Jimmeh vs Audi S3 *FULL REPORT*

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Morning chaps. I've been around for some time now, but have recently had a few topics aound regards my new S3 - Hibiscus Red. I've finally got round to working on it and bringing it back up too scratch.

The following was written on behalf of DetailingWorld.co.uk - feel free to question me at the end with any issues/ideas. I must warn, it's quite a long read (esp. now the images have had to be made into links!) - grab a cuppa, a cookie or two and enjoy - thanks.

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Having taken a few days off work, I’ve finally got round to putting some life back into my new car. (Audi S3 – 2001) I have splashed several photos around already, but just to let you know of it’s condition prior to my detail:

Drivers side R ¼:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/DSC09308Large.jpg

Bonnet:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/DSC09310Large.jpg

I think it’s fair to say I quite a big job ahead of me.

So, Wednesday I loaded up and drove some 10m to my Fathers (use the double garage!), as the forecast was a bit touch and go and I didn’t fancy my chances. Turns out, the weather held for the majority but still, better safe than sorry.

Before I get in too deep, I’d just like to note that this job was carried through over two days. My first day was mainly spent machine polishing with an abrasive compound, and the second day was spent refining the finish/wet-sanding/details…

Process and Pictures

Wheels worked with Megs WB, Swissvax wheel brush and EZ Detail Brush…
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09656Custom.jpg


Foamed with SSF and AB foam Lance (awaiting my additional plastic connector)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09658Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09659Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09660Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09661Custom.jpg


Rinsed at full power to remove surface dirt
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09663Custom.jpg


Washed with TBM with Megs GC and my Ulti-mit
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09665Custom.jpg


Spritzed with Megs LT and dried.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09667Custom.jpg


Rolled into the garage for the work to begin.

General swirlage on the bonnet:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09697Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09699Custom.jpg


Test patch on the bonnet with Menz IP on a Lake Country(?) orange cutting pad
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09676Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09678Custom.jpg


After a pass with the PC:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09705Custom.jpg

Massive transformation but plenty of room for improvement.

My Menz IP ran out, so I stepped up to Megs #83.

I used small spot pads for those hard to reach areas (and the difficult angles)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09706Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09709Custom.jpg

A fair few nicks and RDS were left, however the refining stage was too follow.

Drivers side Wing before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09712Custom.jpg

and after:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09710Custom.jpg


50/50 on same area:



http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09727Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09731Custom.jpg

(^this area was hit again)


More drivers’ side wing before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09753Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09756Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09760Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09761Custom.jpg


After:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09763Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09766Custom.jpg


50/50:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09770Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09778Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09785Custom.jpg


Drivers side wing/arch before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09787Custom.jpg


Buffing:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09789Custom.jpg


After:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09792Custom.jpg


A random mark on the drivers door. Looks to have been brillo’d in a previous life:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09805Custom.jpg

^This proved to be a pain to remove. Will require some soft wet-sanding at a later date.

General 50/50 on drivers door:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09830Custom.jpg

Driver door handle/areas before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09833Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09835Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09836Custom.jpg


Afters:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09840Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09842Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09843Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09844Custom.jpg


Drivers side R ¼ before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09846Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09847Custom.jpg

Before 50/50 work carried out..
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09850Custom.jpg

50/50:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC09855.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09864Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09885Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09891Custom.jpg

and upper R ¼ before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09914Custom.jpg

after:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09915Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09922Custom.jpg


After noticing a poor effort at the front end I revisited the wing. Before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09933Custom.jpg


and after:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09936Custom.jpg


The nasty mark still remains:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09937Custom.jpg


Passenger side R upper ¼ before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09965Custom.jpg

and after:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09971Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09975Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09979Custom.jpg


Passenger side rear cluster before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09985Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09986Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09987Custom.jpg


After:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09988Custom.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09990Custom.jpg


Drivers side rear cluster before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00086.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00087.jpg

After:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00090.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00092.jpg


The car had collected a sheet of dust throughout the polishing stages so was returned outside for a quick wash. Et voila, end of day 1.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC09999Custom.jpg

Oh, and I stupidly ran over my Megs LT spray bottle.. Nightmare. It was full. It made a huge explosion, scared the life out of me, and a passing dog, and covered my freshly washed car in a rich mix of detail spray. Heh. (Could be worse….)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/folder II/DSC00004Custom.jpg


Day two. Again, the weather looks bad, so I re-pack the car and set off down the road to fathers. Pre-wash, TBM wash, dried and back into the garage for the refining polish.

Although I used Megs #83 to cut, I went with Menz FF to refine over Megs #80 as I am a bit more familiar with FF.


Drivers side F wing before (after correction with Megs #83):
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00007.jpg

Drivers side F wing after Menz FF:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00011.jpg


FF going onto the bonnet:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00016.jpg


Before: (shocking attempt!)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00020.jpg

^note the buffer trials too

and After:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00023.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00025.jpg

Given another quick hit to take some bad bits:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00031.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00037.jpg

Polish worked to residue is clear:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00034.jpg

Bonnet finished:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00044.jpg


Time to work down the sides of the car. I started with the Drivers side working my way back..

Two small pea-sized blobs of FF on a Blue spot pad:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00050.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00051.jpg

Drivers side pretty much refined and LSP ready:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00054.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00056.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00057.jpg

(still some small RDS)


http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00062.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00063.jpg

Onto the tailgate – Before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00075.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00079.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00081.jpg

and some bad after shots:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00082.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00084.jpg


Now, with where I was, I was quite happy. I knew I had one or two areas yet to look at, but progress was good. I wasn’t expecting such results from the VAG paint and a PC. Pretty smug about it all at this point.

Moving back to the front of the car I noticed the headlights could do with a spruce.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00104.jpg

Swirls/random scratches and rough marks that were stealing their crystal look.

A few hits with Megs Scratch-X/#83 on a orange spot pad and I was left with:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00107.jpg

Better. But again, room for improvement.

I put some 2000 wet/dry paper in some fairy liquid to soak some 30 minutes before my actions, but I went on to douse the headlight with LastTouch and lightly work the area to remove and stubborn/oxidised bits:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00110.jpg

Which when dry, left me with:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00112.jpg

(Nothing too serious, I wanted to be careful not to apply too much pressure)

The sanding marks were hit again with a mix of Megs #83/Scratch-X:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00115.jpg

Muchos better. (in real life anyway, tough to tell the difference on the photos)

Passenger side headlight before:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00133.jpg

During:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00134.jpg

Sanding marks: (note the scuff on the bumper, this is my next job)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00135.jpg

After:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00137.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00139.jpg

So, moving on to that scuff, I used the same approach as I used for the headlights. Wet n Dry, Megs #83 and a cut spot pad.

Scuff before: (quite hard to photograph, but it was quite evident and stood out ‘well’)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00146.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00143.jpg

Sanded:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00145.jpg

(I must get myself a sanding block, everywhere is currently sold out!?)

After several hits with #83:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00147.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00164.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00166.jpg

There too was a bad scuff on the passenger side rear bumper. The usual places where people decide to drive/reverse into bins/shopping trolleys/small animals and children:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00153.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00154.jpg

I wasn’t expecting 100% improvement here, it really was just a quick ‘seeing too’.. I had to be soon packed up and away as it was getting late in the day.

Rear side scuff after:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00163.jpg


The whole car (minus the lowers (under bump strips! :()) is now LSP ready:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00167.jpg

However it again had collected some serious dustage so I ran around with (a NEW) bottle of LastTouch and wiped clear with a clean MF:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00168.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00171.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00172.jpg


Victoria Concours applied and buffed:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00175.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00179.jpg


Finished. Now to do some small details. The tyres were dressed. Wheels wiped. Windows cleaned quickly annnd.. that was about it. Oh, the exhaust was scrubbed up too.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00185.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00191.jpg

Packed up and put round the front to sit in the sun for a bit of an inspection:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/Jimm3hh/Audi S3/DSC00200.jpg

DSC00204.jpg


DSC00205.jpg


DSC00206.jpg


DSC00209.jpg


DSC00211.jpg


I hope to get some better after pictures at some point today.

So in the end there are still areas yet to tackle (lower door sills, revisit the scuffs and remove some RDS throughout..) but I’m pretty chuffed with what I have achieved. Inadequate PC experience I thought would let me down, however I hung on tight and I worked wonders for me. :)

Thanks for reading once again, I’m knackered now and I have a MASSIVE bird bomb smack in the centre of the bonnet. How annoying. Also, can I just note the pictures do the colour no justice, at all.. It really is quite a dark plum/maroon colour - it's lovely. "Hibiscus Red" for you Audi nuts.

Today’s job: well, not a lot really. Meet some guys for lunch. Cruise over to my local Audi Dealership and then given the chance, see about doing some more wet-sanding.
 
Great stuff, going to have a proper read when I have time and use some methods on my hibiscus A4 as your S3 looks great, bet you dont need to go gym for a few weeks now! Told you it looks good when all clean and spangly, now you can see the steady transformation to poo colour again as it gets dirty!
 
Great stuff, going to have a proper read when I have time and use some methods on my hibiscus A4 as your S3 looks great, bet you dont need to go gym for a few weeks now! Told you it looks good when all clean and spangly, now you can see the steady transformation to poo colour again as it gets dirty!

Thanks mate!

I know what you mean, it looks a different car when it's dull and dusty! Mind, the photos don't do the car any justice at all right now.. it hasn't captured the true colour very well (looks far to bright/vivid)
 
well done, that car looks amazing. Really like the colour.
 
Plus, you get the added benefit that a clean car goes faster than a dirty car....stands to reason!

Why is that!? It's so true... It drives nicer and feels faster! Strange.

Had a fella Audi driver chase me on the way back through from Audi Lincoln.. quite what model it was I don't know (8P A3) but he couldn't catch up until I let him passed at 72mph and he gave a nod and a thumbs up - heh. I've actually just been to book the car in for the corrsion on the roof rail - audi's 12 year corrsion warranty.
 
Why is that!? It's so true... It drives nicer and feels faster! Strange.

Agree, aerodynamics. The car just flows through as the bodywork is all smooth and silky so less friction
 
Oh, nice work by the way I read your thread on DW and you've done yourself proud

Going to be doing my minging blue S3 at some point and hope to do as good a job.
 
hmm, tough to say Sammy without seeing it. I'm by no means a 'pro' at this game.. I've only had a go at the wet sanding a few times.. No doubt one of the guys from the Detailing Side of things will be able to help you more here. Do you have a picture?
 
Jimmeh, good job there mate, really brought the colour of the car out with what you have done, looks even better knowing that its such a rare colour on your car.

Well done
 
Thanks all - having just had to make a quick dash to get some hayfeaver tablets (its a pain in the ***!) I returned to the car sat in all it's glory, side on to the sun. It actually looked stunning.

One thing that did let it down was white stonechipped(?) area on the rear arch. Is there anyway I can fix this?! Respray!? :(

DSC00206.jpg
 
ten out of ten for effort matey cant fault your enthusiasm im knackered just reading about all the hard work .looks the bogs dollocks
 
I've got the same white area on my rear arch. Looks even worse on black - let us know if you find a solution!
 
Fantastic job done! I have never seen an S3 this colour before - very nice and a little different.

But I too have those white marks on the lower-front arch (Nog Blue 2002 S3). I think there is some sort of clear plastic over the paint (I can't check at the moment as it is tipping it down outside right now).

If someone finds a way to fix this then please share!

Thanks all - having just had to make a quick dash to get some hayfeaver tablets (its a pain in the ***!) I returned to the car sat in all it's glory, side on to the sun. It actually looked stunning.

One thing that did let it down was white stonechipped(?) area on the rear arch. Is there anyway I can fix this?! Respray!? :(

DSC00206.jpg
 
i had stone chips there too, but a couple of them were zinc corrosion, so along with the roof rails, and a few £ the whole car was painted by Audi, looks like new now

might be worth getting these 2 areas checked out and speaking to your local dealer/approved bodyshop
 
Oh really? See, I've only just been across to book it in for the corrosion on the roof rails (warranty job..) I'll have to add this in and see what they say.

Thanks everyone.
 
Green Cotten Panel Filter

So I've dug through the archives and I understand the way forward IS to keep the standard paper filter, it does the job, to be replaced every 10k and is cheap - however, I'm intregued to hear the noise from the new Green cotten panel.

I've located one on the Green-Filter website (believe it or not..) and it's just shy of £50. does this sound about right?
http://www.green-filter.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=202331

A bit of a long shot, but I don't suppose anyone has managed to pick up the induction noise on a video clip have they?
 
Jimmeh, i had a pipercross panel in my old s3 and didnt notice any difference!! save the 50quid and put it towards some new rimage!!
 
You need a full induction kit to get that noise, a replacement panel will do nothing.
 
Okay, thanks guys.. I wasn't after anything too spectacular, just from what I'd read the 'vacuum' noise that the GCPF gives, took my attention.
 
wow thats very impressive thought id done a good job on mine when i brought it but wow thats just made mine look trash lol
 
Why is that!? It's so true... It drives nicer and feels faster! Strange.

Had a fella Audi driver chase me on the way back through from Audi Lincoln.. quite what model it was I don't know (8P A3) but he couldn't catch up until I let him passed at 72mph and he gave a nod and a thumbs up - heh. I've actually just been to book the car in for the corrsion on the roof rail - audi's 12 year corrsion warranty.

wo wo mines got the little bit bubblin under the paint on the roof rails, how come audi will do it under warranty
 
It's part of their customer service I guess. They do a 12 year corrosion warranty on all models.

See HERE for details Jimmy.