Superchip

[garethhill]

I have noticed on the Superchip website that the 225 S3 after the remap etc gains 54bhp! Which takes it to 279bhp!

Has anyone actually fitted one and found that gain or are they dreaming lol.

Thanks

 

[Tallpaul]

No idea what sort of remap superchips do, not really commonly used for the 1.8T.

You wont get 279bhp from a remap alone, no matter who does it. 265bhp is perfectly attainable.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

I don't know about their work on the S3 chip. But I wouldn'r recommend them, purely from some of their poor efforts on some older models.
Unless they've changed, I don't think they really know what they are doing tbh.

 

[Dave_Bayern]

I have a superchips map on my A3 and indeed, it is rubbish.

 

[garethhill]

Why whats wrong with the superchip

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Any chip tuner that doesn't know how to remap boost, and has to resort to mechanical methods to increase it, therefore over-riding any safety control the ecu has, is bad in my book.

 

[tommo-turbo]

A mechanic warned me against Superchips on my old n/a car as they increse the power by over-fueling the engine. As Secret Squirrel said above, anyone who UNSAFELY increases power is bad in my book too!

Rich

 

[DPM]

There's no way you'll get 54 bhp from a remap. With a Suoerchip all the power comes in at one go and then just stops, not really the best way of having it. Also, anyone who sell there chips or remaps on Ebay is getting a bit deperate if you ask me... just my 2 pence though!

 

[garethhill]

Someone must have one fitted on this site !

Would superchips be willing to sell with a warranty ?

 

[rickquattro]

I have a Superchip fitted and its been fine for the last 80k miles. Admittedly its to a diesel car but I cant find anything to complain about. Everything on the car works just fine, no trail of smoke, good power increase to 180 bhp... overboost protection works fine....

Superchips must be doing something good, they are an official partner for the VW racing diesel team and their Bluefin system got a good review in Audi Driver mag....

Thats my 2p worth..

 

[Tallpaul]

Can i ask why you want to use Superchips?

The one person on here that has them says they're sh*t.

If you read their website they offer warranty.

Oh and the 54bhp increase is b*ll*cks too, that's not a peak increase (like every other company in the world quotes), so the remap will actually get you a claimed 265bhp same as every other tuner claims. Plus they still want over £500 so it's not like they're cheaper than anyone else. Use a recognised VAG tuner that comes recommended.

EDIT: Voting now stands at one for and one against

 

[MikeA3]

I had my TDI mapped at superchips HQ in bucks about six weeks ago and it's been great, they tailoired the generic map and altered quite a few settings to get the map i wanted.

might be worth bearing in mind that they have "dealerships" around the country and perhaps people who have had bad experiences have been to bad dealers? - a bit like some audi stealers i suppose - unfortunately theres always a bad one somewhere.

 

[garethhill]

I have a Superchip fitted and its been fine for the last 80k miles. Admittedly its to a diesel car but I cant find anything to complain about. Everything on the car works just fine, no trail of smoke, good power increase to 180 bhp... overboost protection works fine....

Superchips must be doing something good, they are an official partner for the VW racing diesel team and their Bluefin system got a good review in Audi Driver mag....

Thats my 2p worth..

Yes thats what i thought and one reason why i would want to use them over any other company.

And also due to there 279bhp upgrade !

 

[garethhill]

Voting now stands at two for and one against

 

[Tallpaul]

And also due to there 279bhp upgrade !

It's still not a 279bhp upgrade. It's a 264bhp upgrade:

http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/s3-225.pdf

 

[rickquattro]

Someone here has bopped a drollock...

original Max 226 bhp.
increase 54 bhp
New should be 280 bhp.

Superchips state 264 bhp, none of this is 279 bhp...

Confused I is....

 

[Tallpaul]

Someone here has bopped a drollock...

original Max 226 bhp.
increase 54 bhp
New should be 280 bhp.

Superchips state 264 bhp, none of this is 279 bhp...

Confused I is....

lol, no mate. what they are saying is a 54bhp increase @ 4473rpm. Peak power isn't being made 'til 5642rpm (264bhp). So yes, technically there is a 54bhp increase but it's to the mid-range and not peak power output.

It's not significantly differant from any other tuners power curve, just everyone else qoutes peak power increases as that is the number that impresses your mates in the pub.

 

[The Slug]

Im very happy with mine! Highly recommend Superchips, they know exactly what they're doing (at HQ anyways). I'd really like to know exactly why ppl say thy're rubbish? what rubbish ppl, map? Please clarify whats soo bad on here so ppl can make they're own judgements about what yr problems are! Anyone can slag a company off at the end of the day, but it sure as hell doesnt help anyones decisions!

 

[Tallpaul]

Still the overwhelming balance of opinion i've heard of Superchips isn't favourable, but that relates also to other forums and to some extent may be related to their older 'chipping' rather than serial port mapping.

My point simply is that when there are a number of widely respected VAG Tuners out there offering the same product for the same money then i'd advise anyone to go with one of those.

 

[The Slug]

AmD - Heard bad, Jabba - Heard bad...goes on..unless ppl can actually state what problems they have i dont think its very fair do u??

 

[rickquattro]

I have a superchips map on my A3 and indeed, it is rubbish.

Whats the problem here Dave? Did you complain/take it back ?

And as for serial port re-maps, mine was done like this way back in 2003...

 

[Tallpaul]

AmD - Heard bad, Jabba - Heard bad...goes on..unless ppl can actually state what problems they have i dont think its very fair do u??

Do i think it's fair?

I don't care if i upset Superchips or one of its customers, just offering my 2p. I've not even slagged them off, simply recommended anyone except them. I can recall dozens of positive testemonials for REVO, APR, Custom Code and even Jabba. Chances are that Superchips are probably selling Dimsport maps or a variation of another companies code so it's probably exactly the same as any other map you'll get. I'd simply rather take my car to a company that is experienced in tuning the 1.8T and is run by enthusiasts of the marque.

You make it sound like a very good friend of yours has been insulted, lol.

If the original poster has an ounce of common sense he'll take on board everything that has been posted and make his own decision. If he goes for Superchips and everything is fine then i'll be happy for him. His car, his money, his decision. Don't get upset because others don't like the company you have chosen to spend money with. It's not personnal.

 

[The Slug]

Do i think it's fair?

I don't care if i upset Superchips or one of its customers, just offering my 2p. I've not even slagged them off, simply recommended anyone except them. I can recall dozens of positive testemonials for REVO, APR, Custom Code and even Jabba. Chances are that Superchips are probably selling Dimsport maps or a variation of another companies code so it's probably exactly the same as any other map you'll get. I'd simply rather take my car to a company that is experienced in tuning the 1.8T and is run by enthusiasts of the marque.

You make it sound like a very good friend of yours has been insulted, lol.

If the original poster has an ounce of common sense he'll take on board everything that has been posted and make his own decision. If he goes for Superchips and everything is fine then i'll be happy for him. His car, his money, his decision. Don't get upset because others don't like the company you have chosen to spend money with. It's not personnal.

Superchips aside...If u said that Bilstein where rubbish and would never rekomend them, id wanna know why, rather than just sayin they're crap. lol I havnt taken it personal, just i'd personally rather know what the probelsm are and why, is it so hard to back yourself up when slating a any product???? My 2ps worth 2, ha! PS i dont take anything personally thanks, iv coped with worse things in the last few weeks ta!

 

[john2garden]

Ive got a Superchip on mine and not had any problems whatsoever.

 

[rickquattro]

4:1... and the reason for wanting to know why a remap or anything else is good or bad is spot on... Just choosing because someone has an opinion without a reason is not really an informed choice, is it ? Either way..

Audi as a brand seem to constantly get a panning on this site but people still buy them. Work that one out....

As always, quick to complain publically, slower to praise as we expect stuff to work as a matter of course and make no comment when (unsuprisingly), it does.

Another 2p....

 

[john2garden]

I have a superchips map on my A3 and indeed, it is rubbish.

I'd like to know why you think its rubbish too Dave.

 

[Tallpaul]

another thread descends in to squabling then...

Just to clarify, i haven't slagged off Superchips, i'd be interested if you could point out where i have?. I've said i wouldn't use or recommend them. I'd recommend several other companies that I and people i know have had positive experiences with. You want that in a list of ranking order?

1) REVO
2) APR
3) Jabba

Beyond that it's much of a muchness as far as i'm concerned.

Oh, and i have said why i wouldn't recommend Superchips... Simply that their background is not with the VAG 1.8T. I believe that it isn't their own code they are selling but in all likelyhood one developed by someone else, i would rather pay a company that has, and will continue to, develop products for the marque in question. Preferably i would also wish to have that code installed by someone that has a passion for that vehicle and who is running a private business dedicated to the marque.

Is that a sufficient explanation for you? Perhaps you should enlighten the original poster as to why you chose Superchips, just to maintain a full and balanced thread full of repitition.

 

[Tallpaul]

4:1... and the reason for wanting to know why a remap or anything else is good or bad is spot on... Just choosing because someone has an opinion without a reason is not really an informed choice, is it ? Either way..

Ho Hum, the 1:1 thing was just a joke kids.

I have never said that the Superchips map is good or bad. In fact i originally pointed out simply that it wan't a popular choice for the 1.8T, 4:1 on this thread or not.

I also asked why the poster was considering them in the first place, to which no reply was forthcoming. They may be a great reason for him wanting it, maybe it's free! In which case, go for it! (i doubt that, but i guess i have to clarify everything in case somebody takes it too seriously).

Why on earth i'm being rounded on, i have no idea. After all if you had heard literally dozens (and i mean probably more than 100 over various VAG forums) of positive comments for one remap and somebody asks questions about another remap which offers the same gains, and costs the same; what is the harm or suggesting that they go for that one instead???

Crazy crazy place sometimes.

 

[john2garden]

I don't think anyone is rounding you Paul. Like you said the best way to give your opinion is if you can back it up with a reason. People saying 'its *****' is not going to help the original poster who is here for advice.

I agree with you, where you should go for a company who has done a lot of VAG engines not just some company that offers significant gains for say £50.

You would be stupid to choose a chipping company that has no warranty and also no reputation. It astounds me the amount af people that buy these £20 tuning boxes off Ebay and soon as they are fitted wonder why it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

As for Superchips I had mine fitted last May, mines a TDI 130, Im not too sure about what it pushes out now because ABP In Crewe do not have rollers. All I know is that it has made the car a lot more fun to drive and not affected fuel consumption hardly at all from what I can notice. Plus I have given a lot of sportier cars the scare of their lives.

I would like to get it RR'd and see how much power it throws out now. Not only for my own piece of mind but more for bragging to my mates!!

Ive got a mate who had a Oettinger remap on his A4 and he had no problems with that but more problems with the company who did it.

The chip can be amazing and do wonders for the car but if you choose a crap fitter then that would be suicidal.

John

 

[Timbo]

My 2 penneth:

1) All generic remaps should make a similar amount of power. I don't believe any will make 280bhp on an S3. It wouldn't surprise me if they don't really make 260bhp. And besides, I doubt you'd notice 5-10bhp either way for normal road use.
2) You can't measure engine BHP on a rolling road, only horsepower at the wheels, so the quoted "corrected" figures can't be used to compare remaps.
3) Superchips is an established company which isn't likely to go bust tomorrow, so if anything does go wrong you should have some comeback at least.

I have no personal experience of Superchips so I would also be interested to hear why Dave thinks his remap is rubbish.

FWIW I would have gone for Revo, as there's a dealer near me, but they couldn't remap AGU engines when I wanted a remap so I went to AmD. I'm very happy with the results.

 

[ChriS3]

I'm with Paul on this one, for the exact same reasons. I wouldn't say superchips are bad, just not popular or proven with VAG cars and the 1.8T. However, I'm not saying they're good since they've been around longer than most and yet they're still not popular or proven with VAG cars or the 1.8T. Superchips do mapping for the masses. AMD, Jabba, Revo, Star Performance, etc. do mapping for enthusiasts. I would much rather my car be tweaked by someone that knows what they're doing and the specific neuances of the marque.

AmD - Heard bad, Jabba - Heard bad...goes on..unless ppl can actually state what problems they have i dont think its very fair do u??

I've never actually heard anything bad about AMD's or Jabba's mapping, just a few groans about their customer service.

 

[ChriS3]

And also due to there 279bhp upgrade !

If it's just a remap then in all honesty you'll get 255-260bhp. You can get more if you're really aggressive with the boost, but Superchips aren't. My money would be going on a Revo SPS3, APR's switchable system, or a GIAC switchable system - if I were to do it all again (and if Star Performance wasn't so close and so good )

 

[garethhill]

Someone here has bopped a drollock...

original Max 226 bhp.
increase 54 bhp
New should be 280 bhp.

Superchips state 264 bhp, none of this is 279 bhp...

Confused I is....

I looked on the site the other day it had the below :-

225 standard
54bhp increase
total 279

Have they changed it ?

 

[MikeA3]

I would much rather my car be tweaked by someone that knows what they're doing and the specific neuances of the marque.

IMO thats a bit harsh chris - If you've never used superchips how do you know there no good with the 1.8t engine?

There the tuners for the volkswagen racing cup in which most VAG cars compete ranging from tdi beetles through to VR6 golfs and the new Mk V GTI's so i'd hope they know there way around an audi engine as there all vag units at the end of the day regardless of the badge on the front.

As i've posted above, because superchips is a franchise it's possible theres some bad ones out there which i why you'd get bad reports, as a comparison you only have to look in the delaers section of this forum to see how bad some audi dealers can be.

just my 2p's worth

 

[S3Steve]

There the tuners for the volkswagen racing cup in which most VAG cars compete ranging from tdi beetles through to VR6 golfs and the new Mk V GTI's so i'd hope they know there way around an audi engine as there all vag units at the end of the day regardless of the badge on the front.



just my 2p's worth

Has this changed then, because Rob Carvell won the VW Racing Cup in a 1.8t engined Lupo mapped by Jabba a couple of years back, and dont Revo sponsor a Golf that runs in it now, wouldnt it be a bit strange for them to sponsor a car mapped by someone else. Im not trying to start an argument just curious.
As for the mapping question, ive only ever driven a diesel A3 that was Superchipped (well as far as VAG cars go) and it was very good. However if it was my money id always opt for a specialist to tune my car not a general tuner/mapper. For this reason id go for Jabba, AMD, Star etc. Personally I went for Jabba, because they are the closest to me and I have driven other 1.8T's mapped by them and had been impressed by the maps.

 

[Buzz]

I have a Superchip fitted to my 2.5 TDI and I have had no problems with it for nearly 40K miles. It has made the engine smoother, more responsive with better torque throughout the rev range and very little increase in mpg - I'm well happy. As has been said previously, a lot depends on the outfit who did the installation. Autotechnics of Gillingham in Dorset did mine and I would highly recommend them.

 

[mintie]

I see chris mentioned a GIAC remap who on here has had one done my mate around the corner from where I live keeps on telling me to have this but ive already got a REVO remap
Rolling roaded at QST after the new 225 engine went in peak power was only 252 bhp. I was exspecting more!!!!!!!

 

[ChriS3]

IMO thats a bit harsh chris - If you've never used superchips how do you know there no good with the 1.8t engine?

There the tuners for the volkswagen racing cup in which most VAG cars compete ranging from tdi beetles through to VR6 golfs and the new Mk V GTI's so i'd hope they know there way around an audi engine as there all vag units at the end of the day regardless of the badge on the front.

As i've posted above, because superchips is a franchise it's possible theres some bad ones out there which i why you'd get bad reports, as a comparison you only have to look in the delaers section of this forum to see how bad some audi dealers can be.

just my 2p's worth

Not really harsh, for the very reasons you go on to mention. VR6's and Mk V GTi's are not 1.8T's. Superchips are just not popular on VAG cars and in my opinion, they don't get the same exposure to these cars as someone like Jabba or AMD. And being a franchise, it's pot luck as to whether or not you get someone that know's what they're doing with your car when you take it to a garage. How many VAG-specific tuners use Superchips?

I see chris mentioned a GIAC remap who on here has had one done my mate around the corner from where I live keeps on telling me to have this but ive already got a REVO remap
Rolling roaded at QST after the new 225 engine went in peak power was only 252 bhp. I was exspecting more!!!!!!!

GIAC are relatively unknown over here, but they're one of the biggest over in the states. Very good maps indeed.

252bhp isn't all that bad after a remap. Could be down to the rolling-road and the weather on the day. I'll bet it drives well and puts a smile on your face?

 

[MikeA3]

Has this changed then, because Rob Carvell won the VW Racing Cup in a 1.8t engined Lupo mapped by Jabba a couple of years back, and dont Revo sponsor a Golf that runs in it now, wouldnt it be a bit strange for them to sponsor a car mapped by someone else. Im not trying to start an argument just curious.
As for the mapping question, ive only ever driven a diesel A3 that was Superchipped (well as far as VAG cars go) and it was very good. However if it was my money id always opt for a specialist to tune my car not a general tuner/mapper. For this reason id go for Jabba, AMD, Star etc. Personally I went for Jabba, because they are the closest to me and I have driven other 1.8T's mapped by them and had been impressed by the maps.

Thats what the technician who did my remap told me, i think they also sponsor some bikes as well as they had a mini rolling road at their HQ in bucks

it's also on their website here http://www.superchips.co.uk/motorsport.php

 

[mintie]

The smile gets even bigger when its tracked, last year i was behind a S4 with over 400 brake couldnt leave me but i did not have enough grunt coming out of the corner to get past him, maybe NOS is the answer cheaper than a turbo upgrade???