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    Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Hi everybody,

    just had the above set up fitted on the car this morning.

    I must say I expected a 35 mm drop in ride height but the car didn't drop a single mm.

    Is the sport model already lowered by audi?

    The code on the springs reads 29767-1.

    Thanks

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    I am also thinking of swapping them springs with the H&R 29768 model which gives a 50mm drop.

    Do you think I am going to run into ARB rubbing problems? There seems to be plenty of space between the ARB and the drivesaft...

    Has anyone else lowered an A3 1.8TS FWD using the above combination?

    Thanks again

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    If you have only just fitted them, give it a week or two to settle, standard sport suspension is approx.10mm lower than standard at most I would have thought.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    The thing is that I have a chance of swapping them free of charge with the H&R 29768 model which gives a 50mm drop. But I can only do it this Tuesday, while the springs are brand new.
    If I leave them on the car for a week or two then I will not be able to swap them.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    The T sport model is indeed already dropped by Audi. So the 50mm drop springs will drop less than 50mm, I think the sport already had a 30mm drop.

    Why didn't you buy Coilovers?

    I'd get the lower springs.....

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    You really need to know what you are doing when it comes to adjusting Coilovers (bound, rebound, etc....)

    Neither I nor any mechanic I know of here in Greece can help me with the set-up. Of course there are many know-it-all mechanics and I don't really trust them.

    Anyway I thought I'd stay on the safe side using the fixed adjustments of the bilstein engineers.

    Does anyone know if I am going to run into Drivesaft vs ARB problems?
    Has anyone else here used a Bilstein Sprint and H&R Sport springs (35mm or 50mm) on a FWD A3 1.8TS?

    Thanks for the answers so far [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    I've got the -30-ish mm Eibachs and Bilstein B4's on my 1.8T and didn't notice much drop - maybe 10mm tops - as others have said the standard suspension is lower than some other A3s anyway. I think my standard suspension was sagging a bit too.

    Conventional wisdom is that -50mm may cause problems with driveshaft/ARB fouling, but not having tried it myself I couldn't say. Eibach and Neuspeed aftermarket ARBs are designed to get round this problem if you can get hold of them.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    I'm using H&R 50mm springs on Eibach dampers and the drop is about the perfect hieight for the A3...Low enougyh to look good, but not too low to be impractical! Go for the 50mm springs.

    Rich

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Any fouling of the front ARB Rich? Or are you on aftermarket ARBs?

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Thanks everybody,

    just payed a visit to my mechanic this morning, said the H&R dealer wasn't very keen on the idea of the exchanging the springs but will see what he can do as I'v driven the car for less than 50 miles just to see if the springs will settle any lower.

    Will try to post some pics later on [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    No fouling on the ARB's, ever...

    RIch

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Thanx rich!

    Is the sport model any different on the ARB setup?

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Anyway for anyone thinking of using the Bilstein Sprints + H&R Sport 35mm spings setup here are the pics:

    OEM with Boge in front and Monroe in the rear (don't know about the springs)




    Bilstein Sprints + H&R Sport 35mm spings all around



    Front looks lower with the new setup while the rear a bit higher...
    I think it is the picture that deceives you [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    I will post new pics if I manage to fit the 50mm H&Rs

    Rich have you fitted the Sport or Race springs?

    I am after the 29768-1 part number on H&R which I think it is the sport one

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    I'd be interested in Rich's answer to the ARB question with the 50mm springs. And a picture would be good too.

    Darnich, car has hardly dropped at all, I can see why you're bothered!!

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Here is my car with 50mm springs (ages ago!)


    A3T only came as a sport model, and i believe all models have the same ARB's.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Your car looks AMAZING!

    When I finally get round to popping over to Witney, I'll bring the Camera with me!

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    My car came with the red <font color="red"> T </font> on the 1.8T badge, and options like 3 spoke steering wheel, etc...

    I thought that sport models were only the ones with the red <font color="red"> T </font> [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/froggie_red.gif[/img]

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    i thought the red T was off of the TDI with the extra BHP

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Guys I think we need to remember Darnish is in Greece, they could have sold any different version of the car that we don't know about over there...

    Rich, your car looks great [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bravo.gif[/img]

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Thanks...it doenst look much like that anymore...No graphics,FMIC, different wheels .etc...Looks better now i guess! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    well we obviously need a new pic then... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    A3 1.8T is 150bhp model, 1.8T with red "T" is 180 bhp model. AFAIK same springs, ARBs etc. And 3-spoke wheel + others are included in sports pack.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    I bought the car second hand.

    It is an import from Germany...
    Greeks do import loads of german cars

    It has an AGU engine (used to be 150 hp) although it came with a dyno on the glove compartment that showed 161 hp on the crank

    Anyway the car is actually a german and not a greek version


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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Darnich,

    Just to clarify ...is yours a quattro (ie 4 wheel haldex drive arrangement)? or just FWD?

    The reason i ask is since the red T emblem was only used in Audi UK officially supplied cars on the A3 1.8T quattro sport which has 180 PS. I know in Germay at least there was a 1.8T quattro Ambition spec with only 150 PS...Drill has this on these forums. Since yours is Nothelle chipped they could have removed the quattro badging.

    Anyway the important point is the rear suspension on quattros is significantly different than ordinary 1.8T Sport (FWD)...and to my knowledge you should therefore be using the S3 H&R lowered spring kit and not the ordinary 1.8T (FWD) one.

    HTH

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    As you can see from my sig the car is a FWD

    I took the car to Nothelle after I bought it (..then spend a fortune there [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

    Anyway the car has a rear axle and not an independent suspention like the Quattro model...

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    With Coilovers with Adjustable dampers - most specifically the FK Koenigsport, when would you adjust the dampers? When on the track? Would you make them harder or slightly softer, I imagine harder given our cacky UK roads.
    Can they be adjusted on the car easily? From the top mounts or something?

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    The fronts are generally top adjustable with a cap that you turn either way for soft/hard settings.... Rears are a different matter... Koni rear adjustables are not adjustable on the car... you have to remove them to adjust them which is a bit annoying.. the only coilovers i've seen that are rear adjustable ON the car, are Spax RSX

    Rich

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

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    rear adjustables are not adjustable on the car... you have to remove them to adjust them which is a bit annoying..

    Rich

    [/ QUOTE ]


    About as much use as a chocolate tea pot then!

    Anyone know about the KW's? As I am lookng to buy some of them in near future.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    I think Variant 3's have remote adjusters... I think they have braided hoses running to an adjuster which you can put in the engine bay....though i may be getting confused with some others.

    Rich

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Hmm sounds expensive if you are running braided hoses into the engine bay. Not looked into the price of them yet. Just know that I want KW's after reading reviews etc...

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

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    rear adjustables are not adjustable on the car... you have to remove them to adjust them which is a bit annoying..

    Rich

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    About as much use as a chocolate tea pot then!

    Anyone know about the KW's? As I am lookng to buy some of them in near future.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I can remove both shocks on an A3 in about 10 minutes, so not that useless. And you won't be adjusting the every day either. Infact most people adjust them a couple of times and then leave it.

    KW are deffo a good choice tho.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

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    rear adjustables are not adjustable on the car... you have to remove them to adjust them which is a bit annoying..

    Rich

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    About as much use as a chocolate tea pot then!

    Anyone know about the KW's? As I am lookng to buy some of them in near future.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I can remove both shocks on an A3 in about 10 minutes, so not that useless. And you won't be adjusting the every day either. Infact most people adjust them a couple of times and then leave it.

    KW are deffo a good choice tho.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Yeah the rears are not a big job my anymeans... But still more hastle than an adjuster.

    RIch

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

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    Hmm sounds expensive if you are running braided hoses into the engine bay. Not looked into the price of them yet. Just know that I want KW's after reading reviews etc...

    [/ QUOTE ]

    http://www.kw-suspension.com/en/30_P...nt_3/index.php

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    kw v1 and eibach pro street-s are exactly the same product, the eibachs are around 100 cheeper at around 620 . ive got them on my car they are ace. great handing and very nice and comfortable over the bumpy stuff. no banging and clatering. recomended

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

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    kw v1 and eibach pro street-s are exactly the same product, the eibachs are around 100 cheeper at around 620 . ive got them on my car they are ace. great handing and very nice and comfortable over the bumpy stuff. no banging and clatering. recomended

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Are you sure? I know FK's use Koni shocks.

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    yep its true, reason i know is i had some kw v1s before i got the eibachs. also it says made by kw on the stickers

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Konigsports use Koni shocks thus the name.

    Highsports don't.

    Interesting about the Eibach/KW thing.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Interesting, as Koni don't seem to use the for anything on their website.

    However FK make Knigsports, and Knig in German is 'King'.

    I know FK do use Koni dampers, however I would say that the name is not connected in any way, they are just similar sounding to English people, but not the same.

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    Re: Bilstein Sprint + H&R sport springs on A3 1.8TS

    Well... so where are the 50mm's drop pics? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

    I was thinking aout the 35mm drop but you put me aware of this issue.

 

 
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