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    SMOKED BY A POLO!?

    Hey all, So casually cruising through slightly large roundabout today an this little cock pulls right out in front of me. So thought to myself... no im not having that lol! so just hit that second gear an magnetise to the arse of his bumper right round the roundabout going back down the hill, too much traffic about so thot id just bail at the next roundabout. YEY! he goes right too with an open bit of road. Two of uz sink it and the bugger starts pulling away from with a cloud of black smoke behind it!!!! ran out of road to eventually catch him but i couldnt believe it! I almost hated my car after that what could it have been?

    It was a 2008 reg polo n by the looks of things it was diesel, do they really have that sort of power to beat an S3? By the looks of it all the guy might have had was a remap at most.

    Thats a few cars iv exspected to beat and they'v kept up no problem or beat me completely. The other night a 1.9 diesel vectra was keeping up with me! I was only pulling away at about 85/90mph.

    Starting to think the car might not be up to the power it should have... Is a rolling road the best way to check it? If so how much is a rolling road gonna cost me?

    225 BHP btw lol 2002

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    Your car isn't running right, a vectra diesel should be no where, maf is the obvious answer, though it could be something else...
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    Could have been a derv running a big map on it, my mates TDi Ibiza's mapped with a few tweaks and its on the money. Not much of a power band but when its in it....kerblammo!.
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    The wee thing still had the verve sticker on the back window! lol well my mate had the 225 TT n said a 1.9 diesel astra kept up with him? 2006+ plate vauxhalls im talking about...

    What about the rolling road idea?

    Iv just had 4 new coils and a brand new maf sensor 3 days ago

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    There is a skoda favorit around here which is a derv and played with in a big way. Boy does it go with lot's of black smoke i would'nt worry too much mate if there was plenty of black it was probly well tuned up.

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    There was a Mk2 Golf that used to race at the pod that was a diesel, ran low 13's I seem to remember...with huge amounts of black smoke and turbo whine

    My next car might be an oil burner, I quite fancy 40+ MPG and bags of grunt.

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    Yea i remember that it went really well the guy now has a mk2 golf pick up the the same engine in it

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    there's a lot of these threads popping up at the moment. This is the problem now a days mate. A simple oil burner with a remap can cause us all kinds of issues.
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    Theres a Skoda driver round here with over 300bhp to the wheels in his pd fabia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan1973 View Post
    Yea i remember that it went really well the guy now has a mk2 golf pick up the the same engine in it

    I used to love seeing that car run, mainly for the smoke it used to produce!
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    Auch am gutted! I want my car to be a power house! stupi things keep up n i hate it!

    Can anyone give me a rough price for a rolling road to give me some stats??

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevoS3 View Post
    Auch am gutted! I want my car to be a power house! stupi things keep up n i hate it!

    Can anyone give me a rough price for a rolling road to give me some stats??

    Power runs are about 30 ish I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A3Tom View Post
    Power runs are about 30 ish I think.
    Nice thanks, would it be possible to compare the figures to another S3?

    I've got KnN panel filter and Forge DV.

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    Remaps are so cheap and easy to do these days that every tom dick and harry with a turbo'd car is running one.

    You need to step up the game these days just to see off a sodding polo!

    I drew a stale mate in the summer against an old astra gte which sounded like it was throttle bodied but I was still disapointed.
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    A polo diesel with a remap will shift, probably have about 180bhp and lots of torque, still I'd expect you to be quicker, could be time for a remap yourself...

    My A3 with 194 bhp was quicker than my mates A3 tdi remapped, so an S3 standard should be quicker also...diesels are quick but they haven't got the power band to follow you up above 60mph when rolling...
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    My mate had an Astra GTE 16v on throttle boddies, very quick car, back then they didn't have the safety features that later cars do, weight is a big factor...
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    I've surprised a few modern cars in my modded Midget! Power-to-weight a big factor there.
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    I think a standard S3 power and torque wise is below par these days with current torquey diesels (often mapped) knocking about.

    Get yourself a remap to make sure they're kept in check!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westle View Post
    there's a lot of these threads popping up at the moment. This is the problem now a days mate. A simple oil burner with a remap can cause us all kinds of issues.
    This just goes to prove that there's always something faster out there!

    Looks pretty wet out there also, not much is going to keep up with you now lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    there's always something faster out there!

    Definately true! No matter what you own and what you do to it something will come along and show you.
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    erm, a diesel putting out black smoke is heavily tuned?
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    My Discovery puts out black smoke, but thats not tuned!!!
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    I think everybody is forgetting the 4wd transmission loss and S3's are slow as in standard form.
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    i think you forget the tranmission loss is from standing starts, rolling your gear will be engaged to a large degree and so shouldn't take that much effect when compared a 2wd....id say theres sumat wrong with his car, no Polo out there mapped or not would give you hassle, all apart from the 1.8T of which im unsure what turbo is hitched up....power to weight is defo against ya regardless. Regards the Vectra, theres no way anything except the 3.2 should be giving you any grief, id say you have an issue with your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevoS3 View Post
    Hey all, So casually cruising through slightly large roundabout today an this little cock pulls right out in front of me. So thought to myself... no im not having that lol! so just hit that second gear an magnetise to the arse of his bumper right round the roundabout going back down the hill, too much traffic about so thot id just bail at the next roundabout. YEY! he goes right too with an open bit of road. Two of uz sink it and the bugger starts pulling away from with a cloud of black smoke behind it!!!! ran out of road to eventually catch him but i couldnt believe it! I almost hated my car after that what could it have been?

    It was a 2008 reg polo n by the looks of things it was diesel, do they really have that sort of power to beat an S3? By the looks of it all the guy might have had was a remap at most.

    Thats a few cars iv exspected to beat and they'v kept up no problem or beat me completely. The other night a 1.9 diesel vectra was keeping up with me! I was only pulling away at about 85/90mph.

    Starting to think the car might not be up to the power it should have... Is a rolling road the best way to check it? If so how much is a rolling road gonna cost me?

    225 BHP btw lol 2002
    probably a Pd130, remapped..... and yes they will out accelerate a lardy S3
    muchos torque and about 180bhp from them and a few hundred kg less to drag around

    you've been 'smoked' - quite litterally

    If you come across a PD170 mk6 gofl TDi, dont even bother trying, as once mapped, they will simply leave you in their wake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csweatherston View Post
    Theres a Skoda driver round here with over 300bhp to the wheels in his pd fabia.
    Very intresting build.
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    just wait until its anything other than bone dry, and then you will have a chance with 4wd whilst his tcs keeps flashing disco lights at him.
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    in that case i stand corrected
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    The guy who did my remap (Mark from Chip n' Spin) has a mk4 golf 1.9 (150ps) TDI that he'd remaped to over 300lb torque and he said he's worried a few Imprezas. And I notice that you can get a 1.9 (130ps) Diesel engine in the polo!
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    Looks like Bill beat me to it!
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    previously owned a leon cupra tdi, tuned etc too around 220bhp 450nm of torque, used to upset focus rs owners etc until top end

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    It sounds like its time to sell up and get a smoke machine
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    got 2 friends with 1.9 TDI engines (Bora + VRS). Both are mapped and both are very torquey (300lb ft) and before I had my S3 they did feel pretty rapid, now they feel ordinary, thought one was broke. On the road even with there extra 100 lbs ft of torque they dont keep up with my un mapped S3.

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    My brothers remapped mk4 gttdi can keep up with me up steep hills lol. Ish.

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    remapped 130pd polo will drive away from a stock s3, and keep up pull away from a remapped one in my experience... dammit..

    devils fuel.. should'nt be possible.. should'nt be allowed - lol - and they're doing 40mpg whilst doing it too..

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    dont they tail off quite quickly though? ive always had the thought that diesels were more heavily modified when turbo'd that there wouldnt be as much left for remapping.....and because they were tuned with turbos to turn the normally crappy lump into a decent runabout, then once the turbo tails off, your left with a bogged down pile of metal
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    must structure my sentences better, im getting worse!!
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    Keep telling yourself that Tim. I'm sure you'll have a run in with one soon and it'll no doubt oblitorate you! I look forward to the thread, "Just been spanked.....again"
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    yup probably, at least i'll be less bothered when it happens
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    lmfao, love my derv, just awaiting the custom map now I fitted my hybrid, smoke you later, lol.

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