Sky InsuranceBadger5
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 41 to 80 of 108
  1. #41
    paddy's Avatar
    Audi=No fault code, no idea

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    5,135
    Most are like prostitutes too....pay as you en...oh forget it
    Ibis white Revo S3 and now matching Vivaro LWB HR 2900 :-)

    Many people are alive because its illegal to shoot them.

  2. # ADS
    ADS
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Global
    Posts
    Many
     
  3. #42
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    Most are like prostitutes too....pay as you en...oh forget it
    Unless you've got an Oyster Card... ;-) my this thread is being hijacked!

    Back on Topic Diesel 170 Quattro

  4. #43
    FranA3's Avatar
    events moderator

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    south wales
    Posts
    7,124
    Quote Originally Posted by musicegbdf View Post
    Ok I took delivery of my TDI 170 quattro sport on 15th Dec. As to first impression.
    Fuel consumption - great. Still less than 700 miles on the clock and getting average of 43 MPG around town and 55 MPG on a run.
    Performance - Impressive once rolling 20 mph onwards. 0 -20 using first gear not too great feels like the gearing is wrong. Not tried it yet but pulling away in 2nd might be better, but do not want to load my new engine.
    Handling - sticks well to the road.
    Build quality - It is an Audi.

    Now to the Petrol Vs Deisel. As you are moving to Scotland one big point. A deisel /4wd is the best car to drive in snow/ice. MY previous cars have all been 4WD , and my wife drove a lot in the heavy snow over the last few weeks and she said she has never felt so safe in a car in these conditions.

    I am sure the Petrol is great fun , but as a work horse that can still put a smile on your fact , go for the 170 deisel....
    mpg should get better the more you drive it they are allways not that good when new a guy in work used to have a a4 1.9tdi avant on a p plate it had done 270.000 miles and it was still cracking out well over 65 mpg so they are like a fine wine they get better with age lol
    ​She is back on the road yay!!

  5. #44
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    Most are like prostitutes too....pay as you en...oh forget it
    I always enter via the back door when they're not looking.


    Works with buses too.

  6. #45
    FranA3's Avatar
    events moderator

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    south wales
    Posts
    7,124
    Quote Originally Posted by aythreee View Post
    I always enter via the back door when they're not looking.


    Works with buses too.
    lmfao
    ​She is back on the road yay!!

  7. #46
    pi quattro's Avatar
    1st Gear

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ayrshire
    Posts
    127
    What a laugh!

    In my [I]humble[I] opinion tdi 170 quattro wins hands down

    One important fact is that guy asking the question is moving to Scotland! The roads here are slippy for at least 50% of the time, never mind the snow. (rain+cow/sheep **** = slide factor 9/10, quattro required)

    I could also assume that the roads will be twistier in Scotland and as said previously, quattro makes for better progress.

    Also I think that torquey nature of a diesel is better for towing.

    Aythreee - this guys "real world driving" might well be in the twisties if he moves up here. Trust me I LOVE burning 2.0t on wet cobbled roads in Edinburgh in my 170 tdi quattro. It happens...
    current -
    07 A3 TDI 170 quattro
    rnse,leather,auto lights & mirrors,bose,sunroof,xenons, etc

    previous-
    06 A3 2.0TDI sport quattro - rolled & gone
    06 A3 2.0T sportback dsg leather - gone
    06 A3 2.0TDI sport -gone
    01 1.8T GTI -gone
    01 A4 TDI 130 - gone

  8. #47
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    Nicely put PI. Seems we have similar views..and car taste... and also a 1.8T Gti 10 years ago!

  9. #48
    pi quattro's Avatar
    1st Gear

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ayrshire
    Posts
    127
    Like your new order pilot, my dream car! Driven lots of cars and can't really say I will stray from a quattro tdi for anything.

    Don't know why you can't get a 170 tdi quattro with DSG? that would be a winner for me!
    current -
    07 A3 TDI 170 quattro
    rnse,leather,auto lights & mirrors,bose,sunroof,xenons, etc

    previous-
    06 A3 2.0TDI sport quattro - rolled & gone
    06 A3 2.0T sportback dsg leather - gone
    06 A3 2.0TDI sport -gone
    01 1.8T GTI -gone
    01 A4 TDI 130 - gone

  10. #49
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by pi quattro View Post
    What a laugh!

    In my [I]humble[I] opinion tdi 170 quattro wins hands down

    One important fact is that guy asking the question is moving to Scotland! The roads here are slippy for at least 50% of the time, never mind the snow. (rain+cow/sheep **** = slide factor 9/10, quattro required)

    I could also assume that the roads will be twistier in Scotland and as said previously, quattro makes for better progress.

    Also I think that torquey nature of a diesel is better for towing.

    Aythreee - this guys "real world driving" might well be in the twisties if he moves up here. Trust me I LOVE burning 2.0t on wet cobbled roads in Edinburgh in my 170 tdi quattro. It happens...
    Ok ok, maybe the slimy streets of Scotland will prove too much for a FWD 2.0T (a Quattro 2.0T will burn you though)... but on normal un cow/sheep sh*tted, uncobbled (etc etc) streets... i.e. pretty much the rest of the UK........ all you'll be seeing through your TDI windscreen are undriven rear wheels disappearing into the distance.
    Which is kind of what this thread (as usual) moved on to.


  11. #50
    pi quattro's Avatar
    1st Gear

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ayrshire
    Posts
    127
    Lmao!
    current -
    07 A3 TDI 170 quattro
    rnse,leather,auto lights & mirrors,bose,sunroof,xenons, etc

    previous-
    06 A3 2.0TDI sport quattro - rolled & gone
    06 A3 2.0T sportback dsg leather - gone
    06 A3 2.0TDI sport -gone
    01 1.8T GTI -gone
    01 A4 TDI 130 - gone

  12. #51
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    Unless you've owned a 170TDi Quattro you won't know how great they are in 'Real Life' driving situations...... 4th 8P and 3rd 8P Quattro on its way...

  13. #52
    Ben H's Avatar
    On a journey...

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    The West
    Posts
    373
    A 2.0T and 2.0TDi will both generate a good amount of torque at low revs - possibly even the same sort of power at 3-4,000rpm. But take it past that and the petrol will continue pumping out more power, while the TDi will need another gear to access a lower amount of peak power again.

    That's why a TDi will be just fine keeping up with most petrols for 20mph sprint increments, but also why they're not first choice for drag strip or longer on-the-move accelerative bursts.
    S3 Sportback S-Tronic (2010) - Brilliant Red
    Technology Pack (RNSE 2, Bluetooth, 6-CD stack), BOSE, roof rails, 2 child seats and 310bhp



  14. #53
    paddy's Avatar
    Audi=No fault code, no idea

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    5,135
    Yea but a petrol needs to chang gears more than a diesel. It might have more revs but it needs 6k revs to do what a Deisal does in 4k revs. If what you are saying is true then a derv would need 8 gears to reach the same top speed as a 6 speed petrol. They simply give it taller gears because its pumping more torque and can go further in each gear for less revs
    Last edited by paddy; 7th January 2011 at 09:01.
    Ibis white Revo S3 and now matching Vivaro LWB HR 2900 :-)

    Many people are alive because its illegal to shoot them.

  15. #54
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    Unless you've owned a 170TDi Quattro you won't know how great they are in 'Real Life' driving situations...... 4th 8P and 3rd 8P Quattro on its way...
    I'm not saying they aren't great, I'm just saying that 2.0TFSI > 170TDI.

    We can debate this until the cows come home, but the bottom line is... in the VAST majority of "everyday driving" scenarios the 2.0T, even in FWD, is a higher performing car.

  16. #55
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    Yea but a petrol needs to chang gears more than a diesel.
    Surely its the other way around?
    A petrol could get to say 50mph with one gear change (1st/2nd), but a diesel would need three changes (1st/2nd/3rd).

  17. #56
    1st Gear

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    113
    Quote Originally Posted by pi quattro View Post
    Don't know why you can't get a 170 tdi quattro with DSG? that would be a winner for me!
    I've been wondering about that. I wonder if the DSG has problems handling the Torque. Though suspect someone will tell me that they use the DSG on engines with more torque.
    I agree DSG would be a nice option.

    Coming back to Petrol vs Deisel. Both arguments are right. They are right for what the person wanted from the car. If outright performance is what you want then suspect petrol is better. If you want economy a 1.6 deisel (if they still make them) will do. To me it is a compromise, but the idea of a car that does 0 -60 in under 8 seconds with a double speed limit top speed , that has 4 WD and still gives 55 MPG and low emmissions really became a no brainer - For Me-
    I have done a fair amount of driving over the years including 4 years club circuit racing(Bikes) and done performance driving courses ( I used to be an advanced driving instructor/examinor -Bikes) , skid control courses and a number of off road courses. So both performance and slippery driving are no stranger to me, and for slippery driving I found my Deisel Discovery Auto was the very best control you can have , but the best fun was on a bike ---ahh can smell the Castrol R right now ---
    Arrived 15 Dec 2010 A3 sportback TDI 170 Quattro sport in Ibis white.

  18. #57
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    Quote Originally Posted by aythreee View Post
    I'm not saying they aren't great, I'm just saying that 2.0TFSI > 170TDI.

    We can debate this until the cows come home, but the bottom line is... in the VAST majority of "everyday driving" scenarios the 2.0T, even in FWD, is a higher performing car.
    We have had 8P 2.0FSi, 8P 2.0TFsi Quattro, then 2.0Tdi 170 Quattro which was so great in comparison to the TFSi we are buying another one...I don't think the 2.0T FSi with FWD is that great with torque steer, spinning wheels and crap fuel economy. Sorry

  19. #58
    paddy's Avatar
    Audi=No fault code, no idea

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    5,135
    Quote Originally Posted by aythreee View Post
    Surely its the other way around?
    A petrol could get to say 50mph with one gear change (1st/2nd), but a diesel would need three changes (1st/2nd/3rd).
    Well looking at your figures if 1st to 2nd is one change then 1st to 2nd to 3rd is 2 changes......

    The way i see it is if the derv needs more gear changes to reach a speed then it must have more gears to reach the top speed of the petrol....but it dosnt does it
    Last edited by paddy; 7th January 2011 at 16:31.
    Ibis white Revo S3 and now matching Vivaro LWB HR 2900 :-)

    Many people are alive because its illegal to shoot them.

  20. #59
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    We have had 8P 2.0FSi, 8P 2.0TFsi Quattro, then 2.0Tdi 170 Quattro which was so great in comparison to the TFSi we are buying another one...I don't think the 2.0T FSi with FWD is that great with torque steer, spinning wheels and crap fuel economy. Sorry
    Forget economy, i'm talking about performance. And you saying the TDI Q is so great in comparison to the TFSI Q is laughable.

    As for the FWD... torque steer is slight, wheels really only light up in 1st if hammered from stand still, but this is pretty easy to prevent without take off suffering by anything noticable.

    I can easily reach 60 in under 7 seconds, everytime, with all the "torque steer" and "spinning wheels" you speak of. Yeah its going to be a bit slower in the wet, but still quicker than a 170.

    Handling at full pelt around bends and roundabouts won't be as good as the TDI Q, granted. But that's a rare occurence. Handling is EASILY good enough for "sensible" fast speeds through the two.

    Sooo.... taken to the limits of handling (do any of us really do this??), of course a quattro is going to come out tops, but realistically speaking for even fast driving on the roads of today........

    Quote Originally Posted by aythreee View Post
    in the VAST majority of "everyday driving" scenarios the 2.0T, even in FWD, is a higher performing car.
    ....and with the added benefit of DSG..... see ya.

  21. #60
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    The original post was about QUATTRO so not quite sure all this FWD/DSG stuff is actually helping the debate.

    For those of us with experience of both 'in the VAST majority of "everyday driving" scenarios the 2.0TDi QUATTRO 170 is a better overall performing car.

    QED

  22. #61
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    Well looking at your figures if 1st to 2nd is one change then 1st to 2nd to 3rd is 2 changes......
    Aww come on Pad, you know what I meant. Two changes then! Either way, it's more than it takes in a petrol... which (as you know) is the point I'm making.

    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    The way i see it is if the derv needs more gear changes to reach a speed then it must have more gears to reach the top speed of the petrol....but it dosnt does it
    I'm afraid you see it wrong then. It doesn't quite work in that way.
    Although the TDI does have a lower top speed than the TFSI, so maybe the diesel would need a 7th gear to achieve the petrol's top speed.

    You can get the top speed out of most (all??) 5/6 geared cars using their second from highest gear. The highest gear is a fuel saver etc.

    Example.... on the DSG when in 'S' it won't select 6th gear. The highest gear it will select is 5th, no matter how fast you go. You will however still be able to achieve the cars top speed.
    Last edited by Ads; 7th January 2011 at 16:59.

  23. #62
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    For those of us with experience of both 'in the VAST majority of "everyday driving" scenarios the 2.0TDi QUATTRO 170 is a better overall performing car.
    In "your" experience of both.

  24. #63
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    The TFSI does have a slightly higher top speed but who wants to do 140mph in any A3?????

    Our TFSi Quattro (2005) always felt like it needed a 7th gear when cruising on the Motorway the Tdi Quattro 170 is very relaxed in 6th.

    Clearly the gearing does the Petrol A3 no favours and hence possibly the poor economy. A similarly powered A4 Q (yes we had one in the family in 2006) was far more economical and relaxing that the A3TFSiQ.

  25. #64
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    The TFSI does have a slightly higher top speed but who wants to do 140mph in any A3?
    Not me. Paddy did ask though.


    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    Our TFSi Quattro (2005) always felt like it needed a 7th gear when cruising on the Motorway the Tdi Quattro 170 is very relaxed in 6th.
    For me, cruising on motorways is where mine (2006) feels most relaxed. It's also where I get the best economy.

    To wrap this up, it's obvious that for you a diesel is suited to your driving style/preference.
    For me, I like a revvy engine that I can really stretch and unleash a bit more oomph if I choose to.

  26. #65
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    Quote Originally Posted by aythreee View Post

    For me, cruising on motorways is where mine (2006) feels most relaxed. It's also where I get the best economy.

    To wrap this up, it's obvious that for you a diesel is suited to your driving style/preference.

    It's actually my Missus Co-Pilots car.. I have something even more relaxing for the motorway. I probably do 7-8k miles in the 8P and whilst I used to prefer a high revving petrol motor the new Audi Diesels are way better than many petrol motors. The 2005 TFSi Q we had was horrible on the M way, always felt like it needed an extra gear and was far from relaxing.

    For me, I like a revvy engine that I can really stretch and unleash a bit more oomph if I choose to.

    Each to their own.... the TFSi sure revs higher than a CR Diesel but as far as ooomph and more importantly Torque are concerned the Tdi 170 Quattro is ten times better ...


    We need to remember that you have a DSG and not a Quattro so may not be offering the best opinion to the OP.

  27. #66
    Reverse Gear

    Status
    Offline
    ...

    58 2.0 TDI 170 bhp Quattro Sportback S/Line at 45k and, albeit with "fast" cruising mainly up and down motorways, I am getting about 35 mpg. Company car with my tax already paid on the fuel card, so don't really care about economy, but bit surprised about the drop in fuel economy when compared to 140 FWD A3 2dr which ALWAYS gave me 44 whatever I drove it like.

  28. #67
    AuldReekie's Avatar
    4th Gear

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    766
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    [/B][/COLOR]
    We need to remember that you have a DSG and not a Quattro so may not be offering the best opinion to the OP.
    Interesting. By that rationale: there is little merit to your (many) opinions on the matter of S3 ownership then. Can't have it both ways.

  29. #68
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    the TFSi sure revs higher than a CR Diesel but as far as ooomph and more importantly Torque are concerned the Tdi 170 Quattro is ten times better
    Ahhh mate, with respect, you don't half talk some fraff.

    Before you make throw away statements at least know what you are talking about. The TDI 170 has about 15-20% more torque than the TFSI.... not 1000% as per your comment above.
    And as mentioned earlier in this thread, the TDI's torque is spread across a much narrower range. So whilst you're running out of puff and mucking about changing gears, I'll be motoring on and on and on and on......


    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    We need to remember that you have a DSG and not a Quattro so may not be offering the best opinion to the OP.
    I think its safe to say that for me AND YOU this thread moved miles away from the OP's topic ages ago.
    Last edited by Ads; 7th January 2011 at 20:35.

  30. #69
    FranA3's Avatar
    events moderator

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    south wales
    Posts
    7,124
    the 2.0 tfsi quattro is a clear second quicker to 60 than the 2.0tdi the tfsi is 6.9 the tdi is 7.9 so its close match i think lol
    ​She is back on the road yay!!

  31. #70
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by fnmrst View Post
    the 2.0 tfsi quattro is a clear second quicker to 60 than the 2.0tdi the tfsi is 6.9 the tdi is 7.9 so its close match i think lol
    Even the crappy FWD tfsi is a second quicker than the TDI Q as well. But PilotAudi will still tell you that the TDI is 1000 times quicker!

    Thing is, I genuinely don't think the TDI is slow/poor/crap/a tractor/etc etc. In fact, I know they are surprisingly good performers, especially in Quattro form.
    But his idea that it is a better performer than a TFSI Quattro and TOTALLY outperforms a FWD TFSI is just plain weird IMO, and to be honest the first time I've ever heard someone take such a stance on here.

  32. #71
    FranA3's Avatar
    events moderator

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    south wales
    Posts
    7,124
    they both have good points and bad points like any engine but i prefer the petrol engine you have to change gear alot earlyer in a tdi were in a petrol you still have 3000 odd revs to go, the tdi is prob a little quicker off the mark in the first place because of the turbo lag of the petrol but then the petrol will go past the tdi when it changes gear because of the more revs available and the higher bhp at the top of the rev range easy really
    ​She is back on the road yay!!

  33. #72
    PaulAr's Avatar
    S3 (8P)

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Tyne & Wear
    Posts
    4,049
    Graham Norton has an A3 Diesel
    Now:
    -MK2 Golf Gti 16V/VR6, Oak Green, Shrick, Intake, Decat, Kish Retrim, Lenso BSX..
    -BMW 335d Xdrive, Estoril Blue, fully loaded.

    Before:
    S3 (8P), Ibis, DSG, Milltek, SHARK

    BMW 320d M Sport
    S3 (8P), Sprint, REVO, H&R Springs, BBS CHs,

    Golf MK5 GTi 20TFSI - REVO Stage1, Red.
    Golf MK5 GTi 20TFSI - Std, Shadow Blue
    Civic Type `R`
    Golf MK4 GTi 18T - 200bhp, MTM ECU, Forge DV
    Golf MK3 VR6 - Cat Back
    Corrado VR6 - JAMEX
    Corrado G60 - JAMEX, BRM Charger rebuild
    etc....

  34. #73
    FranA3's Avatar
    events moderator

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    south wales
    Posts
    7,124
    lol he would
    ​She is back on the road yay!!

  35. #74
    Banned

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    SW
    Posts
    2,353
    Quote Originally Posted by aythreee View Post
    Even the crappy FWD tfsi is a second quicker than the TDI Q as well. But PilotAudi will still tell you that the TDI is 1000 times quicker!

    Thing is, I genuinely don't think the TDI is slow/poor/crap/a tractor/etc etc. In fact, I know they are surprisingly good performers, especially in Quattro form.
    But his idea that it is a better performer than a TFSI Quattro and TOTALLY outperforms a FWD TFSI is just plain weird IMO, and to be honest the first time I've ever heard someone take such a stance on here.
    The figures show the TFSi QUATTRO as quicker. No dispute. Having owned both the Petrol and Diesel 170 (both Quattros) for 3 and 2.5 years respectively I honestly believe the Diesel to be the better overall performer in real life motoring... not 0-60 drive it like you've stolen it situations. Normal everyday spirited driving.

    The original Question posted was 'which Quattro to buy'?

    Irrespective of MPG, residual values etc I would and am going for a secong Tdi 170Q because I think it performance mix is better... Factor in Economy, servicing, residuals, towing capability, tyres (TFSi not so good on them either but not comparing same make!) and it is an absolute no-brainer Tdi 170 Q no contest!

    And ay3.. 'ten times; was a figure of speech ... Are you Cleggyroons spin doctor eh....

    Sorry, think I'll just go and have a beer as this is just the opinion of one person who has actually owned both!!
    Last edited by PilotAudi; 7th January 2011 at 22:29.

  36. #75
    Reverse Gear

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    9
    Was quite exicted to see the number of replies to my original post, which was about
    1) diesel or petrol quattro, and
    2) DPF purported problems

    What a disapointed to trial through all this crap about whether a fwd is quicker than a quattro or its top speed or how revvy it is

    I noted at the start, as was picked up by an earlier contributor, I drive a caterham too. Rear wheel drive for proper driving fun, and a 0-60 of about 4 sec and revs to 8500

    I also drive a Porsche 911 (997), 0 - 60 in about 4.8 and a top speed just shy of 190mph - I kinda think I should have noted this before to make it clear my reasons for asking the question had nothing to do speed etc, but trying to focus upon a different aspect of performance. But then maybe my question would have been 'Petrol or Diesel' 'Quattro or FWD' - which is the quickest.

    For those of you who joined the thread to find out about about the questions 1 and 2 above, my apologies for going off topic.

    For those who who like there 2wd revvy engines - enjoy - but it would be nice to see the end of the debate here.

    Still no bad reports on the DPF - the links through Honest John I posted above appear to be off the mark, within this forum at least. Maybe written by someone who likes petrol engines more.

    cheers
    Darren

  37. #76
    FranA3's Avatar
    events moderator

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    south wales
    Posts
    7,124
    go for the 2.0tdi best for towing and good mpg too
    ​She is back on the road yay!!

  38. #77
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by ds7_uk View Post
    Was quite exicted to see the number of replies to my original post, which was about
    1) diesel or petrol quattro, and
    2) DPF purported problems

    What a disapointed to trial through all this crap about whether a fwd is quicker than a quattro or its top speed or how revvy it is

    I noted at the start, as was picked up by an earlier contributor, I drive a caterham too. Rear wheel drive for proper driving fun, and a 0-60 of about 4 sec and revs to 8500

    I also drive a Porsche 911 (997), 0 - 60 in about 4.8 and a top speed just shy of 190mph - I kinda think I should have noted this before to make it clear my reasons for asking the question had nothing to do speed etc, but trying to focus upon a different aspect of performance. But then maybe my question would have been 'Petrol or Diesel' 'Quattro or FWD' - which is the quickest.

    For those of you who joined the thread to find out about about the questions 1 and 2 above, my apologies for going off topic.

    For those who who like there 2wd revvy engines - enjoy - but it would be nice to see the end of the debate here.

    Still no bad reports on the DPF - the links through Honest John I posted above appear to be off the mark, within this forum at least. Maybe written by someone who likes petrol engines more.

    cheers
    Darren
    Take a chill pill mate. When there is talk of petrol and diesel in a single thread this is always how it ends up on here.
    In fact you'll find that most threads with more than 15-20 posts go off topic.

    You're new, you'll learn.

  39. #78
    Ads
    Ads's Avatar
    License to drive

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,223
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    Sorry, think I'll just go and have a beer as this is just the opinion of one person who has actually owned both!!
    That's your catchphrase. You write it in every thread you post in! WE KNOW.... WE GET IT!

    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAudi View Post
    The figures show the TFSi QUATTRO as quicker. No dispute. Having owned both the Petrol and Diesel 170 (both Quattros) for 3 and 2.5 years respectively I honestly believe the Diesel to be the better overall performer in real life motoring... not 0-60 drive it like you've stolen it situations. Normal everyday spirited driving.
    I reckon it just feels that way, due to the shove in the back you get from the TDI.
    The reality is that is just isn't quicker/faster/etc etc. I'm sorry.

    Put the two on the road or a course or a drag strip or wherever.... the TFSI Q will come out on top.

    Anyway, I really can't have this conversation anymore. We are boring me now.

  40. #79
    paddy's Avatar
    Audi=No fault code, no idea

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    5,135
    Loads of S3's in Brighton today ? Cant think why.
    Ibis white Revo S3 and now matching Vivaro LWB HR 2900 :-)

    Many people are alive because its illegal to shoot them.

  41. #80
    6th Gear

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    2,502
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    Loads of S3's in Brighton today ? Cant think why.
    are you implying they're for homosexuals?
    2006 Phantom Black A3 2.0T S-Line.
    DSG | 18" BBS Pescaras | Rear Parking Sensors | MFSW | Symphony II | BOSE | Auto lights/wipers | Half leather
    MODS : '09 tail lights | TT vents | Weitec Hicon GTs | RNS-E 2010 | Controls Pack (Red Stitching)
    PLANS: Dumbos | 8P3 S-Line Rear Bumper | OEM Parking Sensors


    GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN:
    2005 Ebony Black A3 1.6 Sport tiptronic. You will be missed!
    1997 BMW 316i Coupe M-Sport. You won't be missed quite so much!

 

 
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO

Garage Plus, Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO