serial number: 00000403030079
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 183F01B62B0DE0D8F9C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 379 E
    Component: ESP ALLRAD MK60 0103
    Coding: 0021128
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 3467D50657A524B8F54

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 G HW: 8P0 820 043 G
    Component: KlimavollautomatH12 0150
    Revision: 001575 Serial number: 8P0820043G
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 306FD916A3BD189891C

    1 Fault Found:
    01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364)
    013 - Check DTC Memory
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101101
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 31
    Mileage: 98142 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.04.17
    Time: 00:01:13

    Freeze Frame:
    ON


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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 D HW: 8P0 907 279 D*
    Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H28 0601
    Revision: 00028000 Serial number: 00000000408244
    Coding: A78EDF0181141000000000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 3E73F72E69E9FEE8130

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P1 955 119 C Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0180
    Coding: 16711696
    Shop #: WSC 00000

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 D HW: 8P0 959 655 D
    Component: Airbag 8.4ED H00 0140
    Coding: 0410602
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 438586DA020B93007CE

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 HW: 8P0 953 549
    Component: Lenksäulenmodul H11 0020
    Coding: 0014142
    Shop #: WSC 01100 207 64666
    VCID: FBF5BE3ABA7BABC0F4E

    Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: Lenkradmodul H06 0030

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 G HW: 8P0 920 930 G
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140
    Revision: D09 Serial number: 2242DD09025757
    Coding: 0001013
    Shop #: WSC 05050 207 11088
    VCID: 3663EF0E41D936A8CB0

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-815-005.clb
    Part No: 1K0 815 005 DL
    Component: Heizgeraet H06 0010
    Revision: E Serial number: 09005947
    Coding: 0001112
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 6FED1A6A7E034760C86

    5 Faults Found:
    02245 - Connection; RF Remote Control
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:

    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 14
    Reset counter: 159
    Mileage: 83204 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:22:25

    01305 - Databus for Infotainment
    014 - Defective - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101110
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 158
    Mileage: 83201 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:16:35

    01305 - Databus for Infotainment
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101110
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 158
    Mileage: 83201 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:16:35

    00003 - Control Module
    014 - Defective
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101110
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 158
    Mileage: 83201 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:16:35


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: Gateway H08 0100
    Revision: 08 Serial number: 25001042230667
    Coding: FF0F17DA070100
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 285F31769B6D505849C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 554
    Component: HALDEX 4Motion 0101
    Coding: 0000001
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: EADB8B7EC5E122481F8

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 G HW: 8P0 920 930 G
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140
    Revision: D09 Serial number: AUX7Z0D2FNC08Y
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 3663EF0E41D936A8CB0

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 HW: 8P0 035 192
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H44 0660
    Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7D0001353
    Coding: 0225218
    Shop #: WSC 63481 512 00000
    VCID: ECD78D66CF153C786D4

    2 Faults Found:
    02261 - Data Medium
    014 - Defective
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01111110
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 12
    Reset counter: 95
    Mileage: 100679 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.11.26
    Time: 21:00:48

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 101040 km
    Count: 2812
    Clock: 09:49

    02444 - Disk Drive Load / Eject Malfunction
    000 - - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 126
    Mileage: 100874 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.12.08
    Time: 13:42:39


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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 801
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0010
    Coding: 0000120
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: F8FFA1368B4D80D899C

    No fault code found.

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    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K1 909 144 F
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.10 1301
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2E53C76EB9890E68830

    No fault code found.

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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433
    Component: KSG H02 0040
    Coding: 188800186D288505484AC67000
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: F9F9A432B04799D0E62

    Part No: 1K0 951 605 A
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H01 1201

    Part No: 1K0 907 719
    Component: Neigungssensor 003 0003

    Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0010

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P3 035 382 HW: 8P3 035 382
    Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH25 0160
    Revision: 00003 Serial number: 10000001107222
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: F0EF9916E33DD89851C

    No fault code found.

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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MAX1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 802
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0010
    Coding: 0000120
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: F9F9A432B04799D0E62

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 907 357 A
    Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number:
    Coding: 0000002
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 387FE1364BCDC0D8D9C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 HW: 8P0 035 192
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H44 0660
    Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7D0001353
    Coding: 0225218
    Shop #: WSC 63481 512 00000
    VCID: ECD78D66CF153C786D4

    2 Faults Found:
    02261 - Data Medium
    014 - Defective
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01111110
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 12
    Reset counter: 95
    Mileage: 100679 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.11.26
    Time: 21:00:48

    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 101040 km
    Count: 2812
    Clock: 09:49

    02444 - Disk Drive Load / Eject Malfunction
    000 - - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 126
    Mileage: 100874 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.12.08
    Time: 13:42:39




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    So i started the thread to see if i could get the steering wheel CD control buttons to operate in the same method as the labels say, NOW my main worry is if the airbag is operational.

    I would greatly apriciate any advice on the list of errors, but my main priority now is to ensure the correct operation of the airbag.

    Any ideas please?

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    Out of my depth I'm afraid but does anybody recognise the airbag coding at address 15 ?

    Retro-fitting a fbmfsw to an '04 DSG that had a 4 spoke single stage bag - how does that work with that coding ?

    NHN please ????

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    I'm most interested in the panel on the rear of the wheel that
    has no badging. I want one so I can debadge my MFBSW on my S3.
    Anybody have a part number?
    2009 S3 3 door. Phantom Black metallic.
    RNS-E, Tints, Piano Black inlays, Auto Lights and Wipers, Bluetooth, MFBSW,
    White Alcantara, LED numberplate lights, Black Optic Grille, Yellow Foglamps,
    K&N panelfilter, Colourmatched mirrors, S3 footplate,
    More to come....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike foster View Post
    Out of my depth I'm afraid but does anybody recognise the airbag coding at address 15 ?

    Retro-fitting a fbmfsw to an '04 DSG that had a 4 spoke single stage bag - how does that work with that coding ?

    NHN please ????
    You've been a massive help Mike for which i'm extremely grateful


    Should clarify though that i would still appreciate some help with these errors and clearing them up, but right now the buttons are low on my priority list.

    In order of preference i would be grateful with in any in sorting out:

    1/ Getting the airbag working and working correctly

    2/ Clearing up the majority of those errors

    3/ Then getting the steering wheels CD player buttons working correctly


    I do have a couple of questions as well.

    When i took the log i did 2 datalog scans, the first was with the engine off the second with the engine running, looking at the log times i'm pretty sure the log i posted was the one taken with the motor running.
    Long shot i know but does this make any difference?

    Secondly,
    Are these errors picked up during the scan (i.e. is each module tested as it's scanned) or are these errors problems that have occured and are stored in the memory?

    If it's the later how can i clear the errors?

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    Ok, been doing some reading up and research.

    Seems that apart from the radio errors which are due to the car coming with a copied navigation DVD all the errors are from last year or the year before.

    Aparently i can clear these errors with vagcom, so i'll have a better look through the software tomorrow.


    So right now my main concern is:

    Will the airbag work with that controller?

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    Clear all errors within each faulting module, then comeback & show us the faulting module logs only, then we can work on it.

    OEM RETROFITS - CRUISE CONTROL - SAT NAV - BLUETOOTH - AMI - HEADLIGHT SYSTEMS

    PARKING SYSTEMS - DIAGNOSTICS - FAULT FINDING - BODYWORK - PAINTWORK

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Clear all errors within each faulting module, then comeback & show us the faulting module logs only, then we can work on it.
    Thanks for helping out Nige - it's way beyond my pay grade !!!

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    Havnt helped anything yet mate lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Havnt helped anything yet mate lol.
    You will mate - you will !!! lol

    Maybe a trip across to Greece next time you're in Italy ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Clear all errors within each faulting module, then comeback & show us the faulting module logs only, then we can work on it.
    Much appreciated, thank you.
    Unfortunately i only read your post after i'd carried out a "Clear all DTC's"

    Carried out a scan after but i still had old errors in

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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 G HW: 8P0 820 043 G
    Component: KlimavollautomatH12 0150
    Revision: 001575 Serial number: 8P0820043G
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 306FD916A3BD189891C

    1 Fault Found:
    01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364)
    013 - Check DTC Memory
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101101
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 31
    Mileage: 98142 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.04.17
    Time: 00:01:13

    Freeze Frame:
    ON


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    And

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    Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-815-005.clb
    Part No: 1K0 815 005 DL
    Component: Heizgeraet H06 0010
    Revision: E Serial number: 09005947
    Coding: 0001112
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 6FED1A6A7E034760C86

    5 Faults Found:
    02245 - Connection; RF Remote Control
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:

    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 14
    Reset counter: 159
    Mileage: 83204 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:22:25

    01305 - Databus for Infotainment
    014 - Defective - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101110
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 158
    Mileage: 83201 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:16:35

    01305 - Databus for Infotainment
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101110
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 158
    Mileage: 83201 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:16:35

    00003 - Control Module
    014 - Defective
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101110
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 158
    Mileage: 83201 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2011.05.19
    Time: 13:16:35


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    Neither the "Clear all DTB's nor clearing the errors in the module cleared these errors they are still there.

    Please correct me if i'm wrong but i believe the aux heater is the device that preheats the car in winter conditions?
    I have a 3rd remote that's a lot bigger than the keys, plus is the DIS i have an option for setting a time for a aux heater to activate and turn off.

    If this is the culprit i'm fairly certain it's disconnected as there are some fuses and wires in the engine bay that have been disconnected.

    Not much of a need for a engine pre-heater in Greece so i'm happy to disable this if it fixes the error.

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    Done some searching and faffing and it is indeed the Aux heater that is disconnected.

    So is it possible that they didn't disable it in the software straight after disconnecting it, hence the fault codes?
    Oddly enough though the option is STILL available in the DIS


    To my admittedly limited knowledge as far as vagcom goes, it doesn't seem like they are errors that are worth worrying about as they only occurred once to 5 times and the last was over 2 years ago.
    Any ideas why i can't reset them?


    So unless i'm missing something (highly possible) it doesn't seem that those errors are anything to worry about.
    IF that is the case i would like to concentrate on 2 things in order of relevance please?

    1/ Is it possible to tell if my airbag is correct, and will operate correctly?

    2/ As my first post before i took the red pill and wandered into the wizard of vagcom
    Is it possible to get my steering wheel buttons to operate as per the labels?
    If so what is needed please?



    Cheers
    Mark

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    Mark > Going back to your original question, if you need some new labels making up for the buttons so they show what the buttons actually do, this is something I could help with

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerson View Post

    1/ Is it possible to tell if my airbag is correct, and will operate correctly?

    2/ As my first post before i took the red pill and wandered into the wizard of vagcom
    Is it possible to get my steering wheel buttons to operate as per the labels?
    If so what is needed please?



    Cheers
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    1/ not sure, sorry

    2/ You need 8P0 953 549 F steering module

    You should also be able to clear the faults with AUX heater etc by disabling the coding then clear the faults

 

 
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