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    Which lowers more H&R, Eibach or MTM Springs

    As above, trying to decide which to order. Want the car low!!. Be really good if you can post the measurement from wheel centre to the wheel arch.

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    I think its the Eibach sportline that lowers 50 milametres some one may correct me if im wrong though

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver75
    I think its the Eibach sportline that lowers 50 milametres some one may correct me if im wrong though
    am i right in thinking there not available for an S3? Or will the A3 ones fit ok?

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    Lowest all of the do is 30mm front and 25mm rear for the S3.
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    sorry forgot you said S3.

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    If you want to lower it by 50mm, you'd best go for full coilovers rather than just springs. IMO S3's look best when dropped by 30mm - no issues when running spacers either
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    I agree, 30mm looks just right, gives a better stance

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    I love S3's dropped on there bums and i would have mine lower then the -30mm it is at the moment but with coilovers i've always found a very harsh ride no matter what the road type. It's all down to how you yourself want the car and what you're prepared to put up with. Either way give us a shout and we'll sort you out with what ever you need! :o (really sorry people, always got to promote the business though)
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    Quick question I heard that my A3 sport is 30 mm lower than the SE and the standard so the Eibach 50 mm should lower it by another 20 mm? Right or wrong?

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    Hi Leecs3

    Its well documented on this site that the best setup for the S3 is H&R springs, Bilstein dampers and neuspeed anti roll bars. Have a read of Ess Three's posts, will probably save you time and money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPM
    I love S3's dropped on there bums and i would have mine lower then the -30mm it is at the moment but with coilovers i've always found a very harsh ride no matter what the road type. It's all down to how you yourself want the car and what you're prepared to put up with. Either way give us a shout and we'll sort you out with what ever you need! :o (really sorry people, always got to promote the business though)


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    thats a start now what about Bilstein dampers ?????


    your gonna make me do this arnt you!!!!!!!!!!!! dam you lol

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    done a little ride height research on Autotrader. MTM is looking the best option so far. Not got any pics of H&R's yet.

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    those mtm ones look too low for my liking.

    would be interested in seeing some H&R drops though


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    I like the Eibachs, think the H&R's are only -25mm drop if memory serves me right, and Eibachs are 35mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Slug
    I like the Eibachs, think the H&R's are only -25mm drop if memory serves me right, and Eibachs are 35mm

    can any post up pics of a car on H&R springs??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS3
    Hi Leecs3

    Its well documented on this site that the best setup for the S3 is H&R springs, Bilstein dampers and neuspeed anti roll bars. Have a read of Ess Three's posts, will probably save you time and money.
    I saw Glen's (Ess_Three) old S3 at the weekend, and I'd have to say it looks lower than mine. I have my coilovers at -30mm. The bilstien dampners are better on the road than my eibachs, and if I were to do it again I'd go for the H&R/Billy combo. Or the PSS9 coilovers.

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    Glen's looks slammed, i'd say yours is a very similar height to mine with my Eibach springs on Chris. If i was to do it again i'd either go for the H&R comfort coilovers or the Billy PSS9's!
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    springs

    Go for the MTM's I had H&R's on mine the coils end up closing up and you get a really bad ride hit a bump at speed and you swap lanes! the MTM's have changed the car and still just as low

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenno
    Go for the MTM's I had H&R's on mine the coils end up closing up and you get a really bad ride hit a bump at speed and you swap lanes! the MTM's have changed the car and still just as low
    too late, ordered H&R today. Figure i've got H&R ARB's so may as well use there springs too. Nearly went for coilovers but the S3 is meant to be a sensible daily driver. Saving up for dampers now, thinking koni adjustable at the minute so i can stiffen them up for trackdays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChriS3
    I saw Glen's (Ess_Three) old S3 at the weekend, and I'd have to say it looks lower than mine. I have my coilovers at -30mm. The bilstien dampners are better on the road than my eibachs, and if I were to do it again I'd go for the H&R/Billy combo. Or the PSS9 coilovers.

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    Are those BBS RCs on the top car? Are there any more pics of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyS3
    Hi Leecs3

    Its well documented on this site that the best setup for the S3 is H&R springs, Bilstein dampers and neuspeed anti roll bars. Have a read of Ess Three's posts, will probably save you time and money.
    Eh... no!

    Ess_Three's suspension setup at the end was H&R springs with Bilsteins and Neuspeed tie bars. Glen (Ess_Three) started out with H&R springs on OEM shocks, but then eventually changed the standard shocks for Bilsteins.

    As for what lowers the car most... all springs for the S3 will lower by 20/25mm. Any lower and you'll do damage to the car... i.e. sump. Fit coilovers and wind them down at your own risk, but if you drive "energetically"... BEWARE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Slug
    I like the Eibachs, think the H&R's are only -25mm drop if memory serves me right, and Eibachs are 35mm
    Nope...

    Eibach Pro springs for the S3 lower the front by 25mm and the rear by 20mm.
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    My S3 with Bilsteins and Eibach Pro springs

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    APR stage 1, APR Carbon Fibre Intake System, wheels spacers


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    My S3 on H&R Springs



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    Quote Originally Posted by S3Steve
    Looks good, but it looks like you could do with some tiebars and spacers!

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    Cool

    Yeah ive got a fair bit of rear camber at the moment, not got round to getting adjustable tiebars yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imola_S3
    Eh... no!

    Ess_Three's suspension setup at the end was H&R springs with Bilsteins and Neuspeed tie bars. Glen (Ess_Three) started out with H&R springs on OEM shocks, but then eventually changed the standard shocks for Bilsteins.
    Nope - the original post was correct I think (H&R, Bilstein, Neuspeed ARBs, forge adjustable arms) iirc.

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    And here is mine on ABT springs which are supposedly lowering by 15mm, but most of the people who saw my car at GTi International thought it was a lot lower at the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bantam1
    Nope - the original post was correct I think (H&R, Bilstein, Neuspeed ARBs, forge adjustable arms) iirc.
    That was Glen's setup in the end. That doesn't mean it's the best setup... it means that that setup is proven to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3Steve
    Yeah ive got a fair bit of rear camber at the moment, not got round to getting adjustable tiebars yet.
    I have a set for sale if you're interested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imola_S3
    My S3 with Bilsteins and Eibach Pro springs


    The Eibach's seem to have a much nicer rear stance IMO
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