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    Getting back on the road

    Well the car is in my mates garage waiting on a new engine.

    Still looking good


    im going to be buying Stacey's bam engine.Any tips on putting a bam engine in replace of apy engine would be greatly appreciated .

    So hopefully the car will be on the road again sooner rather than later :-)
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    Thats great news Robert, once you get the new engine from Stacey things will move along quickly. The car lives on. x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandra View Post
    Thats great news Robert, once you get the new engine from Stacey things will move along quickly. The car lives on. x
    Yeah it lives on :-)

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    A few pics of the engine

    These are since both block and deck being machined, have since given the block a lick of black gloss engine enamel





    Couple of other random ones whilst stripping it down





    Will put it all back together next weekend then will wing its way up to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    A few pics of the engine

    These are since both block and deck being machined, have since given the block a lick of black gloss engine enamel





    Couple of other random ones whilst stripping it down





    Will put it all back together next weekend then will wing its way up to you
    Thanks man,yeah just when ever your ready as I'm away for 17 days come Monday so just at your leisure mate

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    Just wondering what wheels do you have your car?

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    Just wondering what wheels do you have your car?
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    Dose anyone know what else I will need to get to get the bam engine running in the car as it was apy befor and it had sai and no vvt but bam doesn't have sai but has vvt

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    Thought I had already covered this dude....

    Swap tensioner, remove SAI, use APY sensors etc... done

    Use new gaskets (genuine ones) for everything you remove so coolant and oil, exhaust, tensioner etc... use your cam cover (get a new gasket for this too)

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    ...is the engine built? new cam belt, water pump, cam belt tensioners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    Thought I had already covered this dude....

    Swap tensioner, remove SAI, use APY sensors etc... done

    Use new gaskets (genuine ones) for everything you remove so coolant and oil, exhaust, tensioner etc... use your cam cover (get a new gasket for this too)

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    Yeah you have mate was reading on your thread about the vvt from the link you gave me thanks again man.

    was just unsure of the sai as my mate who is going to be doing the work was asking to try get the heads up before the work starts

    i would imagine all gaskets would be same part numbers ?

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    Yeah... gaskets are the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    ...is the engine built? new cam belt, water pump, cam belt tensioners?

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    yes mate Stacey said its coming timed up

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    Will be all new bolts, seals and gaskets used but will be all same bearings and rings as bores look lovely and bearings look fine (end of the day most components are less than 2 years old and with 10k or so on them)

    I will and have replaced and rectified anything I feel needs to, or have any doubt with, hence ripping the whole thing to bits just to get the block decked
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    Managed to get the head assembled this morning

    Lots of pics as promised

    Quick parts pic



    Just took plenty of photos during the assmebly



    Changing exhaust camshaft seal



    Inlet cam seal



    Timing marked up with a paint pen as makes life easier



    Lifters in and lubed up for exhaust cam



    Head all assembled, will chuck more lube on once all bolted to the block



    If this afternoon goes ok will get started in the block
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    Looking good dude :-) thanks for the pictures

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    Got some more done today

    Gave the block another clean in the wash tank and gave all the oil galleries a good blowing out as the block was cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaner prior to machining



    Crank bolted in



    Pistons and rods going in







    Made new TDC marks (lightly scribed with marker to highlight) for if you shall ever want it and prefer having it there myself







    Just reallised that i haven't got a spare set of plastic cam covers so will have to transfer yours if ok once recieved the engine? The cam cover is just an old one had knocking about and if your running push down coilpacks then will have to just switch it over to your one

    I also presumed you wanted a sump with an oil level sensor?

    If any different just let me know mate
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    Cheers guys am hoping Rob enjoys the engine as much as I have over the 4 years of owning it

    Its definately getting easier now working on these 1.8t's as have stripped 6 and assembled 4 of these engines now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Got some more done today

    Gave the block another clean in the wash tank and gave all the oil galleries a good blowing out as the block was cleaned in an ultrasonic cleaner prior to machining



    Crank bolted in



    Pistons and rods going in







    Made new TDC marks (lightly scribed with marker to highlight) for if you shall ever want it and prefer having it there myself







    Just reallised that i haven't got a spare set of plastic cam covers so will have to transfer yours if ok once recieved the engine? The cam cover is just an old one had knocking about and if your running push down coilpacks then will have to just switch it over to your one

    I also presumed you wanted a sump with an oil level sensor?

    If any different just let me know mate
    Sound mate,yeah oil level sensor is sound thanks for the pictures :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Cheers guys am hoping Rob enjoys the engine as much as I have over the 4 years of owning it

    Its definately getting easier now working on these 1.8t's as have stripped 6 and assembled 4 of these engines now lol
    i hope so to stace :-),will speak to you tomorrow mate

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    Thats cool mate if you can think of anything else then let me know

    Fitted the N/A head gasket in the end so CR should be over 9.0/1 now
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Thats cool mate if you can think of anything else then let me know

    Fitted the N/A head gasket in the end so CR should be over 9.0/1 now
    is there anything you can think of mate as I ain't to sure only thing is the apy manifold I have.

    what is the ideal compression ratio ?

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    Why did you paint the block black? Thought the common idea was to have anything but black to be able to check for any oil leaks. I know that you don't want oil leaks but it makes it easier to see if the block was silver for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goubo1 View Post
    is there anything you can think of mate as I ain't to sure only thing is the apy manifold I have.

    what is the ideal compression ratio ?
    Will repeat what was discussed in texts...

    Can either port the small port mani to largeport like superkarl is currently doing (pics in his build thread) or get a phenolic transition gasket

    The tip has only a 40mm port for the dv which is pointing towards the throttle body for a coldside relocation and the n75 port as had deleted the evap/charcoal canister and done the pvc simplification by fitting a catch can

    Found an old pic of the tip for you



    You will obviously need to transfer all your ancillery equipment across as i took it all for my new engine, just to reclarify its the long block and the turbo conversion with related stuff (tip, injectors etc) will be getting

    You should be fine to run it with the bigger tip and the engine belongs are on actuator only (with it set sensibly) as you have got a map for the main hardware but from personal experience the mtm map didnt cope well with the extra flow on mine so best to wait until you get it mapped properly for the hardware

    Also i would be checking your fuel pump condition before pushing it as wouldn't be supprised that your pump was struggling and possibly caused your engine failure (only stipulation but worth checking as don't want it happening again)

    Sorry to rabbit on a bit but thought it was worth clearing it up and trying to give you a better picture of whats needed to fit it all etc
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    Also forgot to say that compression ratio is definately better being higher within reason, unless your running a stupidly large turbo then not worth running low comp

    Most people are aiming between 9.0/9.5-1 this block should now be somewhere in the middle of that figure

    In theory you should achieve more power than what i ever achieved as i was running 8.5-1 cr
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Will repeat what was discussed in texts...

    Can either port the small port mani to largeport like superkarl is currently doing (pics in his build thread) or get a phenolic transition gasket

    The tip has only a 40mm port for the dv which is pointing towards the throttle body for a coldside relocation and the n75 port as had deleted the evap/charcoal canister and done the pvc simplification by fitting a catch can

    Found an old pic of the tip for you



    You will obviously need to transfer all your ancillery equipment across as i took it all for my new engine, just to reclarify its the long block and the turbo conversion with related stuff (tip, injectors etc) will be getting

    You should be fine to run it with the bigger tip and the engine belongs are on actuator only (with it set sensibly) as you have got a map for the main hardware but from personal experience the mtm map didnt cope well with the extra flow on mine so best to wait until you get it mapped properly for the hardware

    Also i would be checking your fuel pump condition before pushing it as wouldn't be supprised that your pump was struggling and possibly caused your engine failure (only stipulation but worth checking as don't want it happening again)

    Sorry to rabbit on a bit but thought it was worth clearing it up and trying to give you a better picture of whats needed to fit it all etc

    i will get a gasket then I think,I've been told I had to keep everything from mine as I would need all my sensors an such so should have all that.

    fuel pump Is a good shout what is the best to replace it with ? A oem pump ?

    Not a problem mate I'm grateful for any advice or pointers :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Also forgot to say that compression ratio is definately better being higher within reason, unless your running a stupidly large turbo then not worth running low comp

    Most people are aiming between 9.0/9.5-1 this block should now be somewhere in the middle of that figure

    In theory you should achieve more power than what i ever achieved as i was running 8.5-1 cr
    see when you made 335bhp was that with meth?

    as I'm planing on 3" downpipe large tip and jetex and mapped to suit.

    hopefully I prove the theory right sometime soon :-)

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    When bill mapped it meth was on there but was mapped with it or even dyno'd with it so there is also more to be had there as well
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    7Pump wise you will need to log and see if afr is leaning out and injector duty cycles are reasonable to make sure your ok on actuator

    Bill will soon be able to tell you if your pump is dying when he turns the boost up when mapping

    Personally I would replace the oem if need be and get an uprated pump inline as you are going to be chasing for more with some form of hyrid at a later date anyways
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    Right all is pretty much ready to be sent up to you mate

    Changed the cam chain tensioner over for you



    Engine pretty much sealed and has since been wrapped in black cling film (although have forgotten to put cak pos sensor back on but will sort that)



    Pretty much everything packaged bar the DP



    All the turbo lines



    Affraid I have found a hairline crack in the wastegate valve seat so will have to use yours or if you want will try and source one from vag or scrappy?



    The wastgate is perfectly usable but the little ring/valve seat just comes out and is a seperate piece

    Drop me a text or something to let me know what you want

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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Right all is pretty much ready to be sent up to you mate

    Changed the cam chain tensioner over for you



    Engine pretty much sealed and has since been wrapped in black cling film (although have forgotten to put cak pos sensor back on but will sort that)



    Pretty much everything packaged bar the DP



    All the turbo lines



    Affraid I have found a hairline crack in the wastegate valve seat so will have to use yours or if you want will try and source one from vag or scrappy?



    The wastgate is perfectly usable but the little ring/valve seat just comes out and is a seperate piece

    Drop me a text or something to let me know what you want

    Cheers
    Looking good :-),gave Stacey a call and just sorting out payment so hopefully get it fitted this weekend :-)

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    Payment sent to the email address you supplied mate :-)

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    I'm so jealous. That engine looks really nicely done.

    I bet your dying to get it in
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    Cheers Sam

    We had a few hicups last night due to paypal being a complete arse and deciding thst they want to hold the money

    After about 100 texts and couple of phone calls and a mrs with the hump that I wasn't packing boxes ready for the move everything went through

    Pleasure dealing with you Rob and hope this lives up to your expectations and more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_ View Post
    I'm so jealous. That engine looks really nicely done.

    I bet your dying to get it in
    yes mate I'm desperate to get it in :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Cheers Sam

    We had a few hicups last night due to paypal being a complete arse and deciding thst they want to hold the money

    After about 100 texts and couple of phone calls and a mrs with the hump that I wasn't packing boxes ready for the move everything went through

    Pleasure dealing with you Rob and hope this lives up to your expectations and more
    that hiccup with PayPal was crap lol had me a bag of nerves lol,

    was great dealing with you mate and can't wait to receive the engine.

 

 
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