1animal1 said:
Simch, if the car ends up being a total **** up, then you can happily rub my nose in it, till then....
I have obviously paid £1500 less than the original screen price for this car and got extra warranty and service on top....how would this make a salesmans dream?.....do you actually know what your talking about or is it just childish ranting from memories of being buttf**ked on your own car by a well hung salesman - not bein funny but you really have nothing constructive to add other than negative s**t which really doesn't help.
bad Simch :Flush:
Regards
Tim
I think it's you having the "childish rant!" here!! How does "salesmans dream" qualify as a "rant"? Whereas the above.........!!?!?
Ok, I will explain.
Tim, you asked for advice. I told you to walk away.....! And so did some others. Why do you think that was? Are we all trying to buy this from under your nose...? Oh no its been on sale for 90 days!!
Do I know what I am talking about ref buying cars? Well I would say probably more than you do, with respect, hece why you came on here asking for advice!!
I was Head of Internal Audit for the a Group PLC of a major car retail chain a few years ago we had 55 used car sites and 45 new car sites. I know most of the tricks and cons that go on in used and new car sales as well as the aftersales where the official terminology used regarding service customers was to "rape them!"
Did you ever think that maybe someone knows this particular car, (at least one other does!). Have you done an HPI check on the car, or did you just look at one at the dealers.....? Always do you own and make sure its current, they only last 30 days.
I did very nicely on my S3, a year on and no surprises its mint, but i do know how tricky it is buying used cars. I do know that I had to walk from some deals. I also know what a rip off warranties are, do a search on any car forum you will find a lot of info about how useless they are. There are two basic types, aftermarket ones with the likes of Warranty Holdings etc , or ones the large used dealer chains "sell" which is just a cost they apply to the vehicle on their books, and they will warranty the car themselves. After market ones cost the dealer about £270, he "sells" it to you at £400 odd (within the vehicle price), so he makes £130-£200 a throw on them. And yet, he will not want to know you if you have a problem, jsut refer you on to the warranty company......you can guess what happens then!!
The "problems" you recounted on your initial test drive are not good. Simple to fix maybe, but why should you have to fix them.....? What does it tell you about how the car is looked after if buttons are missing and its over a year over its cambelt due date.....salesman will tell you its a FSH......but its missing its cambelt.......hmmm!
I am not saying its a bad car, I am saying you have been sold it, rather than you buying it! A good tip if you are buying form outside the main delaer network, and you have a missing cambelt replacement is to take the car without it knocking off a reaosnable price to have it done, then get it done at an imdependant with no reason to cut corners with it! How will you knwo if the cambelt has been changed as part of this service, have you marked it with a paint pen......? Will the delaer who's margin you have just beaten really go to the trouble of replacing the waterpump with of the metal impeller ones......?Will he really be ultra careful with the brake lines he has to shift to do the job, or will he bend them out the way. leave them unclipped and have them burn through on the turbo like is documented in several unfortunate cases on here.......?
So my "salesman's dream" comment is merely because you are! He presented a poorly prepared vehicle, with obvious concerns over how its been treated in its life, you correctly spotted some missing history, you did everyhting right on what you checked, you asked advice here, because you were not sure (and were right not to be!!) and yet you still bought it!!
Better to walk away from 10 cars you have even the slightest concern about that you may be wrong on, than buy one that turns out to be not all it seems!! Look at the "S3 taken off me what can I do" thread from poor old Ash on here to see what can happen when a car purchase goes bad.
No one will rub your nose in it if its a bad one, but you came asking for advice and you got it, you made your decision and I and everyone else hopes it was an Ok decision. But if it is not, the evidence was there and you let a salesman sell to you! ! ! That's all.
Oh and you got £1500 off did you...? You think the salesman did you a favour then and sold it at a loss!!
It was not worth the asking price, hence it was on sale for 3 months. I can assure you he still took at least £1500 profit on the car. I just hope he does what he has promised you on the service etc.....but anything he spends doing it, is straight off his bottom line!!
Oh, and paint wearing off butons on a 6 year old 80k mile Audi................I suppose he told you they all do that!! ?? My mate just bought an A3 18T with 208k miles on it and all the paint is on those buttons!
By the way, your tirade or swearing and expetives as a new member will endear you to those of us that try to offer help when you ask for it i am sure. It sounds to me that I touched a nerve with my comment (which i stand by due to the reasons I explained) as you are not sure you have done the right thing buying this car......and I think you are right to have reservations I am afraid.
Good Luck with it anyway, I hope it turns out to be as nice a car as you hope it is. If not, dont worry, keep your cool on here and dont be rude to people and you will get an awful lot of help.
...tut tut....another conversation to be had tomoz
