A question for all you Tuners??

DJ-S3 · Jul 2, 2012

Hi, basically my car (Audi S3 56Plate) is going for a revo stage 2 (yes i know it's not stage 2+ but its only 50quid) on friday, i have a sps switch and i was wondering whether they'd be able to set my sps switch so that performance A is stage 1 remap and performance B is stage 2?

Do you think they'd be able to do that and if not why? Surely someone's thought of this before me....

Thanks in advance

Dom

mjr901 · Jul 2, 2012

Not sure there's a huge difference between stage 1+2 anyway though? it's basically. just to switch off that EML light?

S3Alex · Jul 2, 2012

What they can do is to give you a couple of different settings which will feel much the same as what you're after.

Stage2+ is probably the best bang for your buck but as you say,will cost more.

DJ-S3 · Jul 2, 2012

mjr901 said:
Not sure there's a huge difference between stage 1+2 anyway though? it's basically. just to switch off that EML light?

I know there's not a huge difference but there must be some as people seem to say their clutches went immediately at stage 2 but was fine at stage 1.

I just think it would be nice to have all the stages on the sps switch.

mjr901 · Jul 2, 2012

Yeah suppose the choice would be nice.

Theyll just perhaps tell you some values to use on the sps. i.e turn the boost/fuel down etc. so effectively de-tune stage 2 down a bit.

S3Alex · Jul 2, 2012

DJ-S3 said:
I know there's not a huge difference but there must be some as people seem to say their clutches went immediately at stage 2 but was fine at stage 1.I just think it would be nice to have all the stages on the sps switch.

As before,you won't get the various stages,but you can simply have the boost levels on each setting different.
It's torque that kills the stock clutch,and it's limit seems to be around 320-330lbs.

DJ-S3 · Jul 2, 2012

S3Alex said:
As before,you won't get the various stages,but you can simply have the boost levels on each setting different.
It's torque that kills the stock clutch,and it's limit seems to be around 320-330lbs.

What torque would it be running with the stage 2 then?

mjr901 said:
Yeah suppose the choice would be nice.

Theyll just perhaps tell you some values to use on the sps. i.e turn the boost/fuel down etc. so effectively de-tune stage 2 down a bit.

Is that all the remap is? Because i could of bought a wire that connected to my laptop and done it myself with some advice on here lol

Yeah would be nice but if its not possible then nevermind.

S3Alex · Jul 2, 2012

DJ-S3 said:
What torque would it be running with the stage 2 then?Is that all the remap is? Because i could of bought a wire that connected to my laptop and done it myself with some advice on here lolYeah would be nice but if its not possible then nevermind.

Firstly,a proper remap is a whole lot more than a bit of poking around with a laptop......you need to take into account fuelling,timing and boost plus intake and EGTs as well....plus a lot more.
Stg2 torque varies but usually peaks at up to 350-360lbs,but will drop off quite sharply in the midrange,as the stock HPFP will be running a bit short,and thats the aim of Stg2+,to iron that out by using an uprated HPFP.

mjr901 · Jul 2, 2012

I'm sure there's more to it really. You've got the added bonus of the intake which obviously...more air more bang, so I guess values are changed in the software somewhere. Then the exhaust is less restrictive also again values would probably change to account for this.

But hell I'm no tuner, im just the tuneÃ© if you like.

i had stage 1 from chip tuning on my previous s3 8p. it was violent and pretty powerful...for about 2 seconds....

After this stage 2 update I had a few days ago with shark. my S3 is now in a different league to what my old one was. So there must be more to it really than just switching the light off.

But unless you've got a good deal, which you have,, and i did, I'd stick with the stage 1 or 2+ way of thinking. and miss 2 out altogether.

S3Alex · Jul 2, 2012

As mjr901 has said,Stg2+ is the best overall value,as you'll find the torque dip on Stg2 is noticeable(or at least I did),but you need the exhaust,intake and fuel pump for that.
The great thing about this car is that there are parts and maps for every requirement,from 310bhp to over 600bhp,and reliability as well.

DJ-S3 · Jul 3, 2012

I've got the intake and the exhaust (well trying to get the decat part fitted beofre friday) and the uprated dump valve. I don't quite have the funds for the hpfp as i'm going on holiday in 2weeks.

S3Alex · Jul 3, 2012

DJ-S3 said:
I've got the intake and the exhaust (well trying to get the decat part fitted beofre friday) and the uprated dump valve. I don't quite have the funds for the hpfp as i'm going on holiday in 2weeks.

In that case,you're most of the way there.

The pump does make a noticeable difference,as while it may not increase PEAK power and torque,it does smooth out the torque delivery across the mid and upper range,which otherwise drops off quite a bit.

DJ-S3 · Jul 3, 2012

Yes i am

new clutch and hpfp the stage 2+. I've seen on here something about another fuel pump in the tank? Is that needed?

S3Alex · Jul 3, 2012

DJ-S3 said:
Yes i am new clutch and hpfp the stage 2+. I've seen on here something about another fuel pump in the tank? Is that needed?

The stock in-tank pump is good for up to 440bhp.
You do NOT need an auxiliary or uprated pump until you get above that.

DJ-S3 · Jul 3, 2012

Nice one!! What do you think about second hand hpfp's?

S3Alex · Jul 3, 2012

DJ-S3 said:
Nice one!! What do you think about second hand hpfp's?

Personally I wouldnt.......I'd get the Autotech internals fitted by someone who knows what he's doing and go with that.
I've had one for 30 000 miles.

DJ-S3 · Jul 3, 2012

Ok. best start saving after i've got the clutch done.

N8 · Jul 3, 2012

You want stage 1 or stage 3, depending which software you chose.

DJ-S3 · Jul 5, 2012

How long does it take to change a dowpipe? I was thinking and hour max? Garage just rang me and said 4hours!!! I said don't touch my car, i'll come get it.

S3Alex · Jul 5, 2012

DJ-S3 said:
How long does it take to change a dowpipe? I was thinking and hour max? Garage just rang me and said 4hours!!! I said don't touch my car, i'll come get it.

It's a fiddly job.

Means getting behind the engine to the turbo which is in a very tight place and is a pain to get at.

mjr901 · Jul 5, 2012

lol 4hrs!!!! it's an hour tops!!

3 bolts on the diff, push to oneside which leaves room for the downpipe to riggle past then just the bolts on the downpipe which is bolted to turbo, can be fiddly and the nuts are properly stiff to get off as there like an industrial lock nuts on there and they sort of weld themselves on!

the rest of the exhaust is just clamps and hangers etc so its an easy job as long as you have a ramp to be honest!

DJ-S3 · Jul 5, 2012

mjr901 said:
lol 4hrs!!!! it's an hour tops!!

3 bolts on the diff, push to oneside which leaves room for the downpipe to riggle past then just the bolts on the downpipe which is bolted to turbo, can be fiddly and the nuts are properly stiff to get off as there like an industrial lock nuts on there and they sort of weld themselves on!

the rest of the exhaust is just clamps and hangers etc so its an easy job as long as you have a ramp to be honest!

I thought it'd be an hour tops too!! Thats why i told them where to go and told them not to touch my car!! ha. I said if i had a lift and the tools i'd do it myself in an hour!! And i'm no mechanic!

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