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    Which silicone hoses to go for? Brands/makes/places to buy

    Hi people,

    Basically I'm looking for a silicone boost hose in blue as my current one looks slightly split

    The silicone pipe in question is the one that attaches the turbo to the charge pipe I believe. I would naturally go with the Forge example- however after emailing them and asking them if they offer other colours, they confirmed that they can only offer the colour in terracotta due to the materials it's made off.

    Forge Silicone Boost Hose 1.8T 210/225 - S3 (8L) - Audi - Shop By Car

    Now if this was a cold silicone hose I wouldn't be to fussed on what to replace it with - however as this hose gets very hot and has a lot of pressure going through it; I want to make sure I don't need to replace it in the near future.

    So I was wondering if anyone has any experience with these two -

    £39.99 + delivery

    BAM AMK APY APX SILICONE TURBO OUTLET PIPE CreationsMotorsport

    £66 (not sure about delivery) THS 101.4

    SFS Performance - Silicone Hoses

    Main reason why I'm asking this is due to the reply I got from Forge, as they said that that a company who can offer other colours for a replacement, will probably not last very long! So hasn't given me huge hope in other brands now...although CMS has confirmed they offer a lifetime guarantee with the part

    What would you recommend or go with?
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    I've just recently fitted more or less the full car kit from SFS, very good quality and give good discounts too

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    i have a cms one in blue, fit wasnt perfect but has been on the car for 9 months or so now and no signs of any wear
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    does the colour really matter when its wrapped in a heat blanket?

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    Cheers for the reply guys- good to hear positive reviews on both of the alternative products.

    Well my hose wasn't wrapped in the first place with a heat blanket...and on my standard K04 I don't think it's necessary- the hose has never been replaced....so I expect its split due to wear and tear.
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    Forge one is made of a special silicone compound (forget the name) for the heat, but i doubt Creations will be the same,
    if you use creations i would deff wrap it...IMO

    Anybody using a relentless mani and going for a standard type hose compound would expect to burn through very quickly unless heat protection is at max

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post
    Forge one is made of a special silicone compound (forget the name) for the heat, but i doubt Creations will be the same,
    if you use creations i would deff wrap it...IMO

    Anybody using a relentless mani and going for a standard type hose compound would expect to burn through very quickly unless heat protection is at max
    The Forge one is Nomex. Silicon is only good to ~200 deg C ambient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydie1 View Post
    The Forge one is Nomex. Silicon is only good to ~200 deg C ambient.
    I've emailed CMS and they came back and confirmed their product is also made from the Nomex material and they offer a life time guarantee with that part.

    Still waiting for a reply from SFS re: materials used and guarantee.
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    i have cms boost hoses from intercooler pipes, they were a lot cheaper, but they require a a lot of trimming to get a good fit.
    but hey for the 50 odd quid cheaper that they are, i dont mind trimming.
    Measure twice cut once is my only advice if you go with cms.
    good luck

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    Or you could go the Forge second for £40 -

    FORGE MOTORSPORT AUDI TT / S3 / LEON CUPRA R SILICONE TURBO HOSE FM225TH | eBay


    edit- didn't see your colour preference in post so flag my idea.
    Last edited by crispynz1; 21st June 2013 at 09:51. Reason: correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by crispynz1 View Post
    Or you could go the Forge second for £40 -

    FORGE MOTORSPORT AUDI TT / S3 / LEON CUPRA R SILICONE TURBO HOSE FM225TH | eBay


    edit- didn't see your colour preference in post so flag my idea.
    Yep....don't get me wrong; I'm not a scene whore whose into his bags and American wheels, but I would like as much as possible to match

    Seen quiet a few engine bays that look stunning and if it's not a black/red combo then they usually have a red pipe lurking in the background! lol Thought I'd eliminate going down that route now...

    SFS is probably the option I'll go for due to fitment, but only if I they can budge on the price they've quoted me through email! Works out the most expensive out of the 3 options at the moment.
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    Forge always prove popular and a very good choice in terms of quality and fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPM View Post
    Forge always prove popular and a very good choice in terms of quality and fit.

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    Completely agree with you Damian re:quality and fit.

    I just have an OCD issue with the colour of that particular hose; now that I have removed my engine cover for good and everything else in on it's way to being blue and cleaned up/replaced I want to get it right first time so I never have to replace them again.

    If DPM can provide that hose in blue from either SFS/CMS or another company then drop me a PM mate - I did look at your site but I think your products are all Forge for the silicone hoses and they don't make them in blue
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    So it looks like i caught it just in time before it totally split and caused a major leak.


    Ended up having to go for the CMS one really as they were the only company that could get it to me time, as I wasn't fitting it myself and had the car booked in today.


    Was quiet a tight fit - but was happy it was sorted. (Forge SAI planking plate in the pic that was also fitted today )
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    Hopefully mine will be like that also...but in blue
    2000 S3 APY

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    My turbo pipe is looking a little discounted and old so I have just ordered a forge item, I can't see it under the heat shielding normally anyway.
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    I've got a creation motorsports one for £40 on eBay. Has been ok since!
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    Is this hose a usual suspect for boost leaks etc as the car gets older? Mine is the standard pink one from the factory so it's 11 years old now. Is it an item that should really now be replaced as a preventative measure or is it one of those things that if it ain't broke don't fix it?

 

 

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