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    Should a drummer avoid lowering and coilovers?

    Hi guys.

    Strange question I know, but I'm considering putting a set of the budget JOM coilovers on my A3.

    The problem is, being a drummer I regularly have to transport my drum kit to gigs/rehearsal, often with a P.A system and a few other heavy bit and bobs.

    Just wondering whether the car would end up grounding out with the additional weight. I wouldn't go too crazy with the lowering, maybe 30mm.

    Should I avoid coilovers and lowering all together?

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    Have you tried the drummers section......bud um tishhhhh ......




    I would have thought it would be ok mate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post
    Have you tried the drummers section......bud um tishhhhh ......




    I would have thought it would be ok mate...
    Haha, cheers Dave.

    Yeah I've tried the drummers section... they said "why the f**k are you asking stupid questions about cars in the drummers section?! Try Audi-Sport.net!"

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    should be ok mate as long as you dont go dropping it silly amounts. mine survives having crap flung in the boot quite ofter ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedout View Post
    should be ok mate as long as you dont go dropping it silly amounts. mine survives having crap flung in the boot quite ofter ok.
    Sweet, cheers dude.

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    Is it wrong that I read that as "Should a bummer avoid lowering and coilovers?"


    I've seen people with coil overs on have a boot full of kit, wheels and other such items.
    I assume you'd be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottB5 View Post
    "Should a bummer avoid lowering and coilovers?"
    I'll start another thread for that one! Good question though!

    Thanks for all the replies folks.

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    Don't avoid lowering, don't avoid coilovers, just avoid JOMs

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    Quote Originally Posted by N8 View Post
    Don't avoid lowering, don't avoid coilovers, just avoid JOMs
    Are they really that bad? I've heard mixed opinions on them...

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    I have joms and they failed in a few weeks. The cheap hottuning ones i have on the scirocco are a 1000 times better quality.
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    My take on lowered suspension is they are usually of a higher spring rate, so better for carry weight. Not an Audi I know, but my Passat on lowered suspension carries 200kgs+ of stock twice a week for the last 10 years, it was so floaty with standard suspension, but lowering it was the best thing I did to it, not to mention the benefit of having a lowered loading lip of the rear bumper!

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    Had an A3 1.8t as a runaround recently which was as low as you can go without grounding out everywhere.. no probs with 2 sets of tyred up wheels in the back, whats more of an issue is having wheels on the car with a suitable offset to avoid outside edge rubbing .. can just about be put up with on the rear but on the front its asking to go into a spin on a bumpy high-speed corner when the bodywork catches the tyre (been there, done that, shat meself)

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    Wow, you're all idiots. (apart from Joe)

    Sorry, but it had to be said.

    They're all the same units, JOM, Jamex, HotTuning, Performance 2000 etc. All exactly the same, made in the same place, by the same people; just rebranded and boxed.

    I've had my JOM's on for over two years and 30,000 miles; still perfect. Prawn had Jamex on his daily for 30K+ wound down to the max and they have been fine. I've got 10's of friends all with Jamex/JOM coilovers and they're all perfect.

    The ride is smooth when not lowered too far, I would suggest coupling them with Polo top mounts to gain an extra 10mm spring rate and retain the same height. DON'T slam the arse off them as most people do (running them way out of their designed and advertised limit) and they'll be spot on. If they do break just sent them back; in my experience you've got just as much chance of having a duff Weitec as yuo have JOM/Jamex etc.

    In the mean time I've also had Weitecs on another A3, and they were admitedly much better damped when on track. But actually on the road the JOM's are far more comfortable and there wasn't a noticable difference really. I first fitted these Jamex coilovers yearrrrs ago (the how to in the FAQ was written by me) and they've been perfect.

    With reference loading them up with weight and all that rubbish; when I was renovating my house I needed to buy 26 bags of cement and roughly 150 bricks. I got the cement in the car in one hit, and the bricks all in the car in one hit. Far more weight than a drum kit.



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    My advice if you want to take it is to go and buy the cheapest set of coilovers you can, or phone Les at Vee Dub Machine who is a mate of mine and he'll do you an epic price. Tell him Jardo with the BMW who bought a load of coilovers off him earlier in the year sent you and he'll do you a deal. (veedubmachine, Volkswagen Audi Seat Skoda Porsche spares and accessories 01209 314206)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16Klappe View Post

    With reference loading them up with weight and all that rubbish; when I was renovating my house I needed to buy 26 bags of cement and roughly 150 bricks. I got the cement in the car in one hit, and the bricks all in the car in one hit. Far more weight than a drum kit.
    I would have a guess and say 26 bags of cement weighing approx 20kgs each and a driver (and passenger if present) would take you over the manufacturer's recommended load rating for an A3 8L

    That seems pretty irresponsible to me, idiotic even ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16Klappe View Post
    With reference loading them up with weight and all that rubbish; when I was renovating my house I needed to buy 26 bags of cement and roughly 150 bricks. I got the cement in the car in one hit, and the bricks all in the car in one hit. Far more weight than a drum kit.
    I assume that my car will handle much better with that kind of weight in it? That drops it enough, yeah? Should I even bother with coilovers? Maybe just 200Kg of cement and a peco back box? What is the maximum BHP I could achieve from this set up? I was hoping for around 300bhp as I didn't want to be too optimistic. How much more power do coilovers provide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyteryda View Post
    I would have a guess and say 26 bags of cement weighing approx 20kgs each and a driver (and passenger if present) would take you over the manufacturer's recommended load rating for an A3 8L

    That seems pretty irresponsible to me, idiotic even ..
    Worse things have happened dude. Chill out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16Klappe View Post
    My advice if you want to take it is to go and buy the cheapest set of coilovers you can, or phone Les at Vee Dub Machine who is a mate of mine and he'll do you an epic price. Tell him Jardo with the BMW who bought a load of coilovers off him earlier in the year sent you and he'll do you a deal. (veedubmachine, Volkswagen Audi Seat Skoda Porsche spares and accessories 01209 314206)
    16Klappe, That would be amazing. Thank you very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purn View Post
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    If you couple the coilovers with a Forge sticker it'll give you a good 10bhp more on average, if you re-do any of the engine bay piping and vac hoses make sure you do them in blue because that's the most powerful colour too. Give my mate Les a ring, he does Jamex/JOM coilovers and because he's a pretty small company he knocks them out at quite a low price because he's trying to buy business. Personally I have purchased 6 coilovers off him so far this year, two for my own cars and 4 for friends. I've fitted all of them and not had a problem yet. Good luck!


    Nyteryda, having LOADS of weight in the back of a car is pretty idiotic I have to say. But it needed to be done, the cement just about took it up to the weight of a standard S3 though and given that I have S3 brakes it probably wasn't that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyteryda View Post
    I would have a guess and say 26 bags of cement weighing approx 20kgs each and a driver (and passenger if present) would take you over the manufacturer's recommended load rating for an A3 8L

    That seems pretty irresponsible to me, idiotic even ..
    This reminds me of carrying 20 sacks of rice @20kgs each in my Passat Estate, due to a rice shortage! My rear suspension was on it's bumpstops! So how an A3 could manage 26 bags of cement amazes me. I did my back in for 2 weeks carrying that lot all by myself.



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    20 bags of rice? In a bratwurst burner?!?

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    I cant see a 5 peice drum kit weighing much more than your average passenger, depends how many stands and cymbals your carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mk1chopper View Post
    I cant see a 5 peice drum kit weighing much more than your average passenger, depends how many stands and cymbals your carrying.
    My hardware case is HEAVY! And when you've got a PA in there as well it all adds up dude. The two Peavy2600 amps we use take 3 people to lift. They're insanely heavy(and loud!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    This reminds me of carrying 20 sacks of rice @20kgs each in my Passat Estate, due to a rice shortage! My rear suspension was on it's bumpstops! So how an A3 could manage 26 bags of cement amazes me. I did my back in for 2 weeks carrying that lot all by myself.
    Haha, rice shortage.

    Is that the Birmingham equivalent of the Irish Potato Famine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purn View Post
    My hardware case is HEAVY! And when you've got a PA in there as well it all adds up dude. The two Peavy2600 amps we use take 3 people to lift. They're insanely heavy(and loud!).
    Any vids of you in action?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post
    Any vids of you in action?....
    No vids as of yet mate, but you can check out my originals band "Atoms." here. The tracks are from out debut E.P

    Atoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post
    Any vids of you in action?....
    Found one! Terrible quality though, but you get the idea!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 16Klappe View Post
    Haha, rice shortage.

    Is that the Birmingham equivalent of the Irish Potato Famine?
    The price of rice double one season due to a shortage.



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