No DIS / Speedo / RPM / Gauges or Aircon lights 56-reg TDI!!

[c_w]

Came to start my A3 TDI 2006 and there's no display on the dashboard (no mileage, DIS etc) and the climate doesn't light up either (but still works/blows air). The car starts and drives fine. Also notice the lights-on buzzer isn't working with door open. For some reason about 4 lights on the dash stay lit up in the rev counter)

I've checked the fuses near the battery and also the other fuseboard on the driver's side dash. Are there any more I could check? It must be power-related if both the dash and the climate system don't work/light up?

Please help!!

 

[c_w]

It's the ABS, Airbag, Handbrake and a red steering wheel light that are lit up in the RPM side, with NOTHING else working on the dash, these stay on for about 1 minute after I turn the ignition off. I've checked the (single) connector on the back of the dash pod and it's firmly connected.

The aircon/climate works but the display is not lighting up (but it is very very dim, and can be seen from certain angles slightly).

Could it be a module perhaps?

 

[Khufu]

Doesnt sound too good. Without testing lots of things its hard to guess. I'd recommend a scan using vacom to see what it reports. Where are you located?

 

[c_w]

Near Manchester, I will try and get it connected to a vagcom and report back any faults. Weird, as the car has been perfect up until this and there's been no hint of a problem before and up to last night when it was last used.

 

[c_w]

I've removed the instrument cluster and disconnected it and the climate comes back to life (lights up as normal). I want to check a Parrot installation behind the radio/climate incase this is interfering somehow with the dash.

Does anyone know who you remove the climate control switches/facia?

 

[c_w]

I've now had the car on VAGCOM and it's come up with a few faults. There's a couple of faults relating to heating but I've already found that if I unplug the dash clocks the climate comes back on as normal. The fault for the instruments is "00532 Voltage B+ - Upper Limit Exceeded". Can anyone help at all?

As said the car drives fine, there's no problems with anything else apart from the instruments (some of the lights work, like andbrake, battery, cruise still works fine etc), but the dials, computer DIS etc don't come on at all. One thing I want to try is a second set of clocks as they're so easy to change. Does anyone know of a car being broken or someone have a spare set of clocks from this age car I could try to narrow it down?


2.0 TDI BKD 2006

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LG HW: 03G 906 021 LG
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 9179
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: AUX7Z0F6FNB0H5
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 00654 210 91815
VCID: 6FE62A4907EF

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0023170
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 73EE26396BC7

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 M HW: 8P0 820 043 M
Component: KlimavollautomatH18 0300
Revision: 355891 Serial number: 8P0820043M
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 3668DF2D3835

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 60
Mileage: 50903 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.09.16
Time: 00:44:17

Freeze Frame:
ON


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 F HW: 8P0 907 279 F
Component: Bordnetz-SG H43 1201
Revision: 00H43000 Serial number: 00000005966229
Coding: 01884F07A214100000000000000000000008FE175C0200
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
VCID: 4084B9F56AF1

Part No: 8P2 955 119 B
Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
Coding: 00062736
Shop #: WSC 06314

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 H HW: 8P0 959 655 H
Component: Airbag 9.41 H12 3720
Revision: 91H12372 Serial number: 0037W002JBA+
Coding: 0071612
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 4796A2E94FDF

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F HW: 8P0 953 549 F
Component: J0527 H37 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 00654 210 91815
VCID: 4182BCF161FB

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 F HW: 8P0 920 981 F
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H18 0560
Revision: D0H18002 Serial number: 2246F002003023
Coding: 0004413
Shop #: WSC 00654 210 91815
VCID: 3B7ECE190317

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 21
Mileage: 50921 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.09.16
Time: 01:05:11


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 G HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H10 0140
Revision: H10 Serial number: 30001067028793
Coding: 3D0F0B4207000101
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 2B5EFE59F377

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 F HW: 8P0 920 981 F
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H18 0560
Revision: D0H18002 Serial number: AUX7Z0F6FNB0H5
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3B7ECE190317

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 8P0 959 801 H
Component: Tuer-SG 020 0090
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
VCID: 4084B9F56AF1

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.078 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 00654 210 91806
VCID: 356AD8212533

1 Fault Found:
00750 - Warning Lamp
013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 50910 km
Temperature: 26.0°C
Voltage: 12.30 V
Voltage: 12.10 V


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 8P0 959 433 C
Component: KSG H04 0050
Coding: 198000186D288505489AC63300
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 3C7CCD050619

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003

Part No: 8P0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
Part No SW: 8P3 035 382 HW: 8P3 035 382
Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH27 0160
Revision: 00005 Serial number: 30659635428607
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: F0E4A9359AD1

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 8P0 959 802 H
Component: Tuer-SG 020 0090
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
VCID: 4182BCF161FB

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 C HW: 8P0 035 186 C
Component: concert II EU H52 0100
Revision: 02S Serial number: AUZ2Z3F4209471
Coding: 0001001
Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
VCID: 3260E33DD45D

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D5AF041CD63

1 Fault Found:
01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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[Dean's A3]

I think I saw one being advertised on eBay and I'm sure it's the one with dis..

 

[Khufu]

Dont know if this is of any help.

00532 - Ross-Tech Wiki

 

[c_w]

Thanks for that - I checked that but there's no reference to "Upper Limit" which is more worrying that too low voltage isn't it!!

I've seen one off an 06 TDI with a DIS but the part number is different - why are there sooooo many variations of each part on these cars!!? My part no. for the clocks is;

8P0 920 981 F

At the moment it's pointing towards the cluster failing but am loathe to take it Audi who may think the same and throw a lot of MY money at it without knowing for certain. That's why I think atm finding a second hand or spare cluster even just to trial would be a huge help. Not bothered if it doesn't start the car, just to check if it reponds properly or reacts the same way which would indicate a fault elsewhere?

 

[Khufu]

Im sure some members must have their old ones after changing to the white LED cluster? I do but mine is a petrol cluster.

 

[c_w]

Thanks, would have been great if it was a TDI one!

Getting somewhere I think with this now; I've spent the afternoon till now taking off the under panel, clocks (again), radio, climate, and then pulling out the glovebox, checking any connection I could. The Gateway which Elsawin conveniently describes as "bolted to a centre console brace in driver's footwell" turned out to be behind the glovebox. I know it probably refers to LHD but it's well out in this case!! Had the battery disconnected for a while too and disconnected the gateway to see if it would possibly clear a problem.

Anyway none of that solved the problem HOWEVER I've noticed the steering wheel symbol change from red to orange to green randomly and this seems to "release" the other warning lights that do work on the cluster. Waggling some wires around the steering column and starting the car the clocks came to life very briefly!!! So it looks like a bad connection or maybe related the steering wheel sensor which is somehow knocking the whole clocks out?? As they did all come on, the warning buzzer sounded too briefly so will have a better look tomorrow in light.

A very strange fault but hopefully getting closer to solving it - also wondering if it's related to moving the wheel up and down due to different drivers high to low (myself and my girlfriend)??

 

[Khufu]

eBay - The UK's Online Marketplace

 

[c_w]

Thanks, had spotted those but kind of dismissed them as the part number not exactly the same; what would the difference be on the suffix letter? 8P0 920 981 B vs F

 

[c_w]

Some good news and some bad news.

After light fading last night with bits of trim still off (under steering wheel etc) I left it until I can take another look later tonight. Came to start it this morning to go to work and the dashboard/clocks/everything came on as normal straight away! so it's definitely not the clocks (thankfully) but for some reason somerthing in the steering column is affecting them. There is one earth on the column which is fine, bolted up tight so it's not that.

So the good news they've come back on (as easily as they went off), but hte bad news I still don't know why they went off and could go off again at a later date. Has anyone any suggestions what could possibly affect the instruments like this in the steering column area? igntion barrell??

 

[NHN]

Check all your wires around the area mate, properly, must be a short/broken wire or loose connection.