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    VAbs S3 journey

    Bought the car earlier this as part of a mid life crisis and being sick of the depreciation in new cars. The car developed a couple of little niggles so I searched and found this site

    Firstly thank you to all who have posted build threads and offer advise - the stickies and search have been great and other than that I have not needed a lot of help - the only issue is that I have to stop looking at this site as I keep wanting to spend $$.

    So far all that has been done is what I see the norm

    Month 1 - Forge DV008, Badger 5 Tip and Clutch switch from Bill. Car going better and I am starting to get sucked in

    Month2 - New Clarion Head Unit - Wanted Bluetooth for the phone. I wired with harness and definitely sounding better but could not stop the popping and too far to get a new Sub from Andy Mac. Playing around found that the popping was coming from the BOSE sub and that if disconnected then no popping. So opened up the sub to see how it is wired found a tiny amp.

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    So Gone

    And replaced CD changer with AMP for the Sub
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    Sounds great and no popping. just need to Dynamat the factory sub box.

    Gone - replaced by 1 x 4mm hose
    More to come IMG_0384.jpg

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    VAbs S3 journey

    Best idea to stop spending money is to let your mrs have the password to login here and only ask her for it if you need to look up a solution to a problem. My car build went mental about a year ago and I've spent a small fortune, and there are much bigger, better, and more expensive builds then mine
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    Not Wrong. Initial plan was to follow Westy and just build a reliable fun daily drive - But I have had to stop following his thread.

    Then take the car to my mechanic friend who did our version of MOT and then showed my his 4WD dyno that I had never noticed hiding in the back and some of the work he has done on Golfs and this car has potential to go down a dangerous road

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    Next issue was the temp started to drop of 90c - replaced thermostat - main item to do this job was a 1/4" drive socket to get on the the bolts. Had a bigger issue releasing the radiator hose from the plastic piece to the stat. many years of being in one spot.

    At this stage sick of missing lines in the DIS screen - found a business in Melbourne that would replace the old one for me. So waited till I had a trip and did not need the car - posted the instrument cluster Monday and had it back on Wednesday

    Then the dreaded rough idle started. Identified the famous "y" piece as having a crack in it due to being "touched" when the B5 Tip was added. Made a temporary bit up with a t piece till I could replace the PCV system

    so removed all this - I find it hard to believe that this mess of hoses has been effectively replaced by 1 hose....



    Used the IE billet adapter for the crank case and rocker cover breathers



    As these fittings have a 10an outlet . So emailing Saikou Michi decided to use the catch can as a t piece and had a can made with 2 x 10an inlets and 1 19mm outlet. The thoughts where less connections so less leaks



    Can in its temporary location - need to make a bracket and I could not get it to fit behind the TIP .




    Results - fantastic. car idles smoothly, pulls harder and the brakes seem to even work a little better.

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    Dump Pipe next

    Yes going down the slippery slope and looking at DPs before I get it tuned now it is running well

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    Decided to go with the Relentless DP - emailed direct as it did not seem right to have it go half way around the world - Should be on its way soon so will post pictures once it is here.

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    lol i know how you feel, my A3 was almost free, yet the engines out, its having a KO4 and an engine overhaul i really didnt mean for that to happen lol

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    Woke last night to the alarm going off for no reason. Looks likes it needs to come out and the Batteries changed. I have scheduled this for a further fix but it looks like some late night fun tonight.

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    Relentless DP ordered

    Have been communicating with relentless over last week and have ordered a relentless DP. Hopefully the journey to OZ will be a swift. Looking forward to the change it will make as every thing else that I have done as been positive for the car.

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    Evening of fail looking for the alarm horn. Followed Westy's threads and all was going too well, removed boot lining, removed sub, removed central locking unit - now the issue No alarm horn just a stop light bulb. So I set the alarm off and following the noise the alarm appears to be under the scuttle panel between the wipers. A bit of research and it appears a few others have the alarm here as well. Need a puller to get the wipers off so it will have to wait till I can organise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAB View Post
    Evening of fail looking for the alarm horn. Followed Westy's threads and all was going too well, removed boot lining, removed sub, removed central locking unit - now the issue No alarm horn just a stop light bulb. So I set the alarm off and following the noise the alarm appears to be under the scuttle panel between the wipers. A bit of research and it appears a few others have the alarm here as well. Need a puller to get the wipers off so it will have to wait till I can organise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post


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    I missed that sign 3 months after owning my s3

    I think I've spent a hell of a lot more than I planned

    that sign is so true
    Was 531bhp 8L S3 thats going to break the 600+ bhp Club then break something else. Lets see what this OD HTAGT3582r can do
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    Adjustable FPR from 1-5 bar, 2 sets of Unused ARP 3/8 2000 rod bolts
    , relentless 200 cell cat pipe, Std AGU Crankshaft. Ported & Reconditioned Cylinder head service.

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    Yes gone straight past that sign - but the car is definitely going better.

    3" DP on the way and car booked in next week to hit the rollers for its first map

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    Relentless DP installed

    AS with a lot of others the relentless DP with sports cat is on the car. Dealt directly with Relentless and DP was ordered on a Thursday and arrived in Australia on Tuesday. Initial impressions where that well made and welding looked good



    As looking at mappping car for the first time had my mapper install the DP. he initially thought 2 -3 hours and told me took just a little over this. They cut the old pipe and dropped the subframe

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    Old vs new cats





    Took Tuffty's advise and did not use the supplied copper gaskets and used OEM Gaskets for the Turbo to DP and High temp sealant for the DP to cat join. Amazingly Audi Australia had the gaskets and they only cost A$19

    DP sits a fraction lower and misses everything and the exhaust tips sit slightly further out - Now no exhaust vibration when the motor cold and actually sounds quieter up to about 4,000 RPM - I think that I had a slight leak around the old cats. Over 4k the exhaust note now has a nice tone to it, even with the standard rear section.

    No light on the Dash with O2 sensor installed fully but they told me that they will probably code this out next week

    At the same time I had changed to the yellow string in preparation for the Map and car is pulling better through the rev range so all good. With be interesting to see the readings once it goes on the Dyno next week both before and after.




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    O2 sensor issue

    Hi for all you with more wisdom than me. getting a Map put on the car and it keeps doing some funny stuff and just will not run with the Map. Also have issues getting the car to talk to Vagcom unless the dash fuses are pulled ??

    car - AMK 2001
    dp - Relentless with sports car
    DV - 008 yellow spring
    TIP - B5
    N249 delete
    catch can vented back to tip
    new MAF
    new fuel filter & pump
    INstrument cluster - new DIS
    Clarion headunit - nothing wired into the 'kline' connector

    New stat & sensor - but it appears to be playing up - goes up to 90 but drops when on motorways - my thoughts need to do the stat again.

    car has very slight rough idle but on standard map runs and pulls well

    has thrown the following fault codes

    5 Faults Found:


    18058 - Powertrain Data Bus
    P1650 - 35-00 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster
    17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
    P1570 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
    17524 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S1
    P1116 - 35-00 - Open Circuit
    17511 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Heating; B1 S1
    P1103 - 35-00 - Performance too Low
    16885 - Vehicle Speed Sensor
    P0501 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal


    Readiness: 0110 0100

    The first two and last errors will be as the dash fuses have been removed to get it to talk to vagcom.


    Sample of logs

    Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:35:42:37412
    8N0 906 018 AG
    Group A: '003 Group B: '020 Group C: '031
    RPM Mass Flow Load Ign. Timing Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization Idle Stabilization Lambda Factor Lambda Factor Bin. Bits Bin. Bits
    TIME TIME TIME
    Marker STAMP /min g/s % °BTDC STAMP °KW °KW °KW °KW STAMP
    0.6 760 2.5 1.6 0 0.02 0 0 0 0 0.3 1 0.992
    1.51 760 2.92 3.5 9 0.92 0 0 0 0 1.21 1 0.992
    2.52 1680 13.86 9.8 26.3 1.91 0 0 1.5 1.5 2.22 1 0.992
    3.43 1880 17.92 12.5 25.5 2.83 0 0 1.5 1.5 3.13 1 0.992
    4.33 1720 16.25 11.4 26.3 3.73 0 0 1.5 0 4.03 1 0.992
    5.24 2160 22.08 14.5 26.3 4.63 0 0 0.8 0 4.95 1 0.992
    6.24 3080 43.89 23.1 27 5.64 0 0 0 0 5.94 1 0.992
    7.15 3400 10.36 4.7 3 6.55 0 0 0 0 6.85 1 0.992
    8.06 2720 17.67 11.8 22.5 7.45 0 0 0 0 7.75 1 0.992
    8.96 2600 36.5 23.9 23.3 8.36 0 0 0 0 8.66 1 0.992
    9.87 3080 54.22 33.3 21.8 9.26 0 0 0 0 9.56 1 0.992
    10.77 3760 96.44 100 15.8 10.17 0 0 0 0 10.47 1 0.992
    11.68 4000 0 4.7 4.5 11.07 0 0 0 0 11.38 1 0.992
    12.67 2840 6.44 5.1 1.5 11.97 0 0 0 0 12.29 1 1.047
    13.58 2720 6.78 5.1 0.8 12.98 0 0 0 0 13.29 1 1.047
    14.48 2640 6.86 5.1 0.8 13.88 0 0 0 0 14.19 1 1.047
    15.39 2520 6.58 4.7 0.8 14.79 0 0 0 0 15.08 1 1.047
    16.29 2400 6.19 4.3 -0.8 15.69 0 0 0 0 15.99 1 1.047
    17.21 2360 23.17 16.9 27.8 16.6 0 0 0 0 16.91 1 0.984
    18.11 2560 52.72 95.3 15 17.51 0 0 0 0 17.81 1 0.992
    19.02 2840 81.11 98.8 9 18.41 0 0 0 0 18.72 1 0.922
    19.91 3160 131.69 100 -0.8 19.32 0 0 0 0 19.61 1 0.86
    20.82 3080 5.03 5.1 2.3 20.23 0 0 0 0 20.52 1 1.047
    21.73 2920 7.64 5.9 1.5 21.12 0 0 0 0 21.43 1 1.047
    22.73 2760 7.33 5.5 1.5 22.03 0 0 0 0 22.35 1 1.047
    23.75 2600 6.78 5.1 0.8 23.04 0 0 0 0 23.46 1 1.047
    24.65 2480 6.64 4.7 0 24.05 0 0 0 0 24.37 1 1.047
    25.55 2320 6 4.3 -0.8 24.95 0 0 0 0 25.25 1 1.047
    26.46 2280 5.39 3.9 32.3 25.86 0 0 0 0 26.15 1 1.047
    27.37 2280 19.78 12.9 27 26.75 0 0 0 0 27.05 1 0.984
    28.26 2440 46.83 94.9 15 27.66 0 0 0 0 27.97 1 0.992
    29.18 2760 72.92 96.9 10.5 28.57 0 0 0 0 28.87 1 0.992
    30.08 3000 118.44 100 -2.3 29.48 0 0 0 0 29.78 1 0.906
    30.99 3160 0 3.5 1.5 30.39 0 1.5 0 0 30.68 1 1.047

    Any thoughts and comments appreciated

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    18058/P1650/005712 - Ross-Tech Wiki

    Search results for "17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer " - Ross-Tech Wiki

    17524/P1116/004374 - Ross-Tech Wiki

    16885/P0501/001281 - Ross-Tech Wiki

    this may give you a rough idea of the solutions mate.. not sure though maybe however did the fix on the instrument cluster "might" be related

    other question is who did you get the DIS done with ?

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    Cheers Sevv,

    pulled the O2 sensor and its 11 years old so probably it but will try cleaning all terminals you never know as that is one of the cheap fixes.

    The bugger is that car is going really well on standard tune but when they put the map on it all the faults come to the surface.

    I sent the instrument cluster to guy in Melb - posted in from Canberra on a Monday and he had it back in Sydney in Wednesday's mail.

    His price included the return express post

    Think he gives a 12 mth warranty

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAB View Post
    Cheers Sevv,

    pulled the O2 sensor and its 11 years old so probably it but will try cleaning all terminals you never know as that is one of the cheap fixes.

    The bugger is that car is going really well on standard tune but when they put the map on it all the faults come to the surface.

    I sent the instrument cluster to guy in Melb - posted in from Canberra on a Monday and he had it back in Sydney in Wednesday's mail.

    His price included the return express post

    Think he gives a 12 mth warranty

    Autotronic LCFS Pty Ltd ABN 74740626994 - Contact Us

    thanks mate, well i changed both my O2 sensor in the begining of the year i think they are worth 180pounds for both i got them from the UK [awseomegti] they are genuine bosch from the dealer so its not too expensive in case you need to replace compared to 360-390 ea. from the dealer here in Aus.

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    Thanks - was looking at ECP but they do not seem to have a Bosch one -

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAB View Post
    Thanks - was looking at ECP but they do not seem to have a Bosch one -
    talk to mike from awesome gti he will sort you out mate he has to me.. i currently have allot on order that will be coming hopefully end of november if you need space i can put ur items with mine and ship em.. saves you abit but not sure if you live in Sydney...

    btw wat r u doing aake at bloody 3:30am lol..(my excuse is work)

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    Finally going well

    Its been awhile - Sevv thanks for the offer - went OS for holiday

    Checking over the car found split in braided hose to FPR from the manifold so this would explain poor performance under higher demand. So out with the silicon

    New O2 sensor for the DP.

    Re read some of the other build threads and as a result had a shipment arrive from Badger 5 - thanks Bill




    Car treated to new silicon on charge system
    new injector orings
    new fuse box on top of battery - one of the terminals had too much movement and was causing the fuse to arc => overheating and blowing.
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    Time for MAP

    So car running well so time to have it Mapped for the first time.

    All went well this time and as others have said the car is totally different to drive. It was a wet day on on the drive home first time that I have felt that I needed more grip. If they had of come out like then I imagine that they would have sold a lot of cars.

    For those who like pictures, logs of 4th run after the effects of not having a FMIC where starting to show -made about 162kw on the first run.




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    Good buy Ming Blue -

    Had the car Wrapt - RS 4 blue, black euro style roof and carbon inserts - here are some photos hope you enjoy

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    Nice! I like the carbon. Only thing I'm not sure on are the chrome mirrors and door handles. Perhaps colour coded? Each to their own though Nice one.
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