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    Anyone doing / thinking of doing the sai removal?

    well seeing as my sai pump doesnt work and seems to be on the car for no good reason i thought i would remove it, read the few guides knocking around on the net and seems fairly straight forward, a few fiddly bits but nothing major

    one thing that came to my attention is the fact that i will need a blanking plate to fit on the side of the block where the combi valve would normally enter, now the only place i could find that makes/sells these is in america: http://www.intengineering.com/VW/18T...-p3333558.html

    they are charging $35 for these (roughly 22) plus whatever shipping they want to charge, and also there maybe import/duty tax to pay although im not 100% on that, safe to say 30 is a minimum for this simple metal plate

    being an engineer im more than capable of producing such an item and have access to all the necessary machines/tools needed, so therefore will be making my own blanking plate, it may not be as shiney as the one they are selling but it will be just as functional and a damn sight cheaper

    i thought i would post this on here as i know there are some others out there wanting to do the sai removal too and if those people would like a blanking plate made too i would be more than happy, i think 10 would be fair of me to ask for my time and effort?

    also when i do this i will do a 'how to guide' specifically for the s3 as the ones i am looking at arent and therefore variate slightly, so il get that up asap too

    anyway please post your thoughts on this, and if anyone has found someone producing these plates in the uk let me know as i couldnt find anything!!

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    ahhhhh nice one mate

    will still make my own though, 20 or half hours worth of work (done in works time of course )

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    You will need the seal too, my SAI will be in the bin by weds eve. At 18 quid or so delivered for all the bits required I couldn't fault the forge one.
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    whats the benefits? surely audi put it there for a reason?

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    I followed the fix for a noisey one off the MKiv forum. As I understand it helps to bring exhaust emission to an acceptable level quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunit View Post
    You will need the seal too, my SAI will be in the bin by weds eve. At 18 quid or so delivered for all the bits required I couldn't fault the forge one.
    yer i didnt know forge sold one untill last night, although as said i think il still have a go at doing my own, i will make my own rubber gasket rather than use an 'o' ring seal and see how that goes

    can anyone tell me hwere they got their resistors from, as im having trouble locating any in the uk?
    someone said maplins sold them but looked on their site and they dont do 330 ohm, didnt fancy putting a couple in parallel/series

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny87 View Post
    can anyone tell me hwere they got their resistors from, as im having trouble locating any in the uk?
    someone said maplins sold them but looked on their site and they dont do 330 ohm, didnt fancy putting a couple in parallel/series
    http://cpc.farnell.com/

    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/home.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny87 View Post
    can anyone tell me hwere they got their resistors from, as im having trouble locating any in the uk?
    someone said maplins sold them but looked on their site and they dont do 330 ohm, didnt fancy putting a couple in parallel/series
    I need a 330ohm 10w resistor to replace my N249 valve so I can do away with the frame that sits on top of coilpacks 3 & 4. Am I correct in thinking that you need the resistor to trick the ECU into thinking the SAI is all ok and still connected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westle View Post
    I need a 330ohm 10w resistor to replace my N249 valve so I can do away with the frame that sits on top of coilpacks 3 & 4. Am I correct in thinking that you need the resistor to trick the ECU into thinking the SAI is all ok and still connected?
    Personally if you are retaining the engine covers and not bothered about looks my preference is to leave the valves etc electrically connected whilst bypassing/removing attached pipe work. Less chance of getting it wrong and the ECU going pop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westle View Post
    I need a 330ohm 10w resistor to replace my N249 valve so I can do away with the frame that sits on top of coilpacks 3 & 4. Am I correct in thinking that you need the resistor to trick the ECU into thinking the SAI is all ok and still connected?
    bang on mate, it will stop a warning light coming on on the dash, although when plugged into vagcom you will still get an improper flow messgae for the sai, im sure you can get it coded out if you were really that bothered?

    im going to put a couple of resistors in to replace my n249 too, as atm its tucked under my chargepipe and just want to tidy it up a bit more

    thanks tuffty for putting those links up

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    Quote Originally Posted by tufftybloke View Post
    Personally if you are retaining the engine covers and not bothered about looks my preference is to leave the valves etc electrically connected whilst bypassing/removing attached pipe work. Less chance of getting it wrong and the ECU going pop.

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    I suppose you're right mate, and I am keeping the cover but I just hate seeing the disconnected valve just sitting there all ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c_dog View Post
    I followed the fix for a noisey one off the MKiv forum. As I understand it helps to bring exhaust emission to an acceptable level quicker.
    so whats the benefit from removing it then? anyone?

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    Less weight, more space, less to go wrong etc
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    i cant imagine it weighs much, couple of kilo's at most

    space is a big bonus, having serviced the car on the weekend i found the oil filter a right pita to remove, with sai pump removed it would be a far easier job

    my sai is kaput anyway, so it obviously isnt doing much in the first place so i figured rather than trying to fix it i might aswell remove it!!

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    Any weight is better than no weight, two kilo less is two kilo more fuel on the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunit View Post
    Any weight is better than no weight, two kilo less is two kilo more fuel on the track.
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    is this on BAM engines? i cant seem to find it :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    is this on BAM engines? i cant seem to find it :/
    i could be wrong, but i dont think they put this on the later engines, but like i said dont quote me on it!

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    how long till you do the guide mate?
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    Not on bam or amk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m444ty p View Post
    how long till you do the guide mate?
    will be next weekend now mate, i got too much other stuff on this weekend

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    How is the resister wired in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1animal1 View Post
    is it on AGU's?
    Nope, just the APY I believe.
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