james0808
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Im not a fan of these either.nky_84 said:On a different note, I would love a Z3 M coupe mmmmmmmmmm, they are tasty
Im not a fan of these either.nky_84 said:On a different note, I would love a Z3 M coupe mmmmmmmmmm, they are tasty
Tooks said:Bit more informed than a forum I reckon... BMW's specs say 155mph. The Autos are 2mph slower. (click on the tech spec tab)
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/car_details/0,,1260_159980106__,00.html?currentCh=WBABD52090PL68334
Tooks said:It's irrelevant anyway, as the OP was talking about the diesel...
Tooks said:My cards on the table, my brother in law sells these things for a living.
The 155mph IS the restricted speed, electronically limited, there is not another limiter at 130mph or so, not that either of those speeds are relevant in the UK of course!
If you look at the 330d, it shows a 141mph max speed, the 320 a lower one etc.
BMW don't restrict their cars at any speed except 155, under the gentlemans agreement with other manufacturers. If an owner of a car is reporting a slower top speed, there must be something wrong with it, or it's worn, or air temps are a factor etc etc.
EDIT: The M5 only appears to be limited to 155mph in theory! The road tests I have read show it going a lot quicker than that before a limiter chimes in...
nky_84 said:You could be right, its mighty close. S3 should have it if all 3 remapped?
Tooks said:EDIT: The M5 only appears to be limited to 155mph in theory! The road tests I have read show it going a lot quicker than that before a limiter chimes in...
james0808 said:They also say the M5 has a top speed of 155 and i think we all know it is capable of more.
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspecifications_technical_specs/0,,1156_148869295__bs-TQ%3D%3D%40bb-TTVfTEk%3D%40bm-TkI5Mg%3D%3D%40sit-bmwuk,00.html
mwstewart said:I concur, I have the E46 M3 variant and it will go in to mid 160's.
Dubplate said:fair play so what your saying is the 330ci has the same restricted top end as an M3 so its capable of a 170 + mph ? which doesnt seem right to me...i cant argue the fact as im not that technically minded im only going on reviews and forums of such that frequented when i was considering buying one before the S3 and this discussion came up quite alot.....:thumbsup:
the one took out for a test drive certainly frightened me....Dubplate said:you lucky do you wanna swap for my S3..... lol....
Tooks said:It could be that an unrestricted 330i, given enough space (and I think it would need quite a bit of that!) could run on to 157mph or something, but BMW would still restrict it to 155mph, and show that as it's top speed. Obviously, the M3 is capable of a far higher speed, but 155mph is what it is theoretically restricted to. :icon_thumright:
Tooks said:I was only using that as an example, I have no idea what its unrestricted top speed would be!
Anyway, that's me done!!
Dubplate said:140km (86.99mph) still quite a way off 130mph there so yes i bet it was still going some.... :icon_thumright:
golf said:This is an Audi forum, so you're obviously going to get biased answers.
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ahhhh i see..i couldnt reach 14mph on the private roads near me as they have the worst speed bumps known to man.....jojo said:I think I need to re-phrase my post, I hit 140MPH!(on a private road!!)
jojo said:in a standard 330ci Coupe Auto, and it was still going... slowed down after, as it wasn't my car lol.
golf said:This is an Audi forum, so you're obviously going to get biased answers.
In my opinion BMW make the best driving, and the best engineered cars out of the three Germans.
I think a 3.2 A3 will do about 157mph or there abouts but thats limited to 155.Must make them sound better when marketing them when they say its limited to 155 when thats about all it will do anyway.Dubplate said:seems a bit strange why they would restrict by 2 mph.... but hey if thats true who am i to argue :thumbsup:
Dubplate said:BMW have more refined engines but build quality is no where as good as Audi and as for the re-sale value i dont think anyone can argue that Audi are far superior....
golf said:This is an Audi forum, so you're obviously going to get biased answers.
silver75 said:almost everyone has said get the BM.
Dubplate said:BMW have more refined engines but build quality is no where as good as Audi and as for the re-sale value i dont think anyone can argue that Audi are far superior....
golf said:I was talking in general terms.
True, Audi does have better build quality but I was saying that Audi's engines on the whole, are inferior to BMW's. A 1.8 will never be as smooth or as refined as a 3.0 flat 6. On average BMW's actually tend to hold value better than Audi's.
I would say the M3 is more S4 not RS4.Dubplate said:engines agreed :icon_thumright: but as for re-sale values i disagree.... as said by jojo it maybe levels out on base models but not the sport range ie: M3 vs RS4, TT vs Z4, M5 vs RS6 etc.....
scib4 said:I have a pic of my speedo on my standard 330d 184bhp 5 speed doing about 143mph last year in Germany. So i would be very surprised if a 3 litre petrol would not do more.
james0808 said:I would say the M3 is more S4 not RS4.
Dubplate said:you lucky do you wanna swap for my S3..... lol....
mwstewart said:I am very impressed with the car, the only real downside is when you have to empty your wallet for an inspection II service and set of tyres. Horrendous That's the price you pay for performance though I guess!
mwstewart said:Very refreshing to see some unbiased opinions in this thread, especially as we're discussing a BMW in an Audi forum!
Dubplate said:and ive had my lardy *** Mk3 8v Golf GTi showing 135mph... so is this true aswell.... ?
scib4 said:So by chance the book top speed of my 330d is 141mph. But you think a 330i "BMW tops out at around 130mph"
Dubplate said:debatable really as i'd say the 330 Msport would be equal to the S4.....
Dubplate said:No i didnt personally say that i was merely quoting the information i found on the subject for when i was going to purchase one....also book speeds are inacurate and can differentiate hugely. Ive already stated that my technical knowledge is minimal so im not going to argue the fact... I answered your statement because you cant go by the speedometer as this wont give you a true recording... just by comparing my sat nav indicated speed with my speedometer on the S3 you can see a noticeble difference....my 10 yr old Mk3 8v Golf GTi has shown a speed of 135mph but anyone can tell you this wouldnt be correct a more accurate guess be more like 120-125mph... :icon_thumright:
scib4 said:Fair enough mate. What would you reckon 143mph would be then on a 2002 car? Bit more advanced than the a Mk3 Golf i would think.
scib4 said:Fair enough mate. What would you reckon 143mph would be then on a 2002 car? Bit more advanced than the a Mk3 Golf i would think.
Dubplate said:yes i would think it would be.... normally you'd apply a 10% margin to the given speed as all manufactures speedometers vary....
mwstewart said:Both my E46's are accurate to within 2mph of the Road Angel, up to silly speeds. This surprised me as I always like to think the speedo 'error' gives you a nice comfort zone through speed cameras - not so!
Dubplate said:my pogodrive is within 2mph @ 40mph not had much chance to try out it out at high speed yet....
Hotscar said:Hello...who cares, I'm sure this thread is about whether someone should sell their S3 and get a BMW.
Anyway, my S3 is faster than anyone else's on here...