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    S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Hello all,

    Well having owned an IHI'd vehicle - I cannot sleep some nights wanting that whooosh back under my right foot.

    Looking at S3's now, thought I would put the feelers out there and ask you guys what kits are avaialble.

    All I hear are good things about AMD... so do they offer any kits? I never hear anyone mention Jabba Sport, so I assume they are not too popular with the S3 boys.

    Anyway... let me know what's out there locally.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Hey m8,

    I've been looking into a turbo upgrade, From what I've read, the companies that seem to always get mentioned are AMD, JBS, MTM & Jabba. Its probably best if you get in touch with some of these companies, and see what they can offer you.
    Have a look @ this topic.

    http://www.audi-sport.net/ubbthreads...&page=0#157286

    Hope this helps.

    BD

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    an easy and relatively cheap way to do this is to get an aftermarket K04 manifold, ATP K04 Eliminator (GT28RS) and a 3" K04 downpipe. All bolt on, and then its just the map you need to get sorted.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    AMD dont fo BT kits for S3 do they?

    This leaves MTM (not IHI) or Jabba (IHI) or lastly JBS (GT I think)

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    All stage 4 or above are new turbos

    http://www.amdtechnik.com/products.v...m?variantid=27

    And they'll help you with whatever you want if you have a specific turbo in mind from what I was told.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

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    an easy and relatively cheap way to do this is to get an aftermarket K04 manifold, ATP K04 Eliminator (GT28RS) and a 3" K04 downpipe. All bolt on, and then its just the map you need to get sorted.


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    Can I ask, the aftermarket manifold mentioned, is this the one Jabba sell or Turbo Dynamics? Also how does the IHI turbo compare to the GT one? am I correct in thinking the GT one creates more lag

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

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    All stage 4 or above are new turbos

    http://www.amdtechnik.com/products.v...m?variantid=27

    And they'll help you with whatever you want if you have a specific turbo in mind from what I was told.

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    Hows about stage 6?, got 32'500 spare LOL [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img] , oh, and its + VAT [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img][img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img][img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

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    an easy and relatively cheap way to do this is to get an aftermarket K04 manifold, ATP K04 Eliminator (GT28RS) and a 3" K04 downpipe. All bolt on, and then its just the map you need to get sorted.


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    Rich, Can I ask, the aftermarket manifold you mention, is this the one Jabba sell or Turbo Dynamics? Also how does the IHI turbo compare to the GT one? am I correct in thinking the GT one creates more lag

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    I did not have a specific one in mind. There are, however, enough US companies that produce them for the K04 so will be standard fitment. Finding a strong one may not be as easy though.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    OK thanks,
    wouldn't there be an issue with the manifold being for a left hand drive car?

    Sorry, don't mean to hijack the topic

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    OK thanks,
    wouldn't there be an issue with the manifold being for a left hand drive car?

    Sorry, don't mean to hijack the topic

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    Nope. The manifolds that are available are designed for the standard turbo, and standard downpipe....just a free-flowing replacement!

    Rich

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    32K, Jojo? what does that give me, I can claim the VAT back so it would be really cheap for me! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

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    32K, Jojo? what does that give me, I can claim the VAT back so it would be really cheap for me! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif[/img]

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    From AmD site:

    AMD 1.8 T 210 BHP STAGE 6

    SPORTEC double Injection-System 460 bhp, 550 NM Conversion for 1.8T consists of: high performance intercooler with piping, high performance radiator, oil cooler with hoses with lines and bracket, power steering radiator, Sportec high flow Turbocharger, Turbo intake with hoses, stainless-steel handcrafted exhaust manifold, engine mount bracket with silent block, airflow optimised intake manifold for double injectors, fuel rail for 8 injectors and regulated fuel pressure, big throttle body, crankshaft for 2 litre engine conversion, connecting rod bearings, 4 reinforced connecting rods, 4 pistons for 2 litre conversion, 2 sports camshafts, 1 modifies cylinder head with ported inlets, modified flywheel, sports clutch, 4 injectors, gasket kit, double injector controller, modified engine loom, air flow meter, exhaust down pipe, ECU remapping and dynotests.


    Up to + 250bhp and 185lbs/ft

    Exc. VAT - 32500.00 (Fitted)
    Inc. VAT - 38187.50 (Fitted)


    If you can get the vat back - why not? , I would personally sell the S3, and invest in a new RS4 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile_smoking.gif[/img]

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    If I won the lottery, I'd get the AmD Stage 6, just to see what it was like. I suspect they don't sell too many of them though.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

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    I did not have a specific one in mind. There are, however, enough US companies that produce them for the K04 so will be standard fitment. Finding a strong one may not be as easy though.

    Rich

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    Rich,

    Just out of interest, do you know any companies that do this?


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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Here is an example of one..

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Nice one Rich.

    Porting looks interesting.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    There are a fair few compnies that do them that i've seen before...You think i can find them!? God damn it!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    hahaha [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    Found this site...

    http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1360

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Here are some comparion pics for the Kinetic mani.













    Looks like it could do the trick!

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Great pics Rich...see, I knew you'd find stuff others would find hard to!

    Found this stainless one too...

    http://www.dnperformance.com/audivw.html

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Thats the exact ones i was looking for originally! When i stumbled across the cast one. Obviously cast is a safer option as it is less suceptable to cracking .etc. For $350 its a bloody bargain!

    So, for roughly 2600-2700 you could have all the parts necessary for a GT28RS bolt on upgrade. Fitting would be minimal, and then just the price of the mapping. Not a bad price!

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    You could actually fit it yourself and then drive it to whoever to get it mapped. JBS would be a good bet for the 28RS. 850+vat

    Rich

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Yeah probably as cheap as you could get it really.

    Found this link...http://www.richmonddubs.com/forum/vi...age=1#pid19635 ...

    Just shows the differences between a TT225 (presume S3 too) manifold and a Golf MKIV manifold, which looks similar to the one in the pics you posted Rich.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    yeah the stock manifold is the pics i posted is from a A4 1.8T. Same manifold basically as a MkIV, but a different orientation.

    Rich

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    i was thinking of the k04/k24 for my mk2 jetta at some point not quite as much overall flow as the ihi but i believe you just have to breath on the pedal to get some decent boost, certainly would be easy to get the power out, good luck

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Cheers for the links Rich & AL.

    Could someone please explain what the difference would be between the IHI and the GT28RS upgrade?

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    Cheers for the links Rich & AL.

    Could someone please explain what the difference would be between the IHI and the GT28RS upgrade?

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    Different turbos.. 2 different manufacturers. The 28RS is capable of pushing more power, but at the expense of increased lag. Depends what you are after really.

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    Thanks for all the links etc - interesting. The GT28RS does seem like quite an easy option - then step by step work on getting FMIC etc for the car. Mmmm....

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    gt28rs,one word,LAG
    might aswell go for a gt28r,should produce 310-320bhp.

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    IHI vs GT28R - how does the lag/top end compare?

    Rich - you know anyone who has done the basic setup you suggest - getting an upgraded manifold with the GT28? What were the results?

    A "casual" un-stressed 300BHP would be a nice starting point.

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    *bump*

    Rich - you aware of anyone who has done this then? Sounds like an easy way to go... =P

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    This ebay store may be of interest to you ZeroK66, just found it.

    http://stores.ebay.com/Audspeed-Impo...toreviewQQtZkm

    Seems to be selling GT28RS turbos.

    AL

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

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    *bump*

    Rich - you aware of anyone who has done this then? Sounds like an easy way to go... =P

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    No i'm not... But its not been possible until recently when ATP brought out the K04 eliminators (GT28RS with K04 mounting flange and exhaust flange)

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Which one of those manifolds are suitable for S3? Because it seems that those are all different.

    SS Autocrome



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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Out of those...The DN Performance one. I wonder if kinetic do a manifold for the TT225...

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    Ok, thanks!
    Is TT225 manifold different than S3 one?

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    No... But the kinetic one above is a K03 manifold...and the turbo sits closer to the head on the K03 mani so downpipe positioning .etc would be wrong for 225 lump cars.

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    No i'm not... But its not been possible until recently when ATP brought out the K04 eliminators (GT28RS with K04 mounting flange and exhaust flange)

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    The RS not overkill then as suggested above? A bit too laggy? What power potential does the GT28R have? Similar to the IHI or less and lag?

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    Re: S3 Turbo Kits? Apart from IHI - What is there?

    Well, GregC has a GT28RS on his A4 1.8T, and says its not too laggy... But thats relatively low boost.

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