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Friday28June201310:38:25:32264
8N0 906 018 BP1.8L R4/5VT 0002
Group A:'002Group B:'022Group C:'115
Engine SpeedEngine LoadInjection TimingMass Air FlowEngine SpeedEngine LoadTiming RetardationTiming RetardationEngine SpeedEngine LoadBoost PressureBoost Pressure
TIME(G28)Sensor (G70)TIME(G28)Cylinder 1Cylinder 2TIME(G28)(specified)(actual)
MarkerSTAMP /min % ms g/sSTAMP /min %°KW°KWSTAMP /min % mbar mbar
0.372033.12.384.810.672033.1000.0272033.110001000
1.2172035.32.385.51.5172036.1000.9172033.110001000
2.1172036.12.385.252.4172036.1001.8172036.110001000
3.0276035.32.385.223.32108069.9002.7272035.310001000
3.92216069.95.7831.174.23204074.4003.63176076.71120990
4.83200087.27.4836.065.13220098.5004.53196078.911901110
5.732800112.89.8662.616.053320128.6005.44232010316101250
6.654600191.713.94223.336.955360191.731.56.343880176.722701830
7.55548013.51.366.927.865160104.5007.255960152.614301920
8.464480191.718.36209.538.764840191.71.50.88.164120171.422201720
9.37504022.61.3615.199.67456012009.065160185.717502140
10.27368066.95.7845.7210.56376045.9009.97412017.310001140
11.17372025.62.0415.3111.48372012.80010.87376042.910001180
12.07364012.81.369.6412.383600120011.77368012.810001060
12.98352012.80913.28348013.50012.6735601210001040
13.89340013.508.8614.18336013.50013.59344012.810001030
14.78328013.508.6915.09324012.80014.48332012.810001030
15.7316012.808.1915.99312012.80015.39320012.810001030
16.59308012.807.7216.91304012.80016.29312012.810001020
17.51296012.807.5317.81292012.80017.21300012.810001020
18.4284012.807.1718.71280012.80018.1288012.810001020
19.31276012.806.9219.62272013.50019.01280012.810001020
20.23268021.11.710.6720.52268030.10019.92268015.810001010
21.13264033.12.7217.3621.42264035.30020.83264036.810001000
22.03276081.27.4845.5622.342840910021.73272068.41880970
22.943080130.111.5683.2823.243200162.40022.642960110.522001370
23.84352018814.9617224.1537201880023.553360191.722502110
24.754080191.718.36168.9225.054280191.70024.453880191.722602520
25.664640191.717.68185.1925.964840191.70025.364480191.722602350
26.565200191.716.66194.5626.865360191.70026.265040191.722402230
27.47564018515.98199.6427.7757601820027.175480186.522602140
28.376040184.215.98208.0628.676160179.70028.075920183.522902080
29.286400173.714.62213.1929.596520175.20028.996280176.722202060
30.196720172.914.96222.4230.56840169.90029.886600172.921102030
31.09620027.82.7212.6131.395320175.20030.796760113.510001930
31.995280191.718.7211.2232.35360191.70031.695200191.722202130
32.9552018816.32198.0633.25560186.53332.65440186.522202190
33.85680166.912.92111.1134.115360120033.55640188.722502140
34.7444012.807.7535400012.80034.4148801210001250
35.61320012.808.0635.91280013.50035.3360012.810001070
36.51208013.505.1136.81172012.80036.21244013.510001030
37.42112013.51.363.2237.7292023.30037.11136012.810001020
38.3260040.65.19.0638.6264051.90038.0272027.810001010
39.2272040.63.45.2839.5372038.30038.9268045.110001000
40.1372036.83.45.0840.4372036.80039.8372036.810001000
41.0472036.13.065.1441.3472036.10040.7372036.110001000
41.9472036.13.065.1142.2472035.30041.6472036.110001000
42.8572035.33.065.0643.1572035.30042.5472035.310001000
43.7572035.33.065.1444.0572035.30043.4572035.310001000
44.6672034.63.065.0644.9676034.60044.3672035.310001000
45.5672034.63.065.1145.8672035.30045.2672035.310001000
46.4772035.33.065.1146.7772035.30046.1672035.310001000
47.3976034.62.725.0647.6776034.60047.0772035.310001000
48.2976033.82.384.9748.5876033.10047.9776033.810001000
49.1976032.32.384.7249.4976032.30048.8876033.110001000
50.0976032.32.384.7250.3976032.30049.7976031.610001000
50.9972030.82.044.6751.2976030.80050.6976031.610001000
51.976031.62.044.6152.272030.80051.676030.810001000
52.8176030.12.044.6953.1172030.80052.5276030.810001000
53.7176030.12.044.5854.0172030.80053.4176030.810001000
54.6172030.12.044.4754.9172030.10054.3172030.110001000
55.5272030.82.384.5355.8272030.80055.2272030.810001000
56.4272031.62.384.7856.7376031.60056.1272030.810001000
57.3376031.62.384.6157.6372031.60057.0372031.610001000
58.2372030.82.044.5358.5472030.80057.9376030.810001000
59.1480029.32.044.5659.4476027.10058.8476030.810001000
60.0472028.62.044.2560.3572028.60059.7472027.810001000
60.9576028.62.044.2261.2572029.30060.6572029.310001000
61.8672030.12.044.3362.1672030.10061.5572029.310001000
62.7672030.12.044.3963.0672030.10062.4672030.110001000
63.6776030.12.044.4263.9784036.80063.3676030.110001000
64.57116068.46.1218.3964.87132074.40064.27104051.110001000
65.48184071.45.125.8365.79212069.90065.18160071.410901020
66.39268071.46.1237.8366.68296066.90066.09236071.411701100
67.3344052.64.4233.1967.6360047.40066.99324054.910001190
68.19284013.51.367.6768.49232027.10067.9324013.510001140
69.11244048.14.0822.8969.41248049.60068.81248057.910001030
70264046.63.7423.9270.31268042.90069.71256048.910001050
70.92276042.13.422.1471.22280042.10070.6272042.910001050
71.81284034.62.7218.5372.12284025.60071.52280041.410001040
72.73280037.63.0624.1173.03280035.30072.43284024.110001030
73.62280036.12.7219.6973.93280025.60073.32280036.110001020
74.53272024.81.714.0874.83272030.10074.24276019.510001020
75.44252013.51.366.9775.74240025.60075.13260023.310001020
76.35236027.82.0412.8976.64228030.10076.04236027.810001010
77.25232056.45.129.6777.55240063.20076.94232051.910001000
78.15252051.14.0816.1778.45256036.10077.84248064.710001090
79.052480151.366.4279.35240014.30078.75252025.610001060
79.97232022.61.710.4280.27232032.30079.6723601810001030
80.87224030.12.041481.17224030.80080.57228030.810001010
81.77232062.45.4431.4482.08236062.40081.47224042.110001010
82.67252065.45.4432.9482.98260062.40082.38244063.210001080
83.59272052.64.4227.8183.89280048.90083.29268054.110001140
84.48244014.31.366.8184.8240057.10084.18272036.110001110
85.39204078.26.4633.3385.69212080.50085.1204060.210001050
86.3224083.57.1437.4786.61232088.70085.9921608212301180
87.21248092.57.8244.1787.51256080.50086.9240092.513301290
88.11256024.82.04988.42256025.60087.81256048.110001270
89.01256050.44.4225.7289.32260051.10088.72256049.610001050
89.93256034.63.421.6190.22260072.90089.61260041.410001070
90.83264032.32.3813.3991.12264023.30090.53264066.910001130
91.74260020.32.0412.9792.03256027.80091.43260014.310001050
92.63256039.83.418.8992.94256037.60092.34260057.110001010
93.54252025.61.78.593.85252014.30093.24256039.110001030
94.45244013.51.367.0694.74240012.80094.14248013.510001020
95.362320151.77.8995.65228027.10095.04232013.510001020
96.26224032.32.7214.5396.56224046.60095.95228026.310001010
97.16228049.64.0821.7297.46228036.80096.87224050.410001010
98.06224033.12.3814.5398.36224033.80097.76228033.810001020
98.98220025.61.78.6799.27216014.30098.67224034.610001010
99.87220097.78.8439.19100.17220083.50099.57216017.310001010
100.792400103.89.8651.92101.092480115.800100.4822809421401160
101.692720136.811.5675.83101.992880154.900101.382600124.822201470
102.63120191.715.3135.78102.93280184.200102.33000173.722301890
103.493640191.719.04154.14103.83840191.700103.23480186.522702540
104.414200191.718.02173.36104.714400191.700104.14000191.722702440
105.314760191.717.68191.78105.624920191.700105.014560191.722702340
106.225240191.716.32194.89106.525400191.700105.925080191.722302200
107.12564018816.32204.25107.42580018200106.825520191.722702120
108.03604018215.64206.11108.336160179.700107.73592018223002120
108.936360176.714.96217.36109.246480173.700108.636280178.922202000
109.856680169.214.62220.53110.146760171.400109.546560175.221302000
110.74652019.51.774.89111.05628080.500110.446880167.720302110
111.655160191.727.54228.39111.955240191.700111.355240136.122301580
112.575360188.715.98190.72112.865440186.500112.255280191.722302250
113.47544056.44.4256.86113.7654001200113.165520186.522402160
114.36504012.809.81114.6748801200114.06524012.810001200
115.26476012.8011.78115.58472012.800114.9748401210001050
116.18464012.8011.31116.48460012.800115.87468012.810001020
117.08444012.8010.92117.3843601200116.7845601210001020
117.99432012.81.3611.33118.29428021.800117.69436012.810001020
118.89428075.26.4670.39119.19428029.300118.6432076.71260950
119.84320125.611.22121.33120.1440019100119.5436066.919801040
120.74560191.719.38192.671214640191.703120.44480191.722202410
121.614840191.716.66180.36121.914920191.703121.314760191.722302230
122.515080191.717192.69122.815160191.702.3122.215000191.722402220
123.425200885.182.11123.72520011.300123.115200191.722502230
124.32512012.8010.75124.6150801200124.02516012.810001190
125.23488012.8012.06125.53444012.800124.9350401210001050
126.13320014.31.78.44126.42320042.900125.82400013.510001030
thanks Mark
 
Firstly... Bill has had a customer drive over from Norway so you are just being a wuss lol

Secondly... what problem(s) do you think you have?

Lastly... its easier if you just post the actual run data rather than all the other stuff around it... makes it easier to read and decipher...

Can you chop out the irrelevant rows and just post the actual run data?

From what I can make out you are showing good airflow (220+ g/s), minimal timing pull (on cyls 1 and 2 at least as you want to use block 20 for this really) and a boost overshoot on spool (3.5k to 4k ish) of 200-300mbar

<tuffty/>
 
222g/s ~ 277bhp worth of airflow
Not too bad - pretty good

003.020.115
002.020.118
002.031.112
002.112.118

^^ other blocks to log under WOT..
 
thanks for the reply,
really just wanted to know if this was a good remap for my 225bam with no mods other than an uprated air filter.

whats the best data to log?

as u say bit of a wuss if some one has come to see 'the man' from norway.
thanks mark
 
thanks for the reply,
really just wanted to know if this was a good remap for my 225bam with no mods other than an uprated air filter.

whats the best data to log?

as u say bit of a wuss if some one has come to see 'the man' from norway.
thanks mark

Would ideally like to see what fuelling is doing too... log blocks as Bill has suggested above... info about these blocks (and others) can be found here: http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/m_blocks/

<tuffty/>
 
From Bill's list... blocks 002, 031, 112

Info on what these do is in the link I posted

<tuffty/>
 
blocks 002, 031, 112
how do you think they are looking?

8N0 906 018 BP1.8L R4/5VT 0002
Group A:'002Group B:'031Group C:'112
Engine SpeedEngine LoadInjection TimingMass Air FlowLambda ControlLambda ControlBin. BitsBin. BitsExhaust GasEnrichment FactorBin. BitsBin. Bits
TIME(G28)Sensor (G70)TIMEBank 1 (actual)Bank 1 (specified)TIMETemperature Bank 1Sensor Bank 1
MarkerSTAMP /min % ms g/sSTAMPSTAMP°C %
195.79188066.25.4424.92195.180.9921 195.485300
196.69228042.12.3811.06196.090.9841 196.45500
197.59196081.26.4633.5196.9911 197.35700
198.51196076.76.1229.03197.91.0231 198.25800
199.42232060.94.7626.64198.81.0081 199.115950
200.31204014.31.364.86199.7211 200.026050
201.22176059.44.4220.92200.611.2031 200.926150
202.13192061.75.122.69201.530.9841 201.826150
203.03212093.28.1641.03202.420.9841 202.736150
203.94236010910.253.72203.340.9611 203.636200
204.842760132.311.2274.58204.240.930.953 204.556350
205.74320018214.28122.25205.140.9450.953 205.446550
206.66376018518.36170.36206.050.9220.945 206.356900
207.564320191.717.34169.47206.960.8280.914 207.267500
208.474920191.717185.61207.850.8830.891 208.177950
209.37540018816.66192.56208.770.8910.875 209.078400
210.285840179.715.64202.42209.670.860.875 209.988600
211.186200175.915.3213.56210.580.860.875 210.888900
212.096560169.914.28217.44211.490.8670.875 211.799050
2136880164.713.94222.64212.390.860.86 212.699253.9
213.96200121.814.96157.72213.310.8050.813 213.69359.8
214.85360191.719.04198.06214.20.750.789 214.59309.4
215.715600181.215.64197.58215.110.860.883 215.418950
216.62468012.81.369.61216.010.750.93 216.318950
217.51348013.509.44216.921.0081.047 217.229000
218.41240013.506.25217.811.9911.047 218.118700
219.32140012.81.023.61218.721.9911.047 219.028300
220.2384021.81.363.5219.631.9910.945 219.927900
221.1372031.62.044.31220.531.2890.945 220.837650
222.0472030.82.044.44221.430.9380.945 221.737450
222.9472030.81.74.44222.340.8910.945 222.647250
223.8580033.11.74.08223.250.9220.945 223.547150
224.75116047.43.7410.31224.150.9450.945 224.457000
225.67212033.82.7214.17225.050.8440.945 225.376900
thanks mark
 
Just a few observations...
Fuelling could be richer IMO... looking for 0.85 lambda under boost... EGT's rise quickly which could be controlled a bit better with a little more fuel, load drops off a bit (191 being full load)...

Would want to see what timing is doing and where the throttle plate is... 003, 020 ,115 next :)

What gear you doing these in? third?

<tuffty/>
 
First appols to badger, im a bit new to this please keep posting.

here is the logs requested.

im hope there ok?

8N0 906 018 BP1.8L R4/5VT 0002
Group A:'003Group B:'020Group C:'115
Engine SpeedMass Air FlowThrottle Valve AngleIgnitionTiming RetardationTiming RetardationTiming RetardationTiming RetardationEngine SpeedEngine LoadBoost PressureBoost Pressure
TIME(G28)Sensor (G70)Timing AngleTIMECylinder 1Cylinder 2Cylinder 3Cylinder 4TIME(G28)(specified)(actual)
MarkerSTAMP /min g/s % °BTDCSTAMP°KW°KW°KW°KWSTAMP /min % mbar mbar
22.2820405.222.4-3.821.67000021.98208012.810001010
23.19216040.33891822.58000022.88208086.519101010
24.1248058.9246.713.523.49000023.792400104.521801260
25288088.541.610.524.4000024.692760133.121901550
25.91336015944.3625.31000025.613200190.222002070
26.83920165.2547.5926.21000026.513760191.722302500
27.724520178.7849.88.327.120.803.83.827.424320191.722302330
28.625040191.552.512.828.02002.3328.324880191.722102270
29.535560200.9251.41228.93000.81.529.235360191.722402160
30.435960210.7554.912.829.83000030.13584018222802110
31.346360213.0654.913.530.74000031.046240180.522201980
32.256680219.8154.91831.64000031.946560172.921202050
33.166960227.3649932.55000032.856880167.720302110
34.065720126.9239.629.333.45000033.7663201210001530
34.965360206.4752.99.834.35001.5334.665240191.722002240
35.8653609.865.1635.26030.82.335.565400113.510001700
36.77524011.537.1636.17000036.47528012.810001120
Group A:'002Group B:'020Group C:'118
Engine SpeedEngine LoadInjection TimingMass Air FlowTiming RetardationTiming RetardationTiming RetardationTiming RetardationEngine SpeedIntake AirBoost PressureBoost Pressure
TIME(G28)Sensor (G70)TIMECylinder 1Cylinder 2Cylinder 3Cylinder 4TIME(G28)Temperature (G42)Control (N75)(actual)
MarkerSTAMP /min % ms g/sSTAMP°KW°KW°KW°KWSTAMP /min°C % mbar
9.66180096.27.8234.589.0500009.3517202494.51140
10.572120108.39.5246.089.96000010.2620002494.51250
11.472480131.611.2265.1910.86000011.1723602494.51410
12.382880162.412.5895.1711.77000012.0827202494.51670
13.293320187.215.3157.9712.69000012.99316024822200
14.193880191.717164.0313.59000013.8936802679.62400
15.14440191.717.34176.6914.49000014.842402679.62350
164960191.717188.1415.4000015.7480027802270
16.915440190.216.32196.7216.3003016.6152802985.92160
17.815880184.215.98206.0617.21003017.5157203091.42080
18.726240178.915.3210.6718.12002.3018.4261203292.52040
19.636600172.914.28218.6419.02002.3019.3364803388.22030
20.536880166.213.94219.5819.93031.5020.23676036802050
21.435800140.616.66188.6420.84031.5021.1362003501530
22.345320191.718.36205.9221.74001.5022.0452403686.72270
23.24552018515.98194.522.64034.5022.9454403884.32160
24.15572018515.3201.1923.55034.5023.8556803990.62090
25.06476012.81.368.3324.45000024.7552003701360
25.96352012.808.6925.35000025.6639603401080
26.86244013.506.3626.25000026.5528003301040
27.761400121.023.2827.16000027.4617203301020
Group A:'002Group B:'031Group C:'112
Engine SpeedEngine LoadInjection TimingMass Air FlowLambda ControlLambda ControlBin. BitsBin. BitsExhaust GasEnrichment FactorBin. BitsBin. Bits
TIME(G28)Sensor (G70)TIMEBank 1 (actual)Bank 1 (specified)TIMETemperature Bank 1Sensor Bank 1
MarkerSTAMP /min % ms g/sSTAMPSTAMP°C %
202.13192061.75.122.69201.530.9841 201.826150
203.03212093.28.1641.03202.420.9841 202.736150
203.94236010910.253.72203.340.9611 203.636200
204.842760132.311.2274.58204.240.930.953 204.556350
205.74320018214.28122.25205.140.9450.953 205.446550
206.66376018518.36170.36206.050.9220.945 206.356900
207.564320191.717.34169.47206.960.8280.914 207.267500
208.474920191.717185.61207.850.8830.891 208.177950
209.37540018816.66192.56208.770.8910.875 209.078400
210.285840179.715.64202.42209.670.860.875 209.988600
211.186200175.915.3213.56210.580.860.875 210.888900
212.096560169.914.28217.44211.490.8670.875 211.799050
2136880164.713.94222.64212.390.860.86 212.699253.9
213.96200121.814.96157.72213.310.8050.813 213.69359.8
214.85360191.719.04198.06214.20.750.789 214.59309.4
215.715600181.215.64197.58215.110.860.883 215.418950
216.62468012.81.369.61216.010.750.93 216.318950
217.51348013.509.44216.921.0081.047 217.229000
218.41240013.506.25217.811.9911.047 218.118700
219.32140012.81.023.61218.721.9911.047 219.028300
220.2384021.81.363.5219.631.9910.945 219.927900
221.1372031.62.044.31220.531.2890.945 220.837650
222.0472030.82.044.44221.430.9380.945 221.737450
222.9472030.81.74.44222.340.8910.945 222.647250
223.8580033.11.74.08223.250.9220.945 223.547150
224.75116047.43.7410.31224.150.9450.945 224.457000
225.67212033.82.7214.17225.050.8440.945 225.376900
Group A:'002Group B:'112Group C:'118
Engine SpeedEngine LoadInjection TimingMass Air FlowExhaust GasEnrichment FactorBin. BitsBin. BitsEngine SpeedIntake AirBoost PressureBoost Pressure
TIME(G28)Sensor (G70)TIMETemperature Bank 1Sensor Bank 1TIME(G28)Temperature (G42)Control (N75)(actual)
MarkerSTAMP /min % ms g/sSTAMP°C %STAMP /min°C % mbar
10.27208085.76.837.089.666150 9.9620802701100
11.171960978.1637.9710.566300 10.8718402954.11160
12.082280113.59.8652.4211.476400 11.7721602994.51290
12.982680133.811.2270.1912.386500 12.6825202994.51500
13.893120177.413.6114.3313.286700 13.5929603094.51800
14.793600185.718.36169.1114.186900 14.534003081.62470
15.74200191.717163.2815.17550 15.4404031802420
16.614760191.717.34185.42167950 16.345603281.22320
17.51524018816.66188.1416.918450 17.2150803383.92190
18.425680180.515.64197.5817.818650 18.11556035912110
19.326080178.915.3209.5318.728850 19.0259603694.52030
20.236440175.914.96210.8119.629050 19.9263203894.52090
21.136760169.216.32220.3920.539202.7 20.8466403985.52040
22.04588013.51.710.3321.4393511.8 21.7464803901790
22.945200191.717224.8122.3493011.4 22.64516039911770
23.855400182.714.96181.9223.248950 23.5553204287.52220

regards Mark
 
the first log only looks to show just over 50% throttle?
Would expect this to be 100%... so only 1/2 throttle actual..

??
 
Bill do you happen to have saved a log for a stage 1 remap (a car without major mods) so we can compare with our logs?

Those logs are better than mine....that's all I can tell :)
 
hi Bill
any ideas on what would cause this to read so low but give the power readings, foot was fully down!

thanks Mark:unsure:
 
hi Bill
any ideas on what would cause this to read so low but give the power readings, foot was fully down!

thanks Mark:unsure:
either something wonky on your log or map itself.. thats what controls the throttle... not your foot on pedal ironically
 
thanks for the help,

i will try another log some time this week.

fly by wire!!! should be an airbus a380 not an s3.

mark
 
boost spikes past requested to 2500mbar at about 3.7krpm.
you also hit egt protection at one point and your lambda goes from .86 and 925degrees to .80-.75 and 930-935degrees. So its running hot.
 
boost spikes past requested to 2500mbar at about 3.7krpm.
you also hit egt protection at one point and your lambda goes from .86 and 925degrees to .80-.75 and 930-935degrees. So its running hot.

i see by your sig your engine build went really well Karlos lol :superman:
 
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hi gents
so do you think its safe to run?

generally i just pootle along with the odd short burst now and again.

or back to the mapper?
cheers mark
 
Nothings jumping out saying 'dangerous'
Things could be improved obviously, but it does put out some epic airflow. Have you got to the bottom of the throttle?
 
hi gents
so do you think its safe to run?

generally i just pootle along with the odd short burst now and again.

or back to the mapper?
cheers mark

Got a boost gauge? whats it peak at?
nothings screaming too lean (I would run richer personally)
but the throttle not going beyond 50% is a puzzle..
back to mapper whoever it is and ask them