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    Anyone using DS2500 pads?

    It's time to replace my front and rear brakes on my S3 and these seem to get good reviews so I'm considering them but they don't seem to have wear sensors fitted like the OEM pads do.

    I wondered how people are able to get round this problem as without the sensor installed as I'd assume the pad warning symbol will come up on the dash or log a fault code?

    I'm aiming for a finished setup of:

    DS2500's, braided lines, EBC Grooved discs & OEM gear at the back.

    Any advice (and pointers on where to get any of the above) would be appreciated.

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    Cut the old wear sensor off your brake pads and connect the two wires together, then zip-tie it to your suspension strut out of the way.
    make sure you dont cut the car loom though, because I am sure at some point tou will get pads with a wear sensor again, and will want to use them.

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    I'm using ds2500s, they've been on just over 2 years now, and they're only just about half worn!

    Using them with black diamond discs, and the stopping power is brilliant. Don't fade either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    I'm using ds2500s, they've been on just over 2 years now, and they're only just about half worn!

    Using them with black diamond discs, and the stopping power is brilliant. Don't fade either
    2 years - That's good going from a set of pads, I'd have expected the more aggresive compound of the DS2500's to wear faster than oem stuff.

    From what i can tell the black diamond pads are a bit cheaper than the EBC ones (only about 25 though) - I was going to get grooved discs based on what I've read about the drilled ones cracking
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    Are there different types of DS2500 pads or is it just the 1 type? I've seen some and it says 'street' next to them.

    Also, what black diamond discs do you go for? My brakes are so crap!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ_Troopa View Post
    Are there different types of DS2500 pads or is it just the 1 type? I've seen some and it says 'street' next to them.

    Also, what black diamond discs do you go for? My brakes are so crap!!
    I think there's only one type (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and from what I've read there are normal Ferodo pads (marketed as performance street) or the DS2500's.

    I've just had a look at the Black Diamond discs & there are three different types, I'm just going for grooved discs as drilled discs in general can crack between the holes.
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    I have yellow stuff pads, never had ds2500s but yellow stuff are good and they come with sensors for pad wear! i have combined with ebc grooved, good combo in my opinion :-)

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    Try Badger5 for pads and discs. Prices on this link

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    I'm currently running Black Diamond Grooved discs and DS2500's on mine and they are more than capable of stoppping an S3 that's been remapped. I've also had them for about two years and they have not let me down once.

    If anyone is interested I will be selling my current set up in the next couple of weeks to make way for a Brembo GT Kit.
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    Thanks for the info Maz. Love the look of your car with the S4's btw!

    Do you need to change the rear discs aswell?
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    Thanks Troopa, no need to change the rears, OEM discs and pads are fine.


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    Cheers matey, will keep this all in mind when the time comes. It had new pads a month before i got the car in october, looks like plenty more to go in them but they're just really weak and i'm scared when i brake sometimes lol
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    bought mine from bill. great brakes, good enough bite from cold and brilliant when hot. i have taroxx g88 discs with mine.
    2000 AMK S3, Revo'd, forge 007p, B8's, H&R's, tarox g88's, ferrodo ds2500's, and in the fastest colour



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    i recommend ebc yellows, had them for years and find them to be great

    as for your brakes........ make sure you put a decent brake fluid in. loads of expensive hardware is pointless without a decent brake fluid

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    Troopa if your scared to brake then you prob have none standard items...unless you do very heavy braking continously?

    my OEM set up hasnt let me down yet but i have experienced minor fade when braking from high speeds then trying to use them straight after for a similar stop.....

    aren't the black diamonds and DS2500 twice the price as OEM?

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    I'm not sure what they are Tim. It says the car was serviced in September last year, a month before i bought it. My mechanic has looked at them and said they look pretty much new so i was confused by that lol.

    I don't brake heavy at all. I brake normally, nice and easy, but it takes ages to stop! Feels really spongey!
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    sounds like air in the system tbh

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    Could be air and may need bleeding but sounds more like water in the brake fluid to me - prob from old fluid
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    DS series pads are the road pads, DS2500 and DS3000 etc are the "race" pads as they exceed reg90 by definition that they are >15% better friction coeffecient than std

    DS3000's on the heavier used S3's work better on the 312mm cars.. DS2500's work for most folks fine tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by tompearson View Post
    Try Badger5 for pads and discs. Prices on this link

    Got mine from Badger5 - fast, easy, good price. Recommend them (or him).
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    I'm running 2500's and ebc turbo groves and they can't half stop when u need them to. Never had any problems and got me out of a few bad moments before now
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    I have the Zimmerman perforated discs in the front and back with DS2500 for almost 2 years now. Not torn yet and there is not much brake dust coming of these brake pads.
    When they are torn I will get the same again, because I really like them.

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    are there any laws surrounding brake pads that could come into question here I'm assuming that the ds2500 are perfectly legal. But you know what they say ASSuME

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
    DS series pads are the road pads, DS2500 and DS3000 etc are the "race" pads as they exceed reg90 by definition that they are >15% better friction coeffecient than std

    DS3000's on the heavier used S3's work better on the 312mm cars.. DS2500's work for most folks fine tho

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    Thanks Bill,

    I think the DS2500's would be more than enough stopping power for me at the moment so that just leaves discs - I read the post you made on seatcupra.net and those 8 grooved discs in the picture look very good - Is there any noticable difference between those and the ultimax discs?

    Also, I'm after some braided lines, are these something you could supply or perhaps suggest a good make / type to go for? (I'm only aware of Goodridge)

    Finally, could you let me know if the prices you quoted on seatcupra.net are still the same please.

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutty View Post
    are there any laws surrounding brake pads that could come into question here I'm assuming that the ds2500 are perfectly legal. But you know what they say ASSuME
    erm ,they could be made of chocolate and be legal as long as the MOT examiner is convinced and they stop the rollers used to test the brakes at low speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeA3 View Post
    Thanks Bill,

    I think the DS2500's would be more than enough stopping power for me at the moment so that just leaves discs - I read the post you made on seatcupra.net and those 8 grooved discs in the picture look very good - Is there any noticable difference between those and the ultimax discs?

    Also, I'm after some braided lines, are these something you could supply or perhaps suggest a good make / type to go for? (I'm only aware of Goodridge)

    Finally, could you let me know if the prices you quoted on seatcupra.net are still the same please.

    Thanks in advance

    Mike
    8 groove are noisier than eliptical or ultimax ones when used hard..
    HEL lines are what I use, all stainless steel construction.
    SCN prices are current yes
    drop me an email to bill@badger5.co.uk if you want more info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutty View Post
    are there any laws surrounding brake pads that could come into question here I'm assuming that the ds2500 are perfectly legal. But you know what they say ASSuME
    DS2500's are boxed for race use only, because they exceed Reg90, which states aftermarket pads must be +/-15% of original manufacturer spec.. DS2500's exceed this 15% friction coefficient as you would expect an "upgrade" pad to do.. and they box them as they do to make the buying decision the customers. Reality is they look like any other pad when fitted and work from cold/hot better than OE.

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    another little grey area as well is, at what point do you declare to your insurer?

    what about the muppet on remould ditchfinder gypo spec tyres, does he tell his insurer? i expect the guy on R888s has to.

    when you put non-OEM petrol in. when you replace/upgrade the bushes. when you put better pads or brake fluid in.

 

 

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