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    S3 PDC Retrofit

    Hello all, I would like to retrofit PDC if at all possible. My car is 2002 so has a full CAN setup.

    Is it possible? I can't find any details on the net or on here.

    Any info greatfully received.

    Cheers,
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    whats pdc ? and can ?
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    Parking distance control and control area network.

    I have seen plenty on Ebay but as with most things on there you are better with the real mccoy. I am sure someone can give you a parts list for a retro fit.

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    Rick - As Steve said it's an acoustic parking system.

    Steve, thanks. I've fired off a mail to Vagparts so I'll see what they come back with.

    I think I've seen you posting in a few of the RNS-E posts? I'm currently waiting on an RNS-E to arrive so I'll be getting that fitted this w/e.

    What do you recommend for trimming the sides of the unit? (I'm using an 8E0 035 192 version).

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    Do you have double DIN already? I take it you have access to VAG-com to do the coding? Send me a PM with your mail address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve1975l
    Do you have double DIN already? I take it you have access to VAG-com to do the coding? Send me a PM with your mail address.
    Yes to both. PM sent.

    Cheers!
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    late S3's only ever had a half-CAN setup, and is a strange hybrid of the two systems.


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    Mark you have Email, it will help you out loads. I am busy doing a PS2 and Andymac at the moment.

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    Thanks Steve, the coding information is invaluable!

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    No problem glad to help.

    Do you plane any add ons to the RNS-E?

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    I'd love Bluetooth and an iPOd interface for my iPod Video - with Video in if possible.

    If not done any research in to these yet though

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    You need a Dietz 1417 from Germany and an Ipod RCA adapter. I am not a fan of Ipod due to software rights.

    Bluetooth is meant to be a good upgrade. I have got a cradle car kit so not in a rush for it. I have got into the routine of putting the phone in the holder everytime I get in and it is handy for charging.

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    Ahh OK, do you know what is the largest size SD card that the RNS-E will take?

    I could almost do away with an iPod - just set up my tunes folder as a briefcase and have Windows sync it every time I put the card in the card reader on the PC. Is it possible to play video from the SD cards?

    If so I may as well sell the iPod!

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    4gb. Max number of files/tracks is 512 so no point getting to bigger card. I use 1gb's. No video though.

    Hence the Dietz 1417, this will give you RCA inputs for a source such as DVD player.

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    Thanks again Steve.

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    i did look into parking sensors maybe a year ago seemed exspensive like 300+ but see what VAG parts say. The majority of the cost was the insert panel in the rear bumper which was 200ish on its own.
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    wanted for 8L S3:
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    Cheers matty, they seem to be pretty busy at the moment, I've still not got a reply from a mail I sent on Monday.

    I've just ordered a Dietz 1417, so if the parking sensors are working out at 300ish it'll be cheaper and easier for me to add a rear facing camera that is activated in reverse, and is fed through the Dietz and displayed on the RNS-E.

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    There is a reverse signal on the RNS-E. I am sure s8Craig will know more.

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    Are you guys talking about OEM parts? If so, where did you find it and costs? I saw some on ebay, but it's not OEM. Tks

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    any news on parts from vag ?
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    2010 Green Kawasaki Ninja ZX6R - Akrapovic baffleless race can, LED cluster & HID's

    wanted for 8L S3:
    Unmarked grey rear bumper panel
    Milltek system

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    Matty - Still waiting! Vagparts have just answered an email from 2 weeks ago...they must have a huge workload.

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    "PDC retrofit kit - as far as I know there isn’t one for the 8L S3 Mark, the only A3 / S3 kit Audi do is for the 8P new shape A3, that’s the first kit they have done. Sorry Mark."

    I've not followed this up asking for individual parts as I'm going to use a camera now, they may well be available, if not there is an S3 PDC bumper on German ebay at the moment.

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    The parking control unit goes behind the right rear light and the buzzer behind the left rear light. I bet there are cross marks on the back of the trim to drill the holes for the sensors. You would need to order these 3 parts and work out the wiring.

    Where do you plan to mount the camera?

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    [QUOTE=mwstewart][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#00429a][COLOR=#00429A][FONT=Arial]"PDC retrofit kit - as far as I know there isnt one for the 8L S3 Mark, the only A3 / S3 kit Audi do is for the 8P new shape A3, thats the first kit they have done. Sorry Mark."

    Who said that ?
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    wanted for 8L S3:
    Unmarked grey rear bumper panel
    Milltek system

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    VAG parts I assume.

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    Yes, Martyn at VAGParts. He's not saying the parts aren't available as such, only a complete retrofit kit.

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    I have my car in bits at the moment and I can find any spare plugs in the rear left light area for the buzzer. Anyone with PDC know where the buzzer is exactly?

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    i m sure someone could whip out a wiring diagram or similar.
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    wanted for 8L S3:
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    Milltek system

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    No one has done so as of yet.

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    Well i downloaded a PDF from a link someone provided which shows the construction / put together of the interior. I would imagine there is also an exterior PDF to. I just dont know where it came from. Try doing a search.
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    wanted for 8L S3:
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    Milltek system

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    My car has (Aps) Audibale Parking sensors fitted as an option form the Factory and the Beep comes from the speaker thing above the ashtray as far as i can tell uses the same beep as when you put the car in Reverse(this may not happen on a non APS equipped car)

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    no the beep doesnt happen on a non APS car. I m not gonna donwload them to look but what i have is a PDF which is an official Audi document.
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    wanted for 8L S3:
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    Milltek system

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    Hello, this is extracted from a post I published on Audisport-iberica, I'm waiting for Kufatec wires to make the install, they sell them cheaper than the dealer: all spare wires and connectors.

    Hello,

    I publish here information of my last modification that was delayed months due to a delay of parts at dealer. The asked me for each wire with two terminals 3euros, so i finally bought them at kufatec.

    Parts:

    To hold the electronic unit there are a lot of possibilities, I bought the foam rubber holder that use the A4 B5 instead of buying the metal holder that uses the A3.

    PDC Unit 4B0 919 283 (Thank you BEiiTCH).



    Foam rubber holder 8D0 919 285



    Parktronic buzzer 4B0 919 279(replaced by 8E0 919 279)
    Buzzer holder 8L3 035 243
    Screw N 907 750 01
    Nut N 908 214 01
    Nut 443 819 055 B



    Sensors S3 4B0 919 275 A (A3 ones can be used too: 4B0 919 275).



    s3 black strip with holes 8L9 807 341 B 7DL



    A3 spoiler with holes 8L0 807 521 H 3FZ



    Connections in case someone wants to buy all parts at dealer:

    4A0 972 883 Conector 12 polos sensores
    000 979 018 Pines conector 12 polos
    1J0 973 703 Conector 3 polos sensor
    000 979 131 Pines conector 3 polos
    8E0 972 416 Conector 16 polos centralita
    000 979 009 Pines conector 16 polo
    4B0 972 623 Conector Zumbador
    ----------------------------
    Conector de 16 polos
    Pin 1 - Fusible 5
    Pin 2 - Zumbador Pin negativo
    Pin 3 -
    Pin 5 - Toma corriente remolque
    Pin 6 - Conexin Luz marcha atrs
    Pin 8 - Masa
    Pin 9 - Fusible 5
    Pin 10 - Positivo Zumbador
    Pin 11 - Seal de velocidad
    Pin 12 - Cable diagnstico K
    Pin 16 - Masa
    ----------------------------
    Conector de 12 polos
    Pin 1 - pin 3 todos los sensores
    Pin 2 - pin 2 trasero centro derecho
    Pin 3 - pin 2 trasero centro izquierdo
    Pin 4 - pin 2 trasero derecho
    Pin 5 - pin 2 trasero izquierdo
    Pin 6 - pin 1 todos los sensores
    ----------------------------

    Installation still pending until i receive the wires from kufatec.

    Source: http://www.audisport-iberica.com/for...owtopic=114321

    Audi A3 S3

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by CaTFiSH


    PDC Unit 4B0 919 283 (Thank you BEiiTCH).
    You're welcome. It's a matter of time you could get that cable from kufatec, to enjoy PDC.
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    Nice one guys

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    Where abouts is the 16 pin connector to connect to the car loom?

 

 

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