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    Strut Braces & 4motions

    I have a Bora 4motion with the following handling upgrades: -

    H&R V1 Twin Tube Coilovers
    S3 Cast Wishbones
    Every bush replaced with Superpro/Powerflex bushes
    R32 Front ARB
    Neuspeed Rear ARB
    1x Pair of Forge Adjustable Tie Arms (Upper)

    I think the car handles very well, it sits very flat round corners and is also surprisingly comfortable considering the modifications.

    I know the S3 8L comes with a lower strut brace as standard but the Bora 4motion does not.

    Would front (upper/lower) or rear strut braces contribute anything to this setup? The car is used as a daily but I would like to attend the odd track day when I get the time.

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    The upper strut would help but the lower one doesn't really do anything, yes you could make a lower strut brace which i did and couldn't really tell but as soon as i fitted some solid sub frame bushes then you could feel the front end stiffen up and make the steering a little sharper

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    Anyone looked at the ultra racing braces:

    Ultra Racing | at a price you can afford

    ivr been looking at the lower front and rear braces! Any thoughs guys?
    Driving the most secretive S3 on ASN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani_B19 View Post
    Anyone looked at the ultra racing braces:

    Ultra Racing | at a price you can afford

    ivr been looking at the lower front and rear braces! Any thoughs guys?

    Not worth it
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    Why you say that mate?
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    Your sub frame is like a strut brace, just fit the solid mounts in the link above and all will be good

    A strut brace is meant to brace the struts at the top, there is now way you can fit one to the rear of the S3
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    I fitted s3 front upper and lower to my a3 quattro,it did seem a bit tighter and due to being vag parts they were quite cheap too.
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    as andrew said, those braces dont brace anything lol.
    i think on a modern car there is V little to be had by strut braces, our cars are well built enough not to have masses of flex

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    Solid subframe bushes for the win

    The standard S3 lower brace can be bent by hand so if i can do that then its not much good under the car
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    Oki doki, ive already got the solid frame bushes fitted, love them, fitted them a while ago.
    Driving the most secretive S3 on ASN

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    So...

    Solid subframe bushes = Yes
    Strut braces = money that could be spent on solid subframe bushes (although upper front might be worthwhile)

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    upper is worth it
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    Adjustable FPR from 1-5 bar, 2 sets of Unused ARP 3/8 2000 rod bolts, relentless 200 cell cat pipe, Std AGU Crankshaft. Ported & Reconditioned Cylinder head service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew@A.L.D View Post
    Solid subframe bushes for the win

    The standard S3 lower brace can be bent by hand so if i can do that then its not much good under the car
    Depends on what plane it's meant to act as a brace: tension or compression? if it's tension you could theoretically use a steel cable which would be very flexible in every way except under tension.

    But is was taken off later models/not put on all models and is extra weight. Who know's whether it's worth it.

    S3 AMK 2002. Only 203 BHP left in my poor little engine, currently searching for the 7 missing horses.
    Mods: Powerflex bushes at the front and rear, 710P DV, ambient light module, Badger5 V3 TIP, S2000 Filter.

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    have you seen where the lower brace is?
    RIP S3dave/David Marshall stickers now available
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    Sparco Torino 2 sport seats, None resonated Milltek exhaust,
    Adjustable FPR from 1-5 bar, 2 sets of Unused ARP 3/8 2000 rod bolts, relentless 200 cell cat pipe, Std AGU Crankshaft. Ported & Reconditioned Cylinder head service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew@A.L.D View Post
    have you seen where the lower brace is?
    Bottom of the subframe I think.

    S3 AMK 2002. Only 203 BHP left in my poor little engine, currently searching for the 7 missing horses.
    Mods: Powerflex bushes at the front and rear, 710P DV, ambient light module, Badger5 V3 TIP, S2000 Filter.

 

 

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