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    Avus 17's vs RSTT 18's

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    Soon im looking at either refurbing all 4 of my avus wheels or upgrading to a set of rstt's.

    As they RStt's are 1" bigger do they effect ride/handeling much?
    I have also heared the suspension is -10mm on s3's fitted with the 18's... is there any truth to this?.

    If anyone has got a pic of before and after fitting rstt's to an s3, it would be appreciated.
    as i was hoping it would fill the arch gap slightly.

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    Lower profile tyres will make for a harsher ride on anything other than a decent road surface as you dont have as much tyre soaking up the bumps. However when I put my 18's on I'd gone up from 16's so I dont know how much harsher it would be from a 17 to an 18 if that makes sense?
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    defo firmer, not a million times different but seem to offer better handling...the RSTT's are apparently the best compromise between 19's and 17's - do the maths as to why

    i wouldnt go back to avus personally - but then the cost of decent 18's is different so depends on ya budget
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    Get the 18's. They look far better. 17's look dated IMO...Too small.

    Slightly firmer ride but not by much. Better turn in. Depends on the roads you drive
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    Hmm, I think i like the design of the avus's better (the fatter spokes) but i would like 18's as when spaced out they suit the s3 perfectly.
    Just a shame the 18" avus reps are so rare/ expensive
    Are tyres much dearer in the 18" varient? as i like good tyres.

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    With the correct sized tyres they'll both have the same rolling radius. Less tyre depth will = slightly bumpier ride however.
    The ride with RSTTs is fine though.

    Late model S3s supplied new with the 18" RSTT option had what's known as the gmbh suspension upgrade. Jury is out as to how much of a drop it gave, probably an extra 10mm.

    Edit: 18" tyres... I'm just about to put on a full set of Uniroyal RainSport 2s (uber-grippy buggers)... 106 each from mytyres.co.uk.
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    18s for the summer, 17s for the winter.

    Best compromise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Els View Post
    18s for the summer, 17s for the winter.

    Best compromise
    Precisely what I'm going for.

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    ugh... I dont fancy changing wheels once a year lol.
    JS i had rainsports on my old car and they were awesome..I may look into this gmbh suspension if i do find some rstts.
    I dont want to alter the vehicle too much from standard, but if i fit the wheels using my current suspension will it sit like a tractor?

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    IMO RSTT's look chavy, personally I would invest in S4 18" Avus.
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    nope mine looks fine
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    I'm in the same situation - ride heights the same i've been told. Not sure if i can deal with crashy ride all the time - potholes after the snow are a nightmare! Is the difference in handling worth it?

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    Unless I am mistaken
    RSTT = B5 RS4 Alloys?

    If not RSTT look like s**t
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    nope mine looks fine

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    My S3 on 18s isn't too bad at all, bump-wise. Much better than my old A4 on 18s and actually almost as smooth and comfortable as the A4 on 16s!

    Lookswise - it'll look fine on standard suspension and RSTTs. If you want it a bit lower without spending too much then you could seek out a set of gmbh springs & dampers (although most people wouldn't know what they had, I guess) or just get some 20mm lowering springs like Eibach's for about 155.
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    Tuffty, What suspensions on in that pic?.. the ride hight looks perfect!

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    Bilstien B8's and Apex -30mm springs... 10mm spacers on the front an 15mm on the rear, KW tie bars

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    Tuffty...

    what wheels are you running? OE's or RSTT's?

    I'm opting in for forge 15mm rear and 10mm front on my Standard AVUS wheels.

    Edited to add i can't see pics in work lol!

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    They are OEM RSTT's... I also still have my Avus's which have my snow/winter tyres on

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    EEEk, Just rang Plymouth Audi to see if i had the gmbh suspension/ to see how much it would cost to upgrade.
    Around 150 per corner for shocks and springs!!..
    However, the parts guy just to me to upgrade to Bilsteins unless im an idiot lol.

    Also, His friend who works for Exeter Audi has an 8l s3 "apparently" running over 600hp!!! who coincedently uses bilstein.

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    Billy's are definately the way forward!

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    Whats ground clearance like with the Bilsteins?

    Seems a bit low for me but im an old man deep down lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Els View Post
    Whats ground clearance like with the Bilsteins?

    Seems a bit low for me but im an old man deep down lol
    Very good, usual rules apply with speed bumps of course... much better than my A4 on coil overs...

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    I need a passenger ride in your car tuffty, really want to know how hard it rides with those Apex springs, and wouldn't mind a bit of push in the seat feeling whilst you are at it! lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    nope mine looks fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by finesse View Post
    Unless I am mistaken
    RSTT = B5 RS4 Alloys?

    If not RSTT look like s**t
    You are mistaken, not the same wheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I need a passenger ride in your car tuffty, really want to know how hard it rides with those Apex springs...
    no probs Jo...

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    ...and wouldn't mind a bit of push in the seat feeling whilst you are at it! lol
    is it me or does that sound sooooo wrong LOL...

    again, no probs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    and wouldn't mind a bit of push in the seat feeling whilst you are at it! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by s3 Hoggy View Post
    That looks boss Hoggy! Is that standard suspension with 13/20 spacers?
    If so then ill 100% be doing that.

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    Jo you and your rude ways, 1st dogging now on public forums, what next......standing on street corners????

    Tufty good luck, hes a big lad

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    Deffo go for the 18's, much more upto date than the Avus rims !


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    Re: Avus 17's vs RSTT 18's

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian W
    Deffo go for the 18's, much more upto date than the Avus rims !

    Precisely how mine needs to look. Few months it'll be there (no point waste decent Tyres at the moment!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by csweatherston View Post
    That looks boss Hoggy! Is that standard suspension with 13/20 spacers?
    If so then ill 100% be doing that.
    Yes mate,

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