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    Cambelt Change S3....

    ......Right, info needed please,

    Cambelt change is defo on the cards for me and 2013 so I wanted to try and work out what its gonna cost me.

    So has anyone had this done at a garage recently and is happy to post up what it cost that would be v useful. Not form the stealers though as defo cant afford their labour rates!

    I am also happy to buy the bits myself (timing kit, waterpump, tensioner) and then just get them fitted locally (not keen on doing this myself and would also like the receipt for my history and also a warranty on the work done). So can I just get the bits off ECP and is there any recommended brands and are the bits I listed and all that I need?

    If I do buy the bits how many hours should I budget for the labour charges?

    cheers

    P.s I did do a quick search but a lot of what I found was posted years ago so not sure If the prices were still current
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    Mine was done at Audi last year and was £330 inc. water pump. Took them most of the day.
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    That's a lot cheaper than I thought it would be at the dealers - I was more expecting £500+

    thanks for the info
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    No problem, prices were, coolant £15, water pump £55 Does not say price of the belt, just £180 for belt and labour. All plus VAT of course at the end.
    Silver 2002 Audi S3 225 (BAM) since March 2011.

    Mods: Badger5 2.2 TIP, Jetex filter, PCV delete, 710 DV, N249 bypass, R-Tech Stage 1 TiV Remap, Audi TT Pedals, Red Dogbone, Polybushed tie arms. All silicone boost pipes, Michelin PS3s, Red V6 coil packs, MK4 flat blade conversion, retrofited cruise control.
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    Audi S3 8L BAM 225 2002 - Ming Blue : Silver Heated Leather, Armrest, RNS-E - Bose, Alloy Mirrors, 18" RSTT`s, Sunroof, Cruise, AutoDim Mirror & Usual S3 Extras.
    Mods : Badger 5 Stg 2 Custom Map, FMIC, 3" DP & 200 Cell Cat, 007P, Jetex Filter & 80mm TIP & Heatshield, Complete LED Kit, Gen VW Aero Wipers, Full Powerflex Kit, R32 RARB, AP Shocks & Springs, 15mm Front & 20mm Rear Spacers, BB Uprated Actuator,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vex182 View Post
    No problem, prices were, coolant £15, water pump £55 Does not say price of the belt, just £180 for belt and labour. All plus VAT of course at the end.
    Ah so it was £330 without VAT that seems more like it so it was closer to £500 inc VAT.

    I think I may go the route of getting the bits myself and then just paying for labour.
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    I went to a specialist and paid £280 a couple of years ago, you can get the full contitech kit from ECP for a decent price and if you know someone local and good they should be able to get it all done for less than £300 for the lot.

    Make sure you do the waterpump at the same time.

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    Yup the link I posted above is the contitech kit form ECP but it does not include the waterpump this is sold seperatly which I also linked to. Belt kit is £148 and the pump is either £30 or £50 (they have 2 listed)

    So the second link I found on the PSI website for the ECS tuning kit sounds quite good as it includes all bits needed for £180 or a racing version for £220
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    First quote back form JKM in Portsmouth :

    £349inc VAT for complete job using genuine VW bits

    £198inc VAT for just the labour

    So not too bad really will see if I get any other quotes from some of the local places I have emailed
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    Mods : Badger 5 Stg 2 Custom Map, FMIC, 3" DP & 200 Cell Cat, 007P, Jetex Filter & 80mm TIP & Heatshield, Complete LED Kit, Gen VW Aero Wipers, Full Powerflex Kit, R32 RARB, AP Shocks & Springs, 15mm Front & 20mm Rear Spacers, BB Uprated Actuator,
    N249 Delete & Catch Can, AP TVR 4Pot Brakes & DS2500`s, Sachs Carbon/Kevlar Clutch

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    I will tell you the tomorrow, mine in getting MOT and the belt changed won't get it back till tomorrow so will post up the costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plimpix View Post
    I will tell you the tomorrow, mine in getting MOT and the belt changed won't get it back till tomorrow so will post up the costs.
    Sounds good the more info the better
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    I've got a belt kit and water pump ready to be fitted Wednesday, £111 from GSF with discount of around 15% so not a bad price as it's the full contitech kit and the better quality pump. Also add £10 for G12++

    Fitting is £140 so a pretty good price.

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    i paid £320 all in from my local VAG specialist a few months ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by vrbob View Post
    Ah so it was £330 without VAT that seems more like it so it was closer to £500 inc VAT.

    I think I may go the route of getting the bits myself and then just paying for labour.
    It works out to £330 with vat. The other prices I listed were without vat.
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    i paid 370 at my local VW Audi specialist a few months back
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    Cheers all for the pricing info,

    Does anyone have any direct experience of the ECS stuff I linked to earlier in the thread or should I stick with contitech etc?
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    Mods : Badger 5 Stg 2 Custom Map, FMIC, 3" DP & 200 Cell Cat, 007P, Jetex Filter & 80mm TIP & Heatshield, Complete LED Kit, Gen VW Aero Wipers, Full Powerflex Kit, R32 RARB, AP Shocks & Springs, 15mm Front & 20mm Rear Spacers, BB Uprated Actuator,
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    I think i paid £330 or £350 @ Jabbasport which included a metal impellered water pump, this was a few years back but it did include VAT.
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    Found this standard belt kit by ECS (belt is a contitech) Audi TT MKI Quattro 225HP > Search > Timing Belt Kit > ES#1052 ECS Tuning Timing Belt Kit - Standard - 06B198479 which awesome GTI will sell for £98.50 and they also sell a waterpump for £25 so that's a pretty good price for all the kit needed including delivery.

    The only cheaper place I can find similar bits is on Ebay as a contitech belt and INA tensioner can be had for £50.36 and a waterpump can be had for £22.25 (there are a few waterpumps available on ebay) here are the links :
    Z737 Cambelt Kit AUDI S3 Timing belt kit 1.8 10/2001 05/2003 | eBay
    AUDI A3 A4 S3 TT 1.8 20 V 1.8 T WATER PUMP 96-08 ***FAST DELIVERY*** | eBay
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    Mods : Badger 5 Stg 2 Custom Map, FMIC, 3" DP & 200 Cell Cat, 007P, Jetex Filter & 80mm TIP & Heatshield, Complete LED Kit, Gen VW Aero Wipers, Full Powerflex Kit, R32 RARB, AP Shocks & Springs, 15mm Front & 20mm Rear Spacers, BB Uprated Actuator,
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    i would have thought this would another of your wild diy jobs rob! hahaha I would have come along if only for ur um's tea and biscuits!!
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    Does the s3 use the hydraulic tensioner like the AGU engines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JtotheD View Post
    i would have thought this would another of your wild diy jobs rob! hahaha I would have come along if only for ur um's tea and biscuits!!
    Lol I was tempted to give it a whirl myself but timing scares me a little, Plus I kinda want a proper receipt for this for my service history. Am sure we will find some other jobs we can tackle and then your more than welcome to come and tinker whilst getting fed with tea n biccies
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    N249 Delete & Catch Can, AP TVR 4Pot Brakes & DS2500`s, Sachs Carbon/Kevlar Clutch

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    sounds good mate although working on aircraft is proving fun too! but yeah decided to keep my car now. at least for the foreseeable future anyway...
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    sounds good mate ! working on aircraft is proving fun too.. well. and frustrating! anyway decided to keep my car now at least for the foreseeable future...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JtotheD View Post
    sounds good mate ! working on aircraft is proving fun too.. well. and frustrating! anyway decided to keep my car now at least for the foreseeable future...!
    Good to hear your expanding your mechanical knowledge and that the car is staying for a bit longer too
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    Mods : Badger 5 Stg 2 Custom Map, FMIC, 3" DP & 200 Cell Cat, 007P, Jetex Filter & 80mm TIP & Heatshield, Complete LED Kit, Gen VW Aero Wipers, Full Powerflex Kit, R32 RARB, AP Shocks & Springs, 15mm Front & 20mm Rear Spacers, BB Uprated Actuator,
    N249 Delete & Catch Can, AP TVR 4Pot Brakes & DS2500`s, Sachs Carbon/Kevlar Clutch

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    My cam seals have recently gone (thanks to Ben for identifying!) so it might be worth getting that done at the same time
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    INA have a pretty good reputation as far as I'm aware and have used bits from them before and the parts have aways been of a really good quality. Although I'd be weary of buying from Ebay as you can't judge the quality and whether there genuine not fakes.

    Gfs sell INA belt kits I'm pretty sure there the 'premium' kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erf View Post
    My cam seals have recently gone (thanks to Ben for identifying!) so it might be worth getting that done at the same time
    Hmmm Interesting,

    So is this readily accessible when doing the cambelt then? Also whats needed for the change is just some new seals and if so what seals and how much please?
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    Mods : Badger 5 Stg 2 Custom Map, FMIC, 3" DP & 200 Cell Cat, 007P, Jetex Filter & 80mm TIP & Heatshield, Complete LED Kit, Gen VW Aero Wipers, Full Powerflex Kit, R32 RARB, AP Shocks & Springs, 15mm Front & 20mm Rear Spacers, BB Uprated Actuator,
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    Quote Originally Posted by vrbob View Post
    Good to hear your expanding your mechanical knowledge and that the car is staying for a bit longer too
    cheers mate, it's all good fun. I see by ur sig uve been busy catching up.. need to meet up and catch up soon and we can compare c\atch can set ups!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JtotheD View Post
    cheers mate, it's all good fun. I see by ur sig uve been busy catching up.. need to meet up and catch up soon and we can compare c\atch can set ups!
    yup am all stage 2`d now und yeah fitted a few bits n bobs like the catch can too. just gotta find a nice set of brakes and all should be good. still got my polybush top mounts to fit too.

    Defo meet up and compare setups again somewhen perhaps another mini beaulieu meet could be on the cards
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    Mods : Badger 5 Stg 2 Custom Map, FMIC, 3" DP & 200 Cell Cat, 007P, Jetex Filter & 80mm TIP & Heatshield, Complete LED Kit, Gen VW Aero Wipers, Full Powerflex Kit, R32 RARB, AP Shocks & Springs, 15mm Front & 20mm Rear Spacers, BB Uprated Actuator,
    N249 Delete & Catch Can, AP TVR 4Pot Brakes & DS2500`s, Sachs Carbon/Kevlar Clutch

 

 

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