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    Quote Originally Posted by vfr800 View Post
    The VCDS knowledge base pages say that the coding options are well documented in the factory repair manual, there must be someone who has access to some proper VAG documentation and can help.

    Audi A3 (8L) Brake Electronics (MK20) - Ross-Tech Wiki
    I'm working on that

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    No joy.

    Tried all the codes posted earlier but whenever I click "Do-It!", it just goes back to the main ABS block screen and the soft code remains at 00214.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan87 View Post
    I'm working on that
    Well the chap I know who works at VW had a look around the VW systems today to try and find any information about this but has hit a brick wall.

    In the mean time I've contacted Ross Tech and also Niki from R-Tech to see if they have any ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vfr800 View Post
    13 504 = 0b011010011000000 BORA 4M ABS/EDS
    13 404 = 0b011010001011100 BORA 4M ABS/EDS/ASR
    18 945 = 0b100101000000001 BORA 4M ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP
    18 443 = 0b100100000001011 SHARAN 7M AWD
    18 952 = 0b100101000001000 SHARAN 7M FWD
    18 448 = 0b100100000010000 S3
    18 446 = 0b100100000001110 TT
    For completeness here's 00214

    00 214 = 0b000000011010110

    Who know's what all this cr*p means.

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    Thanks Liam.

    It seems the MK60 guys can subtract 2048 (ESP bit) from their original codes to remove just ESP.

    My number seems so bloomin low to start with subtracting anything doesn't really seem like an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan87 View Post
    Thanks Liam.

    It seems the MK60 guys can subtract 2048 (ESP bit) from their original codes to remove just ESP.

    My number seems so bloomin low to start with subtracting anything doesn't really seem like an option.
    mine is mk20 and the 2048 code works just don't understand why yours is so low.
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    Halfway down the page there are some options.

    ASR/ESP module coding with VDS-pro - Page 2 - TDIClub Forums

    I've quoted the content in case that page goes offline in the future.

    Controller coding
    STG 03 (brake electronics) select
    STG coding - > function 07


    03604 ABS (1J0907379 D/G - MKB: AHW/AKQ/APE/AGP/AXP)

    03504 ABS (1J0907379 P - MKB: AHW/AKQ/APE7AGP/AXP)

    03504 ABS (MKB: AEH/AKL/APF/AGN/AGU/AQA/ARZ/APK/AQY/AGZ/ATN/AUS)

    03304 ABS (MKB: AQM/AGR/ALH/AHF/ASV/AJM/ATD/AUY/ARL)

    03304 ABS (MKB: Mexico ALH/AHF)

    03604 ABS/EDS (1J0907379 E/H - MKB: AHW/AKQ/APE/AGP/AXP)

    03504 ABS/EDS (1J0907379 Q - MKB: AHW/AKQ/APE/AGP/AXP)

    13504 ABS/EDS (MKB: AEH/AKL/APF/AGN/AGU/AQA/ARZ/APK/AQY/AGZ/AQP/ATN/AUS/AUE)

    03304 ABS/EDS (MKB: AQM)

    13304 ABS/EDS (MKB: AGR/ALH/AHF/ASV/AJM/ATD/AUY/ARL)

    13504 ABS/EDS (MKB: Mexico ALH/AHF)

    13504 ABS/EDS (Haldex - 1J0907379 L/AA/AG - MKB:AGN/AGZ/AQP/AGR/AJM/ARL/AUE/ATD/AUY)

    13404 ABS/EDS/ASR (1J0907379 R/J/AF -MKB:AGN/AGU/AQA/ARZ/AQP/AGR/ALH/AHF/ASV/AJM/ARL/AUE/AUY)

    00214 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP (Haldex)

    00241 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP (electrical gas manipulation/1J0907379)

    00209 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP (mechanical. Gas manipulation/1J0907379)

    10753 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP (1C0907379 - MKB: AHW/AKQ/APE/AGN/AXP)

    10241 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP (1C0907379 - MKB: AEH/AKL/APF/ATN/AUS/AWH)

    18945 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP (1C0907379 - MKB: AGU/AQA/ARZ/AQP/AGP/AQM/AGR/ALH/AHF/ASV/AJM/ARL/AUE/ATD/AUY)

    18433 ABS/EDS/ASR/ESP (1C0907379 - MKB: APK/AQY/AGZ)

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    Cheers Liam, I stumbled across that as well.

    Here is the first reply I've had from Ross Tech.

    "Based on the component field of this Mk20 ABS controller it appears to be a module specific to ESP and it is extremely unlikely that any conventional scan tool operation (coding or adaptation) modifications are going to have the desired results. Please send the complete Auto-Scan from this vehicle with the VIN for review."

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    Update from Ross Tech

    "Although it may not be correct, the PR codes per VIN and online parts management services of PartsLink24 show a MK60 ESP (1AT) ABS configuration for this vehicle. Was that Mk20 ABS module original equipment?

    In regards to the coding possibilities you may have more luck using repair information for the M.Y. 2000 Audi 8L1 (I used AMK/DQB details). That particular vehicle model appears to use several Mk20 and Mk60 variants with coding charts.

    In conclusion this module is ESP specific, and although I suspect it may not be the correct one, it cannot be modified using VCDS to remove ESP functions."


    I've asked for the repair information for the M.Y. 2000 Audi 8L1 that she mentions.

    What would happen if I fitted a Mk60 controller to my car?

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    MK20 ABS Controller - Soft Coding

    I disabled my ESP today. I'll let you know how it is on track tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    I disabled my ESP today. I'll let you know how it is on track tomorrow.
    How did you get on Westy?

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    MK20 ABS Controller - Soft Coding

    Quote Originally Posted by Yohan87 View Post
    How did you get on Westy?
    Works really well. Tam also did back to back tests comparing it with using the button and it does seem to only disable the ESP and nothing else. Reesy said he thought his car was really lively and thought it must disable more then just esp. I'm just glad I don't have to hit the button every time I te in the car
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Works really well. Tam also did back to back tests comparing it with using the button and it does seem to only disable the ESP and nothing else. Reesy said he thought his car was really lively and thought it must disable more then just esp. I'm just glad I don't have to hit the button every time I te in the car
    That's good to hear.

    Rub it in why don't you
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    Update from Ross Tech.

    "The other modules used in Mk20 and Mk60 systems aren't usually compatible with each other but I do not have any personal experience with that particular retrofit.

    If this is for track/off road only I would personally consider experimenting with some non ESP Mk20 modules and see if they behave with the engine management system so you have normal braking. As you likely know, vehicles without the old-school proportioning valve in the rear axle need the ABS module for base/safety functions of brake fluid proportioning so you cannot simply unplug the ABS module.

    We are not able to provide repair information including for example coding charts, wiring diagrams, component location schematics or TPI/TSBs which are copyrighted material belonging to VW/Audi. The Official Factory Repair Information sources are listed here:

    Official Factory Repair Information - Ross-Tech Wiki

    Subscription based parts management information is available through PL24 and linked here with our PR code explanation:

    Production Codes (PR-Codes) can be found on the Vehicle Data Label - Ross-Tech Wiki

    It looks like I failed to note previously that you can edit the AutoScan.txt file to eliminate modules that aren't installed. This file is located in the VCDS directory when looking manually and also linked from the Auto-Scan function screen. This is briefly mentioned on the following page:

    Ross-Tech: VCDS Tour: Auto-Scan"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Works really well. Tam also did back to back tests comparing it with using the button and it does seem to only disable the ESP and nothing else. Reesy said he thought his car was really lively and thought it must disable more then just esp. I'm just glad I don't have to hit the button every time I te in the car
    Did you try the 00016 code to switch off EDL as well as the esp? Not that i too sure it that is a good thing of a bad thing.

    I tried it once but couldn't tell much of a difference
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    MK20 ABS Controller - Soft Coding

    Quote Originally Posted by rhys1210 View Post
    Did you try the 00016 code to switch off EDL as well as the esp? Not that i too sure it that is a good thing of a bad thing.

    I tried it once but couldn't tell much of a difference
    No mate I never tried it as the car is nice to drive with just the ESP off.
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    gonna try this now
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