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    It's time to take preventative action against thieving scumbags

    With a couple of very recent threads about RNS-Es being stolen (here & here) I fear we may be at the start of a spate of thefts. The theft of your S3 wing mirrors is an expensive problem but smashing your window to nick your headunit is a lot worse.

    With the wingmirrors problem quite a few rightly stated that we shouldn't buy them from eBay as we're just feeding the hands that stole them from another A3 owner, and it's a vicious circle. The same will apply with RNS-Es, so one thing we ALL need to do is buy a UV marker and stick your postcode/VRN/chassis number all over the unit. I will be buying one ASAP myself.

    We may be able to take it a step further, perhaps hold a database of serial numbers next to their owners so that we can contact people directly if we happen to come across one.

    One thing we really need to do this time is gather EVIDENCE. When we find a unit in the wrong hands we need to be able to positively show that unit was stolen and hopefully have action taken against them.

    Thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
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    think this is a fantastic idea!!
    ill be getting a marker in the next few days and happy to put up my s/n number should the worse happen.
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    Staz, great idea BUT RNS-e serial numbers can be flashed. - With this, it is only worthwhile taking note of the sticky labelled serial number on the top of the unit - not the one programmed into memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkp0897 View Post
    Staz, great idea BUT RNS-e serial numbers can be flashed. - With this, it is only worthwhile taking note of the sticky labelled serial number on the top of the unit - not the one programmed into memory.
    Yep, that's what I was thinking already mate

    EDIT: Well there's no reason why both serials shouldn't be added.
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    Excellent idea. As the coordinator of a Neighbourhood Watch Scheme for the small Close of 20 houses where I live, I was given some UV pens by the police to distribute to my neighbours and asked encourage them to mark all our valuable items in the house (and car).

    It's a great help to the police because if any items are found when various addresses are raided by them they are able to return the goods to their rightful owners and confirm when and from where they were stolen.

    I have also just received the following item from the police in connection with cars to circulate....


    With the onset of darker and colder days/nights, Police are warning drivers to consider the security of their vehicles when leaving them unattended. This week, a high value vehicle was stolen from a driveway in Huntingdonshire because the owner had left the engine running and the keys in the ignition whilst the vehicle defrosted! Therefore please consider the following security advice:
    • Never leave a vehicle unattended and the engine running even it is only for a couple of minutes! Use De-Icers and Scrapers but never leave your vehicle running to thaw out frozen windows! Please remember that most, if not all, Insurance Companies will not pay out if the theft is a result of the owner leaving the vehicle in a vulnerable position. It is the owner's responsibility to ensure that the vehicle is left in a secure state and any loss as a result of the owner's negligence could prove very costly!
    • Never leave items on show inside the vehicle and never just hide them away under seats and the glove box! It is not just 'valuables' that get stolen; anything left on show can prove a temptation to an opportunist thief! Please remember that some Insurance Companies will not pay out if items have been left on show and consequently, those vehicles placed at risk! Even if they do pay out, most Insurance Companies only provide cover for personal effects upto the value of 100, therefore you stand to lose much more than you can actually claim for.
    • With the onset of darker mornings and evenings, consider where you are parking your vehicle and what that area will look like in darkness. Try and park in well lit, open areas that can be seen by other motorists and passers by and don't leave your vehicle parked in a space that is obscured by overgrown shrubbery or high fencing/walling.
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    Always good advice!
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    I'm about to invest in RNS-E. The two reasons I've been in no rush is that I would hate to inadvertently purchase a unit that was stolen, possibly by a fellow ASN member and also because i fear installing one only to have it stolen and not being able to claim for it.

    I think a database of serial numbers is a brilliant idea and i'd be on board with a potential scheme once it's up and running and once I've acquired a unit.

    My only reservation is - what if an innocent member purchases a unit and subsequently learns it's another member's stolen one? They potentially could end up out of pocket through no real fault of their own...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sub39h View Post
    I'm about to invest in RNS-E. The two reasons I've been in no rush is that I inadvertently purchase a unit that was stolen, possibly by a fellow ASN member and also because i fear installing one only to have it stolen and not being able to claim for it.

    I think a database of serial numbers is a brilliant idea and i'd be on board with a potential scheme once it's up and running and once I've acquired a unit.

    My only reservation is - what if an innocent member purchases a unit and subsequently learns it's another member's stolen one? They potentially could end up out of pocket through no real fault of their own...
    but if thats the case, couldnt you claim back through paypal who would in turn claim the money back form the seller and inform the police?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jungleman View Post
    but if thats the case, couldnt you claim back through paypal who would in turn claim the money back form the seller and inform the police?
    Stop being smarter than me :-(

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    Good call, will look to do SDS hack at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jungleman View Post
    but if thats the case, couldnt you claim back through paypal who would in turn claim the money back form the seller and inform the police?
    Good call indeed.

    Although I noted on another thread in General Chat (this one eBay) that people were advising that when buying from Ebay and paying with Paypal, to send the money as a gift to avoid paying fees. If you do this then I think you have to do it separately to the Ebay auction item, and then it's not covered by Paypal protection policy. I'm pretty sure thats the case anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanoir View Post
    Good call indeed.

    Although I noted on another thread in General Chat (this one eBay) that people were advising that when buying from Ebay and paying with Paypal, to send the money as a gift to avoid paying fees. If you do this then I think you have to do it separately to the Ebay auction item, and then it's not covered by Paypal protection policy. I'm pretty sure thats the case anyway.
    if thats the case, just have to make sure you do it as per ebay and paypal rules to keep yourself protected, if someone asked me to do that id walk away if they wouldn let me do it the proper way, leaves you way to unprotected and would think that are up to something dodgy!
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    Sounds like a good plan
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    Brilliant idea Leon and one that should be done very soon.

    As said above, if you pay via paypal but as a gift, you are not covered under the protection policy as its not connected to the ebay item. You could also use your credit card so if anything goes wrong they can claim it back.

    Will definately get the UV pen. What next will these scabs go for!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah's A3 View Post
    Will definately get the UV pen. What next will these scabs go for!!!
    hopefully not the FBMFSW when they see its about same price! :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khufu View Post
    hopefully not the FBMFSW when they see its about same price! :-(
    But that's a lot harder to steal. Certainly not a 5 minute job like the head units
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    2 torx and a spline - i reckon it could be done in 3 minutes if you dont worry about it going off in your face lol
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    On the subject of UV pens, I came across this web-site. Has information on the use and limitations of UV pens, and also several other very secure permanent marking systems. Well worth a read to see what is available.
    :: Selectamark Security Systems Limited :: Have a look at their microdot and DNA marking methods.
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    It is possible to erase UV pen markings?.. with white spirits or something else? A bit like the thread above, if it degrades over a 12 month period, not very useful.

    I would say simply etch scratch the serial number into the side of the unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jungleman View Post
    but if thats the case, couldnt you claim back through paypal who would in turn claim the money back form the seller and inform the police?
    Only within 45 days. Paypal are very strict on that. I bought a mobile that turned out to be stolen, but the IMEI wasn't blacklisted for over three months. They weren't interested at all.

    Be careful who you buy from, even buying from a seller with over 500 good feedback didn't protect me on that occasion, I think he'd been sold a pup too.
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    I plan to write using UV pen all over the back end of my unit and then add something in permanent marker also. If I have to do it once a year that's fine by me.

    Okay here's my suggestion on the serial number database. I can create a thread in the admin forum so that no one apart from mods has access. If you then send me a PM with your serials (stamped and digital) and any contact details you're happy for us to retain then I add it to the list. If you don't want to give an address or phone number that's fine, so long as we can get a hold of you somehow without delay.

    Any other suggestions or shall we go ahead on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Staz View Post
    I plan to write using UV pen all over the back end of my unit and then add something in permanent marker also. If I have to do it once a year that's fine by me.

    Okay here's my suggestion on the serial number database. I can create a thread in the admin forum so that no one apart from mods has access. If you then send me a PM with your serials (stamped and digital) and any contact details you're happy for us to retain then I add it to the list. If you don't want to give an address or phone number that's fine, so long as we can get a hold of you somehow without delay.

    Any other suggestions or shall we go ahead on that?
    Will the thread content still be visible?
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    i will certainly be tagging my new rnse.especially being the target of the last rnse theft..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
    Really, doesnt resemble a sheep last pic I saw :P
    Never seen Nate but in my mind he looks like one of the wurzels



    but with a sheep under each arm..
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    Quote Originally Posted by beanoir View Post
    Will the thread content still be visible?
    No, I wouldn't think people would want their contact details made public would they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHN View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khufu View Post
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    BMW 320d M Sport
    S3 (8P), Sprint, REVO, H&R Springs, BBS CHs,

    Golf MK5 GTi 20TFSI - REVO Stage1, Red.
    Golf MK5 GTi 20TFSI - Std, Shadow Blue
    Civic Type `R`
    Golf MK4 GTi 18T - 200bhp, MTM ECU, Forge DV
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