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    Hi and a couple of Questions

    Hi everyone,

    Picked up my Audit A3 1.8T last week is really good and I have a new love in my life [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    Anyway just quickly I am gonna chip the car (not sure by whom yet) but what other components should I think of changing as well to make sure I maximise the potential of the chip ?

    Any views kindly welcome

    Thanks

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

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    Hi everyone,

    Picked up my Audit A3 1.8T last week is really good and I have a new love in my life [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    Anyway just quickly I am gonna chip the car (not sure by whom yet) but what other components should I think of changing as well to make sure I maximise the potential of the chip ?

    Any views kindly welcome

    Thanks

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    Hi and welcome to the boards [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    (Some sort of health/financial warning about continued membership of Audi-Sport.net should really follow; but I'll just say I'm even more nuts about Audis since I joined; and CERTAINLY more skint).

    I can't speak from experience; but I'd say most people with 2WD 1.8T's normally go ahead and get their chip done first; and I'd say that's a common route because the car is quite capable of handling the additional ~30bhp. I certainly think it's fair to say you wouldn't be stressing anything, or suffering a bottleneck in performance because of another component. It's only in preparation for more substantial upgrades that most people consider changing things like intercoolers / downpipes / cats etc.

    It's probably worth considering braking and suspension upgrades; because let's be honest "quick" isn't all about acceleration - on a point to point journey all the power in the world isn't any use without a nice line through corners and efficient braking on the way towards them - but whether you choose to them pre or post chip is purely personal taste...

    Regards,

    Rob .

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Thanks for the info.

    I think your right about the money just hope the credit agencies done catch up with me . . . [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    Couple more things what are drive by wire engines. Are they later model engines ?

    Lastly would 18" RS4 replicas be any different to real RS4's ?

    God this stuff is so exciting and pricey !! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif[/img]

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    On the credit agencies thing - I know what you mean - you could always try my latest tactic though: "I'm terribly sorry that neither myself nor my PA have been able to respond to any of your kind letters or telephone calls over the last three weeks - unfortunately we've both been out of the country during ongoing efforts to close a multi-million pound business deal. So, your cheque's in the post. Also, can I have a limit-increase?" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif[/img]

    Drive-By-Wire is a term sort of borrowed from Aviation... Fly-By-Wire are the generation of aircraft whose engines (and other components) are controlled by remote electronics as opposed to the old cables & hydraulics methods. It's essentially the same thing with cars; a DBW engine is one which has a system of electronics between the go-pedal and the throttle; and a non-DBW engine has a cable attached to the pedal which ultimately tugs on the throttle-body when you push...

    So, to answer you actual question... Yes, DBW engines were fitted to later models - what year is yours? The easiest way to find out for certain if yours is DBW (without having a look under the bonnet for a cable pulling at the throttle as you push the pedal) is to have a look for your three letter engine-code and post it on the forum (found on your Vehicle Data Sticker - there's one on the indside cover of your service record and one in the spare-wheel well).

    On the replica wheel front - the key difference (after price) between replicas and OEM is weight. I couldn't say for certain whether any particular replica is considerably different in weight either way compared to OEM - but if you're looking for the last ounce of performance, it's a consideration. Aside from that the finishes can be slightly different colours, or the detailing not quite identical - the main difference is that the centres on replicas are often pretty easy to spot, but on the majority they can be replaced for Audi OEM centres. All the cosmetic differences are the kind of thing that a blind man on a galloping horse would never spot though...

    Regards,

    Rob.

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Also, being pedantic, real RS4's won't fit on an 8L A3 as they've got a PCD of 112mm. RSTT's have a PCD of 100mm so will. Real RS4's are wider than RSTT's too.

    So don't go buying genuine Audi RS4's off eBay!

    In answer to your original question, the general concensus WRT engine tuning is you won't get any BHP increase by changing the induction/filter/airbox or downpipes/cats/exhaust because none of these things are restrictive until you get to the other side of 300bhp.

    The decent rolling-road tuners (e.g. AmD) will do a dyno run before chipping the car to make sure everything's performing OK as standard... I know some of the others don't (I've heard of people having their cars chipped by a bloke in a car park with a laptop!). I know which I'd rather!

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

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    Also, being pedantic, real RS4's won't fit on an 8L A3 as they've got a PCD of 112mm. RSTT's have a PCD of 100mm so will. Real RS4's are wider than RSTT's too.

    So don't go buying genuine Audi RS4's off eBay!

    In answer to your original question, the general concensus WRT engine tuning is you won't get any BHP increase by changing the induction/filter/airbox or downpipes/cats/exhaust because none of these things are restrictive until you get to the other side of 300bhp.

    The decent rolling-road tuners (e.g. AmD) will do a dyno run before chipping the car to make sure everything's performing OK as standard... I know some of the others don't (I've heard of people having their cars chipped by a bloke in a car park with a laptop!). I know which I'd rather!

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    Ha ha thanks for getting back and I know which one I would prefer too . . . . dodgy bloke all the way ! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

    On the tyre fron I figured that having the chip done might need some more grip that the standard alloys wont be able to cope with is this right ?

    As for brakes any idea what I should be looking at they make a funny noise in the morning so might need changing anyway

    Thanks everyone here is helpful cheers [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif[/img]

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    How many miles has your car done? When I got mine remapped it showed up how saggy the suspension had become after 70K miles so I replaced the springs & dampers with Eibachs & Bilsteins. Much better now.

    I'm still on standard wheels but it could be doing with more grip TBH. It's quite easy to unstick the front end, doubly so in the wet!

    As for brakes - I've got EBC grooved discs and green stuff pads which are better than the standard items but in hindsight not twice as good... and they cost nearly twice as much. If I was going to do it again I'd probably get some TT front discs & pads and TT caliper carriers - the calipers are the same so you don't even need to unhook the calipers from the flexible brake pipes. Not sure if they fit under standard 16" wheels though.

    Best have a look at your brakes (or have someone look for you) - the pads might be worn out which could make a scraping noise. If the noise goes after a while it could be something else though.

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    The car has done 50k runs like a dream though

    Thinking of getting the AmD done or the Revo. Think it boils down to logistics I think.

    Does anyone know of any specialists in London ?

    As for the brakes thanks for the advice I think I will change the rims as I want it to look a little different but thats it on the look of the car want to keep the rest of it understated yet elegant

    Cheers

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    I don't know of any remappers in London apart from Superchips agents, but Wheelbase in Hersham and Fontain in Langley are both Revo agents. Haven't used them myself 'cos revo didn't have a map for my engine at the time (non-DBW AGU). Fontain were very friendly though.

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Superchips are they any good then or should I avoid them ?

    Do they use Revo or are they completley seperate ?

    Thanks

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Superchips are another software company like Revo. There are a number of agents around London. Their power claims on their website aren't as high as Revo which is why I think you don't hear as much about them as Revo and APR for instance.

    I don't have any experience of them myself so can't really comment.

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    you can always go and get an MTM remap from www.qstuning.co.uk

    There in london...

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    The London borough of Haywards Heath?!? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

    Although as close to London as Wheelbase or Fontain I suppose!

    I might have got an MTM remap from them and got them to do the suspension on my car if they'd bothered to return my calls...

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    it's closer to london than Iver... give me a break or I'll go cry in a corner... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

    more importantly, I really like the idea of an MTM remap, but like you said bit difficult to get hold of, didn't seem interested in sorting my engine out for $$$

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Sht Revo or MTM cant decide.

    The MTM page doesnt give the tourque increase or that i can see any idea what it would be as it isnt as much as the revo in terms of BHP I think

    Any suggestions anyone ?

    Oh and has anyone ever heard of the Revo place in Lakeside (Essex) dunno if its any good ?

    http://www.bigboyztoys.co.uk/revo/

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

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    Sht Revo or MTM cant decide.



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    They would drive pretty similar to be honest, but let me decide for you...

    REVO 499 +vat
    MTM 850 +vat

    Go for the Revo and spend the change on a set of lowering springs or uprated pads and disks [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beerchug.gif[/img]

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Just to stir things up there's a place in Croydon which does APR remaps...

    Haven't had any dealings with them so again can't comment.

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    If you give kim collins a call then I'm sure he can do you a deal on the remap price.

    The MTM one delivers massive amounts of torque. Certainly throws you back in the seat!

    And bigboyztoys are well respected so you won't go wrong if you go with them...

    HTH
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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Whos Kim Collins Rich ?

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

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    http://www.qstuning.co.uk/

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Hmmmm decisions decisions

    Are the SPS functions on the Revo range good ?

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

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    Whos Kim Collins Rich ?

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    http://www.qstuning.co.uk/

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    Thats the boy!

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for all your help Im gonna go with the Revo as Fontain are gonna do it for 399 + vat do you think this is good?

    Will also ask for prices on getting the brakes upgraded how much should I be looking at for this ? And what sort of types ?

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    That's the standard Revo price for a 1.8T Sport - Revo prices are the same whoever does it. I think AmD might be slightly more expensive (unless you get it done on a group buy like I did).

    As for brakes - how long's a piece of string? If the discs are OK the cheapest thing to do is replace the pads with fast road pads - Pagid ones are fairly cheap and some people rate them, I've got EBC ones which I think are OK but other people slate. If you want more there are various big brake/caliper upgrades available - depends what sort of driving you do and your driving style really as to whether you think it's worth it. I found the thing that made the most difference to the brakes was having the fluid changed!

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Oh the original quote I got was for 499 then they said they have lowered the price to 399

    Oh well I can live with that and I dont have to travel a 1000000 miles to get it done roll on friday !!

    Well as I siad about the brakes get a slight grating noise in the morning when it is cold so not sure what that is all about think they could do with replacing anyway.

    Might just do that and get a full service done too

    In for a penny and all that

    Cheers

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    Re: Hi and a couple of Questions

    Well quick update got it done and it is sweeeet. Could really tell the diffrence and the money was well spent.

    Great service from Fontain. They will be getting the pleasure of my money very soon

    Thanks to all for your help and advice

 

 

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