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    Hi guys

    Pretty sure I saw a guide (with pics) on how to change your brake pads and discs (S3). Can't seem to find it anywhere. Anyone else see it?

    Only changed brakes once on my fiat coupe and just wanted to use that guide as a reference.
    if anyone can find it, will be very grateful!

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    Thanks guys

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    ahhhhhh i went through that one but the pics didnt show up! bloody phone! haha on the laptop now so it all popped up

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    as well as the above...........

    is this video a good example to use as reference when doing my brakes?

    Replacing VW Golf Mk5 front brake pads and discs - "How to" - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTackalakalaka View Post
    as well as the above...........

    is this video a good example to use as reference when doing my brakes?

    Replacing VW Golf Mk5 front brake pads and discs - "How to" - YouTube
    Yes mate, pretty much the same procedure for your S3. Take note on how the mechanic whacked the ratchet to get the calliper bolts off, it will save you some time!



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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Yes mate, pretty much the same procedure for your S3. Take note on how the mechanic whacked the ratchet to get the calliper bolts off, it will save you some time!
    Brilliant!! thanks for that!! quite excited to do them now! haha

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    ahhhh one more thing........ wind back tool for rear callipers? seen quite a few different ones on ebay. will any do? or will i need some sort of special one that is made out of diced lion?

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    Went to do my brakes today and the two little bolts/screws for the discs are in a horrendous state. Had a quick look on eBay for some but no luck. Anyone know where I can get some new ones from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    You don't need that one in particular, I use the 7mm from this set:

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    Wouldn't any 7mm Allen do? I got loads for my bmx

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTackalakalaka View Post
    Wouldn't any 7mm Allen do? I got loads for my bmx
    It will fit, but I think you will find it hard to get the leverage to undo them without a ratchet.



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    a ratchet isn`t really the tool to use to start undoing bolts, use a t bar or strong arm first then the ratchet for speed.

    too much force through the ratchet and it will soon be kaput..........
    red to red black to black blue to bits

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    Will this rear caliper tool do?eBay - The UK's Online Marketplace

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    Looks a bit weird, but may work, I thought that tool is for adjusting the caliper?

    I've used this type, really good:



    You'll find it on eBay: BERGEN Tools Professional Disc Brake Caliper Pad Piston Spreader | eBay
    Last edited by Tricki; 16th April 2012 at 18:31. Reason: Link to tool on eBay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricki View Post
    You don't need that one in particular, I use the 7mm from this set:

    the point here is that they are long so they clear the bolt for the brake hose -
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    Isn't that for the front calipers?

    I think the rear requires a different one doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTackalakalaka View Post
    Yes mate, that's what you need for the rears.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTackalakalaka View Post
    Isn't that for the front calipers?

    I think the rear requires a different one doesn't it?
    Sorry mate, didn't realise you were talking about the rears. You're on it
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    Did my brakes today. All went nice and smooth!! Was very surprised how easy they were to do. (I'm a complete novice at working on cars)
    Gone back to standard discs and mintex pads after having dotted and grooved discs and mintex pads. All parts including copper grease, torque wrench, 7mm allen key etc etc came to £116.

    Only problem i had was on the rear drivers side, the screw holding the disc in place rounded off due to it seizing in the hub so had to drill the head off.......bonus side was there was enough screw sticking out to hold the disc in place!

    Thanks for everyone who gave me advice!! Very pleased

    Case Closed!!!! haha

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    Hi, I need to replace front and rear brakes on my new S3. What discs and pads did you buy? I guess I need to buy two calliper tools also? Standard prising ones for the front and screw type ones for the rear?


    Edit, I've just bought the rear tool and the front. Just need cheap reasonable quality discs and pads now! Would it also be worth changing the hoses for stainless braided? I have on my M3 but that's in conjunction with AP 6 pots front and AP 4's on the back! I'll be keeping the std calipers on the s3! Until a decently priced set of Porsche calipers come up for sale!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlaag View Post
    Hi, I need to replace front and rear brakes on my new S3. What discs and pads did you buy? I guess I need to buy two calliper tools also? Standard prising ones for the front and screw type ones for the rear?


    Edit, I've just bought the rear tool and the front. Just need cheap reasonable quality discs and pads now! Would it also be worth changing the hoses for stainless braided? I have on my M3 but that's in conjunction with AP 6 pots front and AP 4's on the back! I'll be keeping the std calipers on the s3! Until a decently priced set of Porsche calipers come up for sale!


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    Hello mate!

    I got mintex m1144 pads and the discs were just standard vented Eicher discs.

    I think the hoses are totally up to you!! definitely worth doing as an upgrade, heard lots of good things about doing it, much sharper response etc.
    If my hoses ever split etc then ill definitely upgrade them but i think until then ill just stick with standard ones, save some money! I guess if you do get some Porsche Calipers then it might be worth doing it at the same time!
    Also depends what you use your car for? everyday use? track use etc!!

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    Thanks mate, I ended up just getting pagid discs and pads all round. ECP have 30% off all brake parts... The lot for £140 odd... easy as peas!

    Cheers though me old mucker

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    hey guys question how do you remove the wheel hub bearing inorder to remove the disc itself as im stuck with the car on stands wuold appreciate any advice

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    Why do you need to remove the bearing? Usually the disc is just fixed to the hub with a small philips screw and it sounds like the S3 runs the same setup?
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    All you need to do is remove the retaining screw that holds the disc to the hub. This will most likely be corroded so will prob need to be drilled out.

    then a few smacks with a hammer on the disc should see it come off!

    Leave hub/bearing well alone!

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    Why does everyone drill the retaining screw off? Use a frikin impact screwdriver, it works wonders! Even on my 185k miles Passat, came off no problems!



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    hello guys i have removed the screw.. and yes youre right i dont need to remove the wheel hub bearing but seriously what a cun*t of a job it was the disc wouldnt budge ill try using a soft hammer and empty half the bottle of WD40 on it i think its siezed... so at the end i up it all back up though my pedal feel is stuffed so dont know what i did wrong there.....

    ill give it a go tomorow as the car is going to audi for the next 2-3 weeks for the warranty job ont he roof rails...

    thanks for the replies and advice much appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Why does everyone drill the retaining screw off? Use a frikin impact screwdriver, it works wonders! Even on my 185k miles Passat, came off no problems!
    Some people may have rounded heads, brittle screw heads etc... and not everyone has an impact driver.

    Drill and replace has worked for me numerous times.

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    If you don't have an impact driver you can hit the disc with a hammer a few times and it will shock the retaining screw loose so that it can be taken out with a normal screwdriver, obviously hit where the screw is placed.

    Failing that if you're replacing the discs anyway then just smash the disc off the hub by hitting the inside of it on the side where the screw sits, the screw will break easily this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bengal View Post
    If you don't have an impact driver you can hit the disc with a hammer a few times and it will shock the retaining screw loose so that it can be taken out with a normal screwdriver, obviously hit where the screw is placed.

    Failing that if you're replacing the discs anyway then just smash the disc off the hub by hitting the inside of it on the side where the screw sits, the screw will break easily this way.
    Or you could just put a crosshead screwdriver on the screw and hammer it also, it's the shock of it that loosens it as mentioned above!



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    hi guys i have taken the disc off as Paul has advised me along with you lads.. however the tarox brake kit wont fit... i put the caliper bracket on then put the disc on then come the headache of trying to fit the caliper tried many different ways however it seems the disc is too big for the caliper ???? the bolt just wont slot in the place inorder to tighten them up to the bracket... any help advice would be appreciated

    these are a few pictures of the caliper disc etc...

    do i possibly take off the disc shield off inorder to fit the disc as the disc is rubbing against it too

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    Doesn't sound right? Maybe it's the wrong kit or something? I'd image all mk4's would be the same!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_ View Post
    Doesn't sound right? Maybe it's the wrong kit or something? I'd image all mk4's would be the same!
    hey Sam well mate i got it from awesome ill be seriously gutted mate if its wrong i paid around 580 for shipping and customs here is the link for the brakes i got ... the pics seem to be the same when i look at them

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    Make sure you have the brackets the right way around... it will alter the calipers centre to the disc...

    And remove the dust guards

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