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    GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    This Audi forum is getting so boring now since the 'RS6 RIMS' thread closed (for those that know will know what i'm talking about). At least there was a lot of discussion and 20+ posts each day, people from everywhere coming on to comment.

    Nowadays when i log on theres barely 5 or 6 new posts, in the ICE section its even less. I haven't read a post interesting enough to even make me want to reply to it. It's been completely dead the last few weeks.

    Oh well, might have to kick off another 'debate' just to get it a bit more lively again.

    I do have a issue. Why do people rip BMW's on here, and say they wouldn't have one becuase everyones got one. Well, Audi's are so common, especially the A4. I see double the number of A4's then 3 series (and its not cos they are better).

    I am getting bored of driving my A3, mainly down to the ****ty understeer, which is especially bad when going round a round-about or tight corner. Its ridiculous. Also the steering is dead, lifeless. I love the look of the car, and the build quality, but none of this can make up for the driving experiance, don't matter how good it looks.

    Thinking about trading it for a BMW 320i Coupe, ........ahhhhhhh.......pure driving enjoyment, and anyone who disagrees needs to take their head out their Audi's ass and except that for pure driving enjoyment you can't beat a BMW.

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    No one disagrees, do it, do it, do it.

    Good to hear you've taken my advice, although I seem to remember you got rather upset when I suggested you buy a Beemer.

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    Thats just cos it was you who said it

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    Gee thanks, that's so sweeeet! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/goofy.gif[/img]

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    no worries, anyway, surely past your bedtime??

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    I'm just on my way up. Nitely Nite.

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    LOL

    Pimpmyaudi, get some ARBS and better suspension, should sort out the understeer problem you have. If you want some rear wheel fun, get a beemer.

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    Sorry Pimp, shouldn't this thread be in General? I know how quick you are to tell others about posting in the correct forum, I thought you would know better [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

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    I do have a issue. Why do people rip BMW's on here, and say they wouldn't have one becuase everyones got one. Well, Audi's are so common, especially the A4. I see double the number of A4's then 3 series (and its not cos they are better).

    Thinking about trading it for a BMW 320i Coupe, ........ahhhhhhh.......pure driving enjoyment, and anyone who disagrees needs to take their head out their Audi's ass and except that for pure driving enjoyment you can't beat a BMW.

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    BMW sold 3 times more 3 series than Mondeos last year, common as dog sh1ts in the park!
    But, good cars. Don't get a 320 though, save more and go for a 323/325. The extra power goes a long way and you get 6 cylinders, much better!

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    This Audi forum is getting so boring now since the 'RS6 RIMS' thread closed (for those that know will know what i'm talking about). At least there was a lot of discussion and 20+ posts each day, people from everywhere coming on to comment.

    Nowadays when i log on theres barely 5 or 6 new posts, in the ICE section its even less. I haven't read a post interesting enough to even make me want to reply to it. It's been completely dead the last few weeks.

    Oh well, might have to kick off another 'debate' just to get it a bit more lively again.

    I do have a issue. Why do people rip BMW's on here, and say they wouldn't have one becuase everyones got one. Well, Audi's are so common, especially the A4. I see double the number of A4's then 3 series (and its not cos they are better).

    I am getting bored of driving my A3, mainly down to the ****ty understeer, which is especially bad when going round a round-about or tight corner. Its ridiculous. Also the steering is dead, lifeless. I love the look of the car, and the build quality, but none of this can make up for the driving experiance, don't matter how good it looks.

    Thinking about trading it for a BMW 320i Coupe, ........ahhhhhhh.......pure driving enjoyment, and anyone who disagrees needs to take their head out their Audi's ass and except that for pure driving enjoyment you can't beat a BMW.

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    I would tend to agree that we need some good debates!... Lets just keep them clean this time (not aimed at you!)

    Also, the whole BMW thing is NOT the car, but the stereotype thats pinned to owning the car! There is no doubt about it that BMW are better drivers cars...im sure nobody on here would diasgree with that!

    As for the A3, this can be sorted out with some minor suspension tweeks, larger wheels .etc. My A3 is actually really fun to drive and i know its limits really well so i can always push it... Ive good feedback from the chassis and alwyys know exaclty what the car is doing.

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    Richy,

    But is that becuase of the mods u have done? Was it crap when the setup was standard? Also, do u think that just lowering it with springs will make much difference?

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    Rich,

    But is that becuase of the mods u have done? Was it crap when the setup was standard? Also, do u think that just lowering it with springs will make much difference?

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    Yes it is. When it was standard, it was a bit lifeless in the feedback department... The biggest difference was from changing the 16's (205/55R16) to 17" 225/45R17... Was even better once i put the 18's on. Have to say just changing the springs didnt do MUCH for the handling... It is better, but not as big a difference as you would have thought! Firstly change your wheels and get some good tires! I use nothing but Toyos (tempted to try Goodyear Eagle F1's tho) and they are excellent tyres at a good price... Not alot of other road tyres come close in grip.

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    I do have a issue. Why do people rip BMW's on here, and say they wouldn't have one becuase everyones got one. Well, Audi's are so common, especially the A4. I see double the number of A4's then 3 series (and its not cos they are better).

    Thinking about trading it for a BMW 320i Coupe, ........ahhhhhhh.......pure driving enjoyment, and anyone who disagrees needs to take their head out their Audi's ass and except that for pure driving enjoyment you can't beat a BMW.

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    BMW sold 3 times more 3 series than Mondeos last year, common as dog sh1ts in the park!
    But, good cars. Don't get a 320 though, save more and go for a 323/325. The extra power goes a long way and you get 6 cylinders, much better!

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    But a tenner's worth of petrol isn't gonna get him far in a beemer 6 cylinder lol [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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    If i was that sick of my car and this forum i'd [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[censored].gif[/img]off and by a bmw personaly i like the 3 series and if i wanted one that much i'd go and get one its just personal preferances again but theres not much point been here just to slag audi's off it would go down far better on a bmw site.The straight six does sound sweet though. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

    I think that has been the general consensus all along.
    Hey Pimp do you actually own an Audi or are you just winding us all up?

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    BMW sold 3 times more 3 series than Mondeos last year, common as dog sh1ts in the park!
    But, good cars. Don't get a 320 though, save more and go for a 323/325. The extra power goes a long way and you get 6 cylinders, much better!

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    Was thinking about 323i, (the 320i also has the 6 cyl engine by the way), but only they are a lot harder to find. The most common are 318is, but they don't have the 6 cyl engine.

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    Yes it is. When it was standard, it was a bit lifeless in the feedback department... The biggest difference was from changing the 16's (205/55R16) to 17" 225/45R17... Was even better once i put the 18's on. Have to say just changing the springs didnt do MUCH for the handling... It is better, but not as big a difference as you would have thought! Firstly change your wheels and get some good tires! I use nothing but Toyos (tempted to try Goodyear Eagle F1's tho) and they are excellent tyres at a good price... Not alot of other road tyres come close in grip.

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    Yea i am gonna get 18"'s, as you lot probably know i was gonna get 19" spinners, but i'm told the tires would cost an arm and leg, and also i wouldn't be able to lower it as much. So i'm gonna go with 18", most likely chromes (unless i can get spinners from the US). This is if i decide to keep the car, which i probably will for a while. I'm gonna lower it purely for the looks, so i'm not too bothered about the handling, but i just want to get rid of the annoying understeer mainly.

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    But a tenner's worth of petrol isn't gonna get him far in a beemer 6 cylinder lol [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]



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    Lol, somehow i don't think so. I think a tenners worth of petrol would last longer in a Bentley then it does in my car.

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    If i was that sick of my car and this forum i'd <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/[censored].gif" alt="" />off and by a bmw personaly i like the 3 series and if i wanted one that much i'd go and get one its just personal preferances again but theres not much point been here just to slag audi's off it would go down far better on a bmw site.The straight six does sound sweet though. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    I'm far from sick of my car. I have said many times that i love the car, i love the looks, i love the build quality etc etc. What i am sick of is the handling, and to a lesser extent the low MPG. The A3 is in the same class as cars like Golf, Rover MGR's (200 series), BMW Compact, Seat Cupra's and other hatchbacks. Now, in terms of price and the badge, the A3 should be the best of them all. But when it comes to handling and driving enjoyment, most of the other cars that are a lot cheaper beat it hands down, and i just don't think this should be the case with such a premium car.

    At the end of the day, yes this is a Audi website. But the fact is that i own an Audi myself, that i have paid for, and i think that gives me just as much right to express my views on a Audi forum as anyone else. Whether them views are pro/con Audi, well again i have the right to decide that. Just becuase i am on a Audi forum, doesn't mean i am not allowed to critisis Audi's. If other people don't like my opinions, tough Sh**IT. I'm not going to go an a BMW forum (when i don't even own a BMW) just to slag off Audi, if i feel a need to do it, i'll do it on a Audi forum, as i think that makes slightly more sense.

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    I think that has been the general consensus all along.
    Hey Pimp do you actually own an Audi or are you just winding us all up?

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    Er, last time i checked, i did.

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    I was going to buy a 3 series before I got my A3 but they were just sooo common and being adopted by the drug and bling brigade (well the E36 as that was all I could afford) As said though, is your 1.6 auto got standard shocks etc as opposed to a sport setup? I notice a big difference getting 17" alloys and 225x45R17 pilot sports on it from my "fatal slip" 15" tyres. I have recently felt the car understeering a bit more and wondered if the tyres had gone off but I looked at the speedo. Its amazing how quickly you get used to something and take it for granted LOL. If I change my A3 for another car it will be for a the turbo'd version or if I win the lottery an S3. Your right, its not the best handling in its class but it can be improved and it looks and feels good.

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    Pimpmyaudi said:
    "I'm gonna lower it purely for the looks, so i'm not too bothered about the handling, but i just want to get rid of the annoying understeer mainly"
    Isn't understeer a characteristic of handling?

    "But when it comes to handling and driving enjoyment, most of the other cars that are a lot cheaper beat it hands down, and i just don't think this should be the case with such a premium car."
    As you know, model for model, Golfs and Seats are exactly the same car as your A3. So it's not gonna handle any differently to the equivalent VW/Seat/Skoda model.
    Yes, for the same money you could have got something further up the range if you went with Seat, but you'd be looking at 6k+ for a 20vT Cupra, so hardly a like for like comparison.
    At the end of the day, someone who bought your model (1.6 auto) from new is not gonna care about the handling, or understeer, they will have just wanted the A3 looks/build for the least amount of money, so of course the handling will be compromised, of course it will be underpowered and as it turns out less economical. Although I still don't understand your high fuel consumption, when you can easily get 32-38mpg from a 1.8T.

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    I was going to buy a 3 series before I got my A3 but they were just sooo common and being adopted by the drug and bling brigade (well the E36 as that was all I could afford) As said though, is your 1.6 auto got standard shocks etc as opposed to a sport setup? I notice a big difference getting 17" alloys and 225x45R17 pilot sports on it from my "fatal slip" 15" tyres. I have recently felt the car understeering a bit more and wondered if the tyres had gone off but I looked at the speedo. Its amazing how quickly you get used to something and take it for granted LOL. If I change my A3 for another car it will be for a the turbo'd version or if I win the lottery an S3. Your right, its not the best handling in its class but it can be improved and it looks and feels good.

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    Yea its got the standard setup, i'm gonna do the lowering at the same time when i change my alloys, so hopefully that should improve things.

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    dude tell ya what,..since youve been on here , you've def stirred things up!! to be honest pimp the a3/ s3 is a classy car...one i dont think suits being blinged up (just my opinion) refined and subtle, yet agressive in its undertones is the basic building block of any audi, thats the way it should be kept, glad you didnt do the spinners. dude its a great car,..human nature will always find a fault,...trust me the bmw will have one, not a dig at bmw here,..will be nexting one next year, but find a car with 0 faults???..ill be surprised

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    Pimp, one of the mods you might want to make specifically to cut understeer is fit a rear anti-roll bar, if it doesn't already have one. If it does already have one, fit a thicker one!

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    Pimpmyaudi said:
    "I'm gonna lower it purely for the looks, so i'm not too bothered about the handling, but i just want to get rid of the annoying understeer mainly"
    Isn't understeer a characteristic of handling?

    "But when it comes to handling and driving enjoyment, most of the other cars that are a lot cheaper beat it hands down, and i just don't think this should be the case with such a premium car."
    As you know, model for model, Golfs and Seats are exactly the same car as your A3. So it's not gonna handle any differently to the equivalent VW/Seat/Skoda model.
    Yes, for the same money you could have got something further up the range if you went with Seat, but you'd be looking at 6k+ for a 20vT Cupra, so hardly a like for like comparison.
    At the end of the day, someone who bought your model (1.6 auto) from new is not gonna care about the handling, or understeer, they will have just wanted the A3 looks/build for the least amount of money, so of course the handling will be compromised, of course it will be underpowered and as it turns out less economical. Although I still don't understand your high fuel consumption, when you can easily get 32-38mpg from a 1.8T.

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    Yes understeer is a characteristic of handling, but what i'm saying is that i am not lowering it to sort that out, im lowering it for looks. I meant handling as in how flat is can corner etc, not understeer, anyway confusing.

    The comparison i made is with the A3, and other cars in its class. It doesn't make any difference what i personally paid for MY A3, as its still the same car whether i brought 2nd hand for 5000 or new for 15000. I am comparing the A3 to other cars in its CLASS, not other cars in the price range that i paid. When you are comparing models of cars, it doesn't really matter how much your own one cost, as long as the cars are in the same range, ie typew range (A3 v Golf/3 Series v A4) price range (as in what they cost new). So when you compare A3 to them others, its not anywhere near as good to drive. Also, Seats and VW's might share same engine/parts, but (although i haven't driven one) i don't think they are gonna drive/handle the same as well. They all have their own individual setup and handling.

    Also, yeah might be true for a auto model from new, but at the same time, all the A3's handle rubbish, not just the 1.6 auto. Even the S3, for what it is, handles crap compared to other cars in its range.

    And finally i don't understand my fuel consumption either, but obviously your 1.8 would be better as its manual and more powerful so more efficient engine. Also i think autos weigh more then manuals.

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    And finally i don't understand my fuel consumption either, but obviously your 1.8 would be better as its manual and more powerful so more efficient engine. Also i think autos weigh more then manuals.

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    It's not so much the weight. They are heavier, but not by very much. It's the torque converter. Until the lock-up engages, a torque converter is only about 96% efficient at best in transmitting the engine's power to the gearbox, whereas a healthy friction clutch can transmit 100%. Does the A3 automatic have a torque converter lock? If so, what speed does it engage at?

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    That's true enough, but you'd think a turbo engine would be worse than a 1.6, although I don't know what people get out of their 1.8 non-turbo, maybe the turbo is actually the best combination (as long as you don't cane it everywhere).

    I guess 4WD curtails the understeer a bit on an S3. I've never driven an S3 but have hacked about in my mates A3 1.8T Quattro and I have to say I've never driven a hatchback that can corner like it. I would be very surprised to find any hatchback in that 22k price range that could keep up with it round a big roundabout. You have to really try hard to get it out of shape, and then it annoyingly corrects itself. Not as exciting as a rear wheel drive beemer, but then you won't end up in a ditch quite so often.
    What tyres have you got? My mate's running Goodyear F1's and they're very impressive. My A3 1.8T had Dunlops on it when I got it, and it was terrible, wheelspin in every gear, and just didn't inspire confident cornering. Got them changed for P6000's and the car was transformed.

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    I think Pimp is being 'stereotypical' again! What he really means is that he would prefer a BMW 318 with an M3 bodykit and badge, and perhaps a 'tad' more jewelry....... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img]

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    jeff,
    I dunno if it has locking torque converter, i don't know enough about engines to know how to tell if its cutting in or not if it does have one. I thought that all modern torque converters, when they get to a certain rate (in terms of spinning) lock together, producing maximum efficiency? I think its right that they only loose that 5-10% of power when the 2 parts are not spinning at the same speed, but they then get to a point where they ARE spinning at almost the same rate, but maybe lower models don't have that lock. Also, i thought it was impossible to make a torque conv to spin at EXACTLY the same rate? might be wrong.

    Andy,
    I dunno if you were asking me the question or someone else, but at the moment i have just the standard wheels/tyres, i suppose when i get my new wheels it should help things.

    just plain old,
    please, come out with something new mate.

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    forgot to say,

    I don't really think its the handling AS SUCH, i was doing 90mph the other day and the handling was brilliant, even better then my last car, which was a sports coupe.

    The problem is just that, for example, when you go round a tight corner at say, 35mph, you have to pull so hard on the steering wheel, and it seems you have to turn it so much to get the car to actually turn, and even then, it still understeers. The reason why i always compare it to a BMW 3 series, is becuase i have driven loads of them, including my brothers. Even though it is a 4 door saloon, when you go round a tight corner, the steering is so sharp, it just goes where you want it to, you can feel the road, the slightest adjustment to the steering will convert straight to the wheels. Basically in the A3, the connection between the steering and the wheels just isn't as sharp and responsive. And at the end of the day, this is one of the main things you notice when driving it.

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    BTW, for some reason, i have been seeing A3's left right and centre recently. Especially S3's, must have seen at least 5 different ones in the last 2 weeks. I hardly used to see them before. Also im suprised at the number of 4 door A3's as well.

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    The beemer won't understeer anywhere near as much as the A3 as it's rear wheel drive, and out of your "class comparsons" the Golf is pretty much the same car (maybe duller) but the Seat is set up more "sporty" and aimed at that market. The A3 is aimed at a specific sort of poeple (probably people that won't be on this forum) and therefore lacks the "fun" that you'd get with others.
    You said you were going to lower it purely for looks, why not spend a bit more, and try and help the understeer problem a bit?

    Rob,

    P.S. Just read what i've typed, sounds a bit un-intentionally rude. Sorry dude!

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    To be honest though there's nowt wrong with the a3 1.6 auto but then again you just ask your self why bother modding it,its not like your going to meet an s3 and kick its arse,the best thing todo is to save your money and either buy a bmw,audi or whatever takes your fancy because by the time youve finished modding the old autobox it still wont be in the same class of performance and they money you spent doing it would have morethan likely got you a better handling faster car.You also tend to notice cars more when your on the look out for them aswell i never saw many s3's till i got mune the they just seemed to crawled out of the wood work.

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    I think Pimp is being 'stereotypical' again! What he really means is that he would prefer a BMW 318 with an M3 bodykit and badge, and perhaps a 'tad' more jewelry....... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img]

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    And whats wrong with one of these?

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    BTW, for some reason, i have been seeing A3's left right and centre recently. Especially S3's, must have seen at least 5 different ones in the last 2 weeks. I hardly used to see them before. Also im suprised at the number of 4 door A3's as well.

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    I thinks its because you own an A3, and you tend to look or notice them more, trying to get some inspiration for your next mod.

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    pimp said
    "Andy,
    I dunno if you were asking me the question or someone else, but at the moment i have just the standard wheels/tyres, i suppose when i get my new wheels it should help things."

    But what tyres? Tyre choice can transform the handling, if you're unlucky enough to have Dunlop so called Sport tyres then you will have problems. The tyre that never wears out, and that's supposed to be a good thing. 69k miles on the rear of my old Mk3 Golf GTi, that must be some record. In the end had to put them on the front and trash them to get the lease company to change the b*ggers.

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    Re: GETTING VERY BORING NOW......

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    I think Pimp is being 'stereotypical' again! What he really means is that he would prefer a BMW 318 with an M3 bodykit and badge, and perhaps a 'tad' more jewelry....... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img]

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    And whats wrong with one of these?

    [/ QUOTE ]IT NEEDS SPINERS HOW MANY TIMES DO PEOPLE NEED TO BE TOLD [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh_roll.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif[/img]

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    I'm out of touch - what the hell are spinners? they aren't like the wheel trims you get that part of them doesnt rotate with the wheel?

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    Something like these beauties.
    Would suit any Audi. Go on you know you want to....

 

 
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