'Ring Trip Preperation

grathies

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Off to Zee Ring at the beggining of april, just working out what I need to do and check before I go

So far Im gonna do an Oil Change, Coolant Change, Filters, Change back to my other pads up front as well as new fluid and bleed, get my wheels ballanced and pick up a spare MAF and dig out my other coil packs

Anything else you guys would be checking, replacing or packing?

Obviously got my warning triangles, reflective vest and other legal requirements
 
Need a 1st Aid kit for germany mate, you'll also need to flick over your headlights to LHD once your there
Wish i was going! :D
 
Yeah thats cool, Ill have to check how to do that!

BTW ash, dont suppose you have any standard length wheel bolts left from your old S3 do you? After like 10 but dont wanna pay a main dealer for them

Should be a good laugh, going with my mates who are all Renault boys but track days etc are always a laugh with them
 
Fuel Filter - picked one up today for £8 (vw dealer) worth changing it seeing it is so cheap?

Also, the Audi dealer said that they do not change them on the A3 1.8T but the VW dealers do on the 1.8T Golf....strange
 
Petrol fuel filters never got changed under the normal service schedule when I was at VW

Diesels yes as they trap alot of water, so need to be drained off but people never do

Good call on that tho, worth doing I guess
 
I always think its worth taking a torque wrench. Check them each morning and then before you leave to drive the 250+ miles back to calais
 
grathies said:
Yeah thats cool, Ill have to check how to do that!

BTW ash, dont suppose you have any standard length wheel bolts left from your old S3 do you? After like 10 but dont wanna pay a main dealer for them

Should be a good laugh, going with my mates who are all Renault boys but track days etc are always a laugh with them

ive got a few, not 10 though, maybe 8 at a push, il have a look mate
PM me to remind me!!
 
Ok then mate nice one, I may only need 4, cant remember how many I found. Having some spacer issues thats all!
 
Enough Euros for lots of laps and petrol, and remember to warm your car up before joining the queue and go for a drive slowly away from the track after to let it cool down again.

I'm not sure that it's worth changing the coolant, it's either doing it's job or not. The only things I'd really worry about would be brakes and make sure your oil isn't too old.
 
Only reason I want to do coolant is that its been in there for ages and I have a think about good quality coolant (comes from years of driving Golfs that reek of coolant in traffic!)
 
granties how many do you need mate? i got a few cause i've only just changed the wheels and some new shiny ones.
 
S3ren said:
granties how many do you need mate? i got a few cause i've only just changed the wheels and some new shiny ones.

Will check and let you know mate

Getting exctied already
 
At the end of the day, the ring for me, is the same distance to Dover as it is from Dunkerque so in terms of mileage its a 1200 mile round trip which is roughly a months mileage including the occasional thrash round the lanes.

My point is this, you can spend too much time worrying about spares and reliability when you've probably not worried about it over the last year/10k miles in the UK!

If it's going to break down, don't you think there is as much chance on your way to work?

Obviously make sure you car is in a road worthy condition and your tyres are mint, the last thing you want is for your car to let you down on a well earned break/adventure.
When you get there, your car will be filthy, your wheels caked in brake dust and there are precious few car washes there, and fewer still you can communicate with the operators with! Dont worry about it, enjoy the weekend.

My tips would be to get a decent 4 wheel alignment done using some of the recommended geommetry settings Glen evolved years ago and I have recently refined and play around with tyre pressures once you're there. If the track is dry, you will see an increase of around 10psi all round which will dramatically affect the handling. If it's wet, soften up a bit and enjoy the ESP and driving round the outside of noobs in scoobs!
 
Thanks, thats cool

The main reason Im asking is that if I break down on my drive to work (5miles!) I can sit in a pub and chat up 18 year old bar tarts while waitng for the RAC, where as I may be waiting and facing language difficultys in Germany. Plus I hit 40 on my way to work max, takes me 30mins. I hate living in an inbread southern town!

Will be good tho, my mates have been before so they will be taking me round in their cars first and coming out in mine for a few laps to guide me. Plus Im taking my Cannondale to do some riding as well. Will be good. Also German Porn! Ill be in my element
 
Crazy as it may sound, hammer a game with the Nordschleife on it, although the PS2/3 and Xbox (Forza2) versions aren't completely accurate, knowing the track inside out in terms of knowing which way the next corner goes will be priceless experience.

Seriously, track knowledge is king.
 
i wanna go i wanna go i wannna go...... sounds ace mate, hope you have a good one....not forgetting those excellent German local beers after your sessions---they are something else!!!
 
i went there a couple of years ago in my mates lotus elise but at the time i only had my 1.4sri corsa so felt pointless to take that now i have the audi id love to go back im jelous
 
Watch loads of youtubes on it to get familiar with the track, its so long you NEED familiarity just be safe if you intend on driving fast.

Also, as above, drive the games that have it as a track. Theres one for PC which is almost 100% accurate but I cant remember the name!
 
Stewart said:
Crazy as it may sound, hammer a game with the Nordschleife on it, although the PS2/3 and Xbox (Forza2) versions aren't completely accurate, knowing the track inside out in terms of knowing which way the next corner goes will be priceless experience.

Dave_Bayern said:
Also, as above, drive the games that have it as a track. Theres one for PC which is almost 100% accurate but I cant remember the name!

I really struggle with this one, I've got an xbox 360 and I've played all the PC games (even with a wheel and pedals) and none of them prepared me for what the ring was like (cambers / inclines etc.). Yes now I've been for real I know what to expect at some points of any game, but to be honest I think this is really dodgy advise - DON'T BE *****. The first lap I was there I watched a modded EVO 8 (UK Reg) bin it and probably cost himself a world of trouble if he wasn't insured correctly.

Stewart said:
Seriously, track knowledge is king.

Can't agree more, but it's only something that comes with driving there IMO.

ETA - I'd strongly advise taking your first laps as if it was a normal B road in GB with the benefit of no traffic coming the other way, there are just too many bits where you can't see which way the road goes!
 
god_thats_quick said:
I really struggle with this one, I've got an xbox 360 and I've played all the PC games (even with a wheel and pedals) and none of them prepared me for what the ring was like (cambers / inclines etc.). Yes now I've been for real I know what to expect at some points of any game, but to be honest I think this is really dodgy advise - DON'T BE *****. The first lap I was there I watched a modded EVO 8 (UK Reg) bin it and probably cost himself a world of trouble if he wasn't insured correctly.



Can't agree more, but it's only something that comes with driving there IMO.

ETA - I'd strongly advise taking your first laps as if it was a normal B road in GB with the benefit of no traffic coming the other way, there are just too many bits where you can't see which way the road goes!

I agree but the point I was making was not as extreme as you perhaps think, I was in no way advocating learning the track in order to go straight out there and drive as fast as possible, no no no, a recipe for disaster.

However, having prior knowledge and a little confidence about which way the track bends after the next corner etc helps massively in the enjoyment of the trip.

My first time out, I mullered my brakes because I literally didn't know which way the track went after each bend. I was so slow that it really wasn't an enjoyable experience at all. I was booting it down the straights and anchoring on to go round corners at ridiculously over-cautious speeds.

Again, because I had no knowledge of what was coming next, my lines were appalling and I was then having to stay offline for faster cars to pass which made the whole thing a bit of a nightmare.

At least with prior track knowledge he can go round and take the correct lines and start to feel where he can carry more speed. Offline he will never see the turn in markers and start to 'feel' the way the track can 'flow' in certain sections rather than feeling his way round.

I've not put that very well and like you say, NOTHING will prepare him for the road surfaces, the camber changes and the compression rebounds. However I still maintain that track knowledge however that is gained, is king.

Even after many many trips now, i still hate the double apex entry into Brunchen, it feels off camber but I'm sure it probably isn't however it still unnerves me every time.
The game version is totally different and doesn't prepare you for the unnerving off camber feeling but it DID help me get my line right so even at noob speeds I felt like I had at least got my line spot on...
 
Ah, sorry got slightly the wrong end of the stick then, totally agree with everything you just said. When I got stuck in traffic etc. on my first few laps I was constantly looking around for the next bike / whatever that was coming up behind me and was off line pretty much the whole lap. A mate with an M5 nearly set his brakes on fire and my clutch / brakes were smelling rather hot after my first lap so I know what you mean about braking too much.
 
Thats cool thanks lads

The Renualt boys Im going with have been a few times and Im going out with them and them with me at first to get me settled in. Not gonna be going balls out, Im going just as much for the trip to Germany, love the country

Just gonna start working on the car checking everything over the next few weekends
 
Well everything sorted now, last day at work tomorrow then its off to the Fatherland. God I love Germany!

Get in from work tomorrow and after some food and a wash, its straight to bed to try and get some sleep. Got a 2:30am alarm and a 2:45am meet time! Ferry at 6am here, get in Dunkurqe (I cant spell it and I dont care, its French!) at 9am their time then thru Belgium and into Germany.

Im well excited, but also very nervous and a bit hesitant

So this is my last time on the board for a while (maybe forever, who knows!) so hope you lot enjoy the rest of the week and the weekend.

And Tim (1animal1)... stop getting beaten by cars dude! Its so not cool :p

Laters, Ryan
 
ahhh shut ya face......:yahoo:

Actually quite jealous now, would love to do that trip....used to tour Germany years ago.....what a network of roads......

Anyways...... Laters mate, hope ya have a good one....... and remember what i told you about perving!!!!!

'DON'T GET CAUGHT'

Tim