is my s3 about to die????

[Audiman99]

I hope not but just recently ive started to have lots of problem which ive just ignored as they were minor like the esp light staying on.

Anyway now when I drive at anything higher than 3k revs the car feels like its hitting super string wind directly in front, it jumps around and goes no where, there’s no power and it will struggle to get to 60mph. It feels like my 1.2 clio but kangarooing while being revved. Every gear above 3k it does this. It has done this a few times in the past but as soon as I restarted it was fine. It happens everytime now.

Also my rear brakes are sticking as I’ve just found my rear offside brake pads to be non existent, so I’m guessing they have been stuck on for a while and now the noise is unbelievable (grinding noise), its so loud constantly and when braking its even worse. The disks look fine tho, so is it a case of replacing the pads (both obviously) and will they become non stuck to the disks once ive replaced the pads.

Any help 2moro would be so much appreciated, thanks guys

Allan

 

[markyp2002]

ok well as far as the slow after 3k revs is concerned i would say its your MAF sensor, im starting to get the same problem every now and then. GSF Car parts sell the sensor for £37+VAT which is cheaper than the 90+ at audi.

try that first, when i disconnect my MAF sensor the ESP light comes on.

hope this helps

 

[Audiman99]

I did buy a supposedly buy a new maf sensor on eBay for about 40 quid, but one of the grills was missing, so I was a bit suspect off it being brand new. I went to undo the plug but it was too dark and I couldn’t get it off, so I drove home and forgot about it. Will try 2moro. Thanks.

Anything else could make it jump excessively while accelerating?

Forgot to say I have vagcom so will do a scan and post here before I go to a garage and get knocked.

Allan

 

[amoani]

I would imagine the problem with the brakes is either down to the handbrake staying on or the caliper pistons are jammed. So just changing the pads may temporarily remove the issue but it will not be long before it comes back. A new caliper would be needed if it is the pistons. I would also imagine that if you have been driving around with the pads stuck on, your brake disc would be warped aswell, so that would need replacing.

Aaron

 

[S3Steve]

I did buy a supposedly buy a new maf sensor on eBay for about 40 quid, but one of the grills was missing, so I was a bit suspect off it being brand new. I went to undo the plug but it was too dark and I couldn’t get it off, so I drove home and forgot about it. Will try 2moro. Thanks.

Anything else could make it jump excessively while accelerating?

Forgot to say I have vagcom so will do a scan and post here before I go to a garage and get knocked.

Allan

The accelerating problem sounds like the same symptoms i got when my coilpacks went, which is a common problem on these cars, vagcom should tell you if this is the culprit of your problem.

 

[ash_s3]

sounds like when my coolant sensor went just after i bought the car! i expected the worse but it only cost me about £20, audi dealer said it was the AFM but i took it to my mate at VW and he hooked it up to the computer and told me exactly what was wrong!

my advice would be to get it put on the diagnostic machine at a local audi / vw dealer before you go replacing bits just because someone off here has told you to

 

[Audiman99]

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-US
aj

Chassis Type: 8P - Audi A3/S3
Scan: 01,02,03,08,09,15,16,17,19,25,37,42,44,46,47,52,55,56,57,69,75,76,77,7D

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Controller: 8N0 906 018 J
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT 0004
Coding: 10710
Shop #: WSC 78385
WAUZZZ8LZ1A079589 AUZ7Z0Y1733403
5 Faults Found:
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
P1570 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17705 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
P1297 - 35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
16684 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
P0300 - 35-00 - Please Register/Activate
16685 - Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected
P0301 - 35-00 - -
16486 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
P0102 - 35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Controller: 8N0 907 379 E
Component: ESP 20 CAN V005
Coding: 18448
Shop #: WSC 06435
2 Faults Found:
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
57-10 - Electric Circuit Failure - Intermittent
01423 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
27-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

 

[Audiman99]

looks bad is it gonna be expensive?

i forgot to say in my first post that when the car was jumping about when accelerating that an error was flashing on the dash it looked like a pump of some sort, its near the 40mph part of the dash and only flashed up when the jumping occured. Also the abs light kept flashing 2day and i had the 3 beeps while driving with the big warning sign flashing as well.

Dam car!

 

[Sandip]

Had a similar problem happen on mine,error flashing on my dash when i reached around 2700- 3000rpm in any gear,hesitation when i put my foot on the gas, i think its one on your coil packs that's died, ur a.b.s light is probably flashing because of yours rears pads / disc. coil pack ain't that expensive and its easy to put a new one on, you just have to find out which one has failed

 

[ash_s3]

was it an EPC light? Electronic Pedal Control??

 

[Sandip]

looking at your faults its coil number 1 thats gone, because cylinder 1 is misfiring

 

[Sandip]

i think thats something else with the epc light, if you can take your car to a good garage you know, when they lift an active coil pack off your spark plug it'l start making a clicking noise (because its working) if your lift coil number 1 it might not click the same or it might not click at all

 

[Audiman99]

thanks guys, ive ordered some new rear disks and pads from eurocarparts, i used them alot for my 172. i can fit them myself, but gonna book it in when i have some time and get the rest of the problems sorted.

Thanks for all the help

Allan

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Sticking rear brakes are fairly common. The backing plate on the pads corrodes and the pads cannot slide easily. You'll normally feel a long brake pedal when this happens. If the pads aren't worn, you can clean them up with a wire brush, and grease them up.

Make sure you've got a caliper wind-back tool for changing the rear pads. I've had to do it with a pair of molegrips before, very carefully!

 

[Booth_S4]

yeha i stumbled across this prob when i came to change my rear discs a few weeks ago! Had to go and borrow a wind-back tool from a local garage!

I too ordered my rear discs from eurocarparts, when they arrived to my suprise they were mintex ones! really shockd me as they only cost £80 for discs and pads! was well chuffed!

hope everything goes ok for you and it just turns out to be a coilpack!

 

[markyp2002]

coilpacks work out at about £24 a pop from GSF carparts so its all good

 

[Secret Squirrel]

coilpacks work out at about £24 a pop from GSF carparts so its all good

Or <£20 from the dealer.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Have you tried swapping the coilpack around, to see if the fault moves?

 

[Audiman99]

sorry to sound dumb but where abouts are the coilpacks, does anyone have any pics? If this is a diy job i would very much like to do it myself to save as much money as possible, just had my wallet nicked 2day so not really in the position to be spending lots of money.

Allan

 

[Stewart]

Umm, no-one seems to have addressed his other problem :-

2 Faults Found:
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
57-10 - Electric Circuit Failure - Intermittent

Which is this little baby :-

I think from memory it was £74 roughly (Inc VAT). Fortunately this is the cheaper (smaller in the pic) of the two.

It's located under the steering column and is quite straightforward to fit. Takes about an hour tops.
Would be handy if you had a flexy head 3/8 ratchet with approx 6" wobbly extension and a shallow 13mm socket.

 

[Audiman99]

ok bout to fit my disks and pads and bought a new coil from audi for 29 quid, once all fitted ill test drive and re scan the ecu and post back, thanks for the help

Allan

update - ive only got 2 coils is this right? i thought i had 4, anyway ive changed 1 and will testdrive in a bit, but the wheels are a pain in the ***!!! The wheel nuts were so rusted on they made a snapping noise when i undone them, then the ****** wheel wouldnt come off! its too dark to continue doing them i cant get the wheel off its jammed on or rusted on, wont budge so im just gonna get a garage to do it as well as look at the other faults i got.

oh well, i tried

 

[Audiman99]

looks like fitting the coil made it worse, i put the new one in the first one on the left there is only 2. rescanned..............

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-S


Chassis Type: 8L - Audi A3/S3
Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,22,35,37,45,54,55,56

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Controller: 8N0 906 018 J
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT 0004
Coding: 10710
Shop #: WSC 78385
WAUZZZ8LZ1A079589 AUZ7Z0Y1733403
4 Faults Found:
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 35-00 - -
16685 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
P0301 - 35-00 - Please Register/Activate
16486 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
P0102 - 35-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller
P1649 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Controller: 8N0 907 379 E
Component: ESP 20 CAN V005
Coding: 18448
Shop #: WSC 06435
2 Faults Found:
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
01423 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
27-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent

 

[Stewart]

No, you have 4 coilpacks m8, they are the almost square black box sitting on top of the spark plug holes. The right hand 2 are obscured by pipework and wiring harness. The coilpack consists of the black box with integral post that then locates on to the top of the spark plug.

Examine the wiring going to each coil pack as these crack and break over time and make sure the earths are clean and making a good connection.

While you have the coil packs off, make sure all the spark plugs are in good condition and nipped up nicely. I.E Not loose. A spark plug that isnt tightened up properly will work itself loose and cause misfires. There is a specific torque setting if in doubt. From memory (a long long time ago) I 'think' its around 25nm but am probably way off lol.

 

[Aky]

Sorry for being a bit ignorant, I'm praying that I have no faults on my S3!! What is the issue with the coilpacks? Is it that they just crack and short or does the engine have a tendancy to burn them out. They seem a little expensive for what they are!!

 

[claudefrog]

have you replaced the MAF recently?

esp light on my old car 1.8t ibiza came on when maf sensor had died, and it also goes with your symptons, loss of power, missing etc

 

[Audiman99]

im booking it in on friday, had enough, this cars costing me so much ****** money, im fed up id rather have my old clio sport than the s3!

 

[mattyboy199]

im booking it in on friday, had enough, this cars costing me so much ****** money, im fed up id rather have my old clio sport than the s3!

I know the feeling mate, temp sensor, anti roll bar, steering column (all within a year of ownership) & still something doesnt feel right. Not to mention the notchy gear box. Where does it end. On top of servicing is it really worth it ?

 

[jeremygs]

im booking it in on friday, had enough, this cars costing me so much ****** money, im fed up id rather have my old clio sport than the s3!

I had exactly the symptoms you described - it turned out to be the lateral speed sensor causing the esp light to come on and the coolant sensor causing the problems at 3k revs.

 

[Stewart]

I had exactly the symptoms you described - it turned out to be the lateral speed sensor causing the esp light to come on and the coolant sensor causing the problems at 3k revs.

Please read the thread carefully lol, we've already discussed and offered the solution for the ESP light coming on especially as the VAG-COM listing points to this (G200 sensor fault).

 

[cjhill]

regarding your feelings of 'is it worth it - the car is costing so much money'

For some reason S3's seem to do this...


Great fun for most of the time but when things go wrong, its usually 3 at the same time and end up costing loads.

Had exactly the same sort of problems 6 months ago - stick with it guys, it will be worth it when you get through it and the car is working and shiny again.

chris

 

[Audiman99]

booked in monday now, probably gonna cost an arm and a leg, but i do enjoy driving the audi, just wanna get the problems sorted and out of the way.

ill keep ya posted

 

[jeremygs]

Please read the thread carefully lol, we've already discussed and offered the solution for the ESP light coming on especially as the VAG-COM listing points to this (G200 sensor fault).

Thread was read carefully. I was just offering the benefit of my recent experience to back up what had already been posted.

 

[triggermyson]

Umm, no-one seems to have addressed his other problem :-

2 Faults Found:
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
57-10 - Electric Circuit Failure - Intermittent

Which is this little baby :-

I think from memory it was £74 roughly (Inc VAT). Fortunately this is the cheaper (smaller in the pic) of the two.

It's located under the steering column and is quite straightforward to fit. Takes about an hour tops.
Would be handy if you had a flexy head 3/8 ratchet with approx 6" wobbly extension and a shallow 13mm socket.

We spent quite a while the other day looking for the 'longitudinal acceleration sensor' which turned out to be behind the glovebox.

That ones in the steeriing column somewhere is it?

Is that a ESP only thing? Only ask because it looks a lot like the longitudinal one but we didn't see anything like that in the steering column.

 

[Audiman99]

Hi, just to update everyone took it to the Audi specialist on Monday and it only took them half the day to sort all the problems, they fitted my new rear disks and pads, sorted the noise from the sticking calipers and the handbrake has been tightened now.

The misfire wasn&#8217;t a coil at all it turned out to be a dead sparkplug????? How come the vag-com reported it was a coil pack failure???? Weird huh!

Also all the lights on my dash the ESP, ABS and the pump looking type icon have all gone, they said no sensors needed replacing apart from one that cost 600 quid, so he said leave it as it doesn&#8217;t affect driving in anyway. He said a few sensors just needed cleaning and some had come loose, so far no lights have popped up not even the esp which always came on.

Oh and they did an oil change as well, as I&#8217;m sure it was due.

All in all I&#8217;m a very happy man, I forgot what it was like to drive without having problems, feels lovely and much smoother through the gears and at idle as well. Cost 170 quid, which isn&#8217;t too bad, will defiantly be using them again considering they are 10 mins from my home.

Again thanks for all the help guys,

Allan

 

[A3_Turbo]

Glad you got it sorted mate it seemed like you awlays had probs with your S3.

A least its sorted now Enjoy!

Jason..