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    Bye bye S3

    Well, I managed to sell the S3 the other day, and I've now picked up a 54 plate Mazda RX-8 231. I was actually a bit sad watching it drive off down the road even though I know I've been very critical of it, because it has been utterly dependable for the 18 months I owned it, and it was always my (attainable) dream car when I was learning to drive.

    Didn't get anywhere near the original price, but it had to go to make way for the new car. The RX-8 is a different beast, revs to 9k, handles like it's on rails and is RWD. Handling/performance of the RX-8 is definitely better than the S3, but the S3 is so much better built! Didn't think it would bother me at the time, but the difference between the interiors and panels are worlds apart. I thought the S3 was thirsty averaging 21mpg but the RX8 is an absolute monster and I'm getting around 16mpg no matter how I drive.

    Sold the S3 to a chap who was fairly clued up and I told him about this place, so it's probably not the last you'll be hearing from Y561.

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    Good luck with the new car, got to admit was not a fan. Has to be the worst car I had ever owned, although I have to agree on the handling front.
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    congrats golf.... hope the new car stays a little longer than the rest

    whats ya thoughts on the power/torque of the Mazda, ive had a play with a few but never really bin threatened by one pace wise
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    congrats golf.... hope the new car stays a little longer than the rest

    whats ya thoughts on the power/torque of the Mazda, ive had a play with a few but never really bin threatened by one pace wise
    Thats because a fat jogger could burn one off the lights
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    Stick around and share your knowledge, congrats on the sale!

    16MPG :O:O
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    16mpg and they drink oil more than the S3`s do.

    Considered one when they 1st came out, even got VIP tickets to the motorshow to see it there tempting as it was Im glad I didn`t buy a new one as prices dropped quickly. They make a good 2nd hand buy imo
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    Yeah watch the oil buddy, my mate who works for Mazda told me everytime you fill up with fuel you'll be putting a drop of oil in... Trait of the rotary engine apparently. Thanks for your top knowledge, been very helpful more than once to me buddy. Stick around won't ya!

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    They are nice, but RX8 s get beaten by a mapped S3. not much of a monster in terms of power, then again everyone to their own taste. good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_marshall View Post
    Good luck with the new car, got to admit was not a fan. Has to be the worst car I had ever owned, although I have to agree on the handling front.
    I've heard of many horror stories with these engines, I'm awaiting the day when my rotors give up the ghost and a new engine is required. What problems did you have with yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    whats ya thoughts on the power/torque of the Mazda, ive had a play with a few but never really bin threatened by one pace wise
    There is literally no torque especially until 5000 RPM, but it seems pretty nippy, would expect it to be slightly faster than a standard S3 in a straight line.

    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    Stick around and share your knowledge, congrats on the sale!

    16MPG :O:O
    I'll be sticking around, I've been on this site since I bought the A4 in January 2007, so it'll be difficult to stay away! And 16mpg is if I drive fairly sedately, as soon as you rag it the needle drops faster than an Essex girls knickers.

    Quote Originally Posted by fran-s3 View Post
    Yeah watch the oil buddy, my mate who works for Mazda told me everytime you fill up with fuel you'll be putting a drop of oil in... Trait of the rotary engine apparently. Thanks for your top knowledge, been very helpful more than once to me buddy. Stick around won't ya!
    Yep, I keep an eye on the oil, but it doesn't seem too bad. Thanks for the kind words, I'll still be logging in every day to see what's happening in the world of A3/S3's.

    Quote Originally Posted by S3KO4 View Post
    They are nice, but RX8 s get beaten by a mapped S3. not much of a monster in terms of power, then again everyone to their own taste. good luck
    True, it's not the quickest, but the way it corners is unreal, you can go through the twisties at a ridiculous speed, most cars would struggle to keep up with it on B roads.

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    I think they look quite good, get some pics up of the car mate, will be good to see it

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    i have considered a 8 as the 4 doors would be handy with the little one, my only conceren is the quality id like to think i could get somethin on par, does it have leather etc?

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    lots of people selling up this year already

    wouldnt touch an rx8 with a bargepole, not even the prodrive editions, they look awesome but have the reliability of a renault 5 gtt lol

    have been told of their handling though and it was all positive comments, 16mpg though, ouch!!

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    rotary engines = extremley high maintainence they will drink oil by design, love the way they scream though..

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    Problems I encountered was corrosion, its common around the centre rear brake light and below the doors, then the power steering played up, ended up being a knuckle just needed removing, a clean up and re grease but still annoying, then finally the rotors where on the way out lost all power and sounded like a bag of bolts so chopped it in for the S3.
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    Shame to see it go Golf, Gald youre happy with the new motor and wish you the best with it.
    Now get some pictures of the RX8 up!

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    Re: Bye bye S3

    I know what you mean about the S3 build quality.

    I'm loving your old S3! There is much life left in this motor

    A few jobs done in the last few days

    And some summer rims going on soon, I've had them for a while just been waiting for the right car

    I hope your loving your new motor.

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    Good to see you signed up to the forum. So, what 'jobs' have you done to the car? Hope you're enjoying it more than I am my new car, I'm getting 180 miles to a full tank which is killing any enthusiasm I have for it.

    I'm thinking of returning to the S3 in a few months, and I personally, think you got yourself a bargain!

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    Re: Bye bye S3

    Yes it's a lovely car

    Just some minor work to be expected on a car 9 years old

    The oil breather had fallen apart, turbo gasket, rocker cover gasket, westfalia removable tow bar, 4 wheel alignment, light bulbs, rear tyres, and a rattle.

    I'm a bit fussy! It's gone to s good home and it's in good company, I also have one of the last Corrado VR6 and I recently fitted the Vag 1.8t into my BMW mini track car

    My mate is a painter and we are considering a full repaint for the S3 the only problem is will be to worried to use it then!!

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    Let's see the RX-8 :P:P
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    Golf, you'll be back in an S3 before you know it, just can't keep away, seems like a 'love' 'hate' relationship... Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckydave View Post
    The oil breather had fallen apart, turbo gasket, rocker cover gasket, westfalia removable tow bar, 4 wheel alignment, light bulbs, rear tyres, and a rattle.

    My mate is a painter and we are considering a full repaint for the S3 the only problem is will be to worried to use it then!!
    Blimey, you've not hung about! So have you sorted the blowing exhaust? What light bulbs did you change and what rattle?

    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    Let's see the RX-8 :P:P
    Not mine, but it's pretty much identical to this.




    Quote Originally Posted by leggy View Post
    Golf, you'll be back in an S3 before you know it, just can't keep away, seems like a 'love' 'hate' relationship... Lol
    It's certainly looking that way, or a VAG car at the very least. I really don't see me keeping the RX-8 too long, excellent car but a terrible ownership prospect.

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    My mate has an RX8. Nice cars. Great handling and brakes but the mapped S3 has the straight line legs. I'm supprised at your 16mpg? You must drive in traffic alot? That can't be right if not!
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    The RX-8 is a really nice car, but the rotary engine is its downfall. Thirsty, unreliable and high-maintenance are just three of the not-so-good points about the engine.

    It drives beautifully and you can swing the tail out pretty easily (don't know if that's good or bad!) but in the back of your mind you're just worrying that the engine will go bang at any time. It's not exactly a rare occurence. I do a lot of short journeys, and apparently 16mpg is about average for that sort of driving. There's a guy on the RX8 OC who lives in central London and gets 12mpg in the low powered 192

    I only do around 100 miles a week but if I'm going to spend 50 a week on fuel then I may as well get an S4 with a bulletproof engine and better fuel economy.

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    16mpg is a joke for a car with 231bhp! I mean if it had 400bhp, then you wouldn't mind, even driving at snails pace around town. Glad I never got one, as I was tempted to trade my S3 in for one back when they we're a few years old.


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    Quote Originally Posted by golf View Post
    I may as well get an S4 with a bulletproof engine and better fuel economy.
    Now there's an idea chap!

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    I am placing a bet, 6 weeks golf will be back in VAG of some sort. S3 probably
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    16mpg is a joke for a car with 231bhp! I mean if it had 400bhp, then you wouldn't mind, even driving at snails pace around town. Glad I never got one, as I was tempted to trade my S3 in for one back when they we're a few years old.
    Yep that's the thing, for the performance the fuel economy is absolutely atrocious. The most annoying thing about it is the RX-8 fanboys on their forums. So deluded it's unreal, I've only made around 40 posts but I've got a reputation as being the miserable pessimist because I dare to question the ****ty reliability of the rotary. I posted that the piston engine was far more reliable than the rotary and I was called a troll

    I thought the S3 boys on here were cringeworthy at times, but the RX8 OC are much worse. They don't mind the fuel economy, or the fact that many of them have had to get new CAT's (1000+), engines (3500+) and coils, leads, spark plugs (400) every 30,000 miles, and say it's all alright because of the way it drives and looks. Madness I tell you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    I am placing a bet, 6 weeks golf will be back in VAG of some sort. S3 probably
    I'll take that bet! LOL.

    Totally in agreement. He'll be back to the VAG unreliability soon enough!!
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    Ha ha, I was thinking of going for the 350Z next, always fancied one, but insurance will be high because of my age. I'm not sure what else is out there, I was thinking of getting something cheap and cheerful like a Renault Clio Sport, but then another part of me is saying go crazy and spend all your money on a massive N/A engine with many cylinders and unnecessary noise. I can hear the R32 calling me again.

    Any suggestions lads?

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    golf, post the link to the rx8oc forum, interesting to see what life is like over there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welly View Post
    V8 M3??

    Yeah baby, now they are SEXY!!
    I don't think I could afford one just yet, and no one will insure me on it seeing as I'm 23. A mate's uncle has one and it's absolutely awesome. Looks, sounds and drives superbly. And he gets 18mpg in town

    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    golf, post the link to the rx8oc forum, interesting to see what life is like over there?
    rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/index.php. I don't want to link directly to it as the moderator's will see the referring URL and trace it back to me and probably ban me! Also all similar topics are merged into one, so the engine failure thread is over 30 pages long. So rather than several different threads by different people which is easier to digest there's a massively tedious 31 pages to trawl through.

    Oh, and to get proper access they charge you 30 a year! This in itself I wouldn't mind, but the mods and 'comittee members' ram this down your throat at every given opportunity. Their marketing ploy is that you get 10% off certain retailers but the truth is you can get these anyway regardless of being a fully paid up member or not. I appreciate that running a busy forum costs money for hosting/bandwidth/domain name etc but I object to paying 30 for no good reason. As you can tell I'm not too fond of that other forum, but it does have a lot of useful information so it's not all bad.
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