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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    I said here! I'd even have given you the part number.

    share the part number

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    Oh sod it. They're bought now anyway so I'll just use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prawn View Post
    Westy, are they genuine in any way? Would you perhaps not be best off going for some direct from TPS? or through jason? or am I missing something on the ad?
    VW Jason couldn't get a better deal then £100ish IIRC

    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    I said here! I'd even have given you the part number.
    Sorry bud, I've been flicking around so much today I didn't even see this post
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    Them rings are fine westy made by nippon....quality products,,,
    dont you put the drill in reverse few times to finish when honing?

    Beachbuggy them rings seem very cheap what make are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post

    Beachbuggy them rings seem very cheap what make are they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    So are you finally rebuilding yours with a possible hybrid?
    Ahhh now that would be telling
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    Federal-mogul Goetze
    Found this 'clicky'
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    Theres no price on this one...
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    So on the last invoice I have it says special sc500 with a part number 08-502900-00 price per set is £46 including vat. Now if anyone has problems ordering these from GSF let Me know as I'll get a few sets and just sell them at cost plus postage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    So on the last invoice I have it says special sc500 with a part number 08-502900-00 price per set is £46 including vat. Now if anyone has problems ordering these from GSF let Me know as I'll get a few sets and just sell them at cost plus postage.
    Just phoned GSF and gave them the part number n it's not one of theirs. So they looked at one of their outside suppliers and found them but apparently they're out of stock and have superseded.
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    Ok, so after quite a few pms over the GSF piston rings and people not being able to order them from GSF I have just ordered 5 sets from GSF with collection tomorrow. Lemons3 has taken a set so have 4 others up for sale. I'm not making any money on them cos I'm nice like that :-) rings are £46 per set. Postage £3.50 recorded. £1 per set for fuel for me to collect and visit post office. Total is £50.50. PayPal is good as long as fees covered. Pm with your interested.

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    Sent you a PM but just encase anyone else was wondering the same thing. Are the rings starting from the top 1.5mm, 1.75mm and 2mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon S3 View Post
    Sent you a PM but just encase anyone else was wondering the same thing. Are the rings starting from the top 1.5mm, 1.75mm and 2mm?
    Positions are quite important too I think but I dont know where the ring gaps should go for each ring.
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    Videos are in my build thread... I even gave you the link in your own post Westy ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    Videos are in my build thread... I even gave you the link in your own post Westy ;P

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    I've got so much info in my head that my memory is not very good. You know that

    Anyway those rings i ordered are gonna go into the engine and it'll all be done.
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    Wahay full rebuild...well except main bearings you going to do them as well Westy
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    Wahay full rebuild...well except main bearings you going to do them as well Westy
    Main bearings?
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    On your crank to block

    Involves lots more bolt replacement and is a pita with having to remove the crank pulley which is bloody tight

    Just thought I'd plant the seed lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    On your crank to block

    Involves lots more bolt replacement and is a pita with having to remove the crank pulley which is bloody tight

    Just thought I'd plant the seed lol
    Well you know where you can stick that seed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Main bearings?


    stop upsetting him.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Positions are quite important too I think but I dont know where the ring gaps should go for each ring.
    usually 180 degrees from each other....

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post
    usually 180 degrees from each other....
    Yeah but does it matter where you start? For example, bottom ring gap is at 12 o'clock on the piston, middle ring is 5 o'clock, top ring 9 o'clock.
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    Ive sent you the vids too, ages ago ! the 1.8t rebuild part 1 to 6 on you tube...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    that makes sense the maximum distance each gap can be ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s3dave View Post


    stop upsetting him.....
    Ooops lol

    But to be honest mate not worth doing them as it is such an agro to do, i would omly change them if removing the crank for a rebore or something

    iirc think the ring positioning on 1.8t's was 120 degrees rotation so would be 12, 4 and 8 oclock but will check elsa when at work tommorrow as left the car/work laptop at work.... Doh
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    You may well need a diamond tipped needle file to gap the rings as when we was doing mine my normal needle files werent touching them and would have taken all day to file them down as they're rather hard and luckily managed to borrow a file off of a local engineering firm
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    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyS3 View Post
    You may well need a diamond tipped needle file to gap the rings as when we was doing mine my normal needle files werent touching them and would have taken all day to file them down as they're rather hard and luckily managed to borrow a file off of a local engineering firm
    This is why I couldn't be arsed with doing the rings, bloody ball ache! How important is it to gap the rings if the engine hasn't been re bored?
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    I've rebuilt two, and both didnt need the rings gapped. The rings were already the right size.

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    must be lucky, i have had to gap many rebuilt ones.LOL Its a right PITA

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    I'm hoping for some lucky piston rings then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westy View Post
    Positions are quite important too I think but I dont know where the ring gaps should go for each ring.
    Just space them into three parts (120 degrees), that's what I've always done.
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    These arrived today:







    Do I HAVE to use a set of piston ring pliers to fit these or can they be done by hand?
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    Just looking at the oil scrapper rings the set on the left, they look completely different to the stock ones and ones I've used. Not saying yours wont work, as I don't know that but they look a different type.

    Stock ones are a metal U shaped ring that has a metal spring like coil with a wire running through the middle. That one above looks like the scrunched up Zigzag style with a ring underneath.

    Like I say, not saying it wont work, just different.

    And in answer to your question. A piston ring tool is good to use but it can certainly be done perfectly well without one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    Just looking at the oil scrapper rings the set on the left, they look completely different to the stock ones and ones I've used. Not saying yours wont work, as I don't know that but they look a different type.

    Stock ones are a metal U shaped ring that has a metal spring like coil with a wire running through the middle. That one above looks like the scrunched up Zigzag style with a ring underneath.

    Like I say, not saying it wont work, just different.

    And in answer to your question. A piston ring tool is good to use but it can certainly be done perfectly well without one.
    Yes just a different design, it does the same job...

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    I bought mahle ones, and they had the U shape and spring arrangement.

    I'd seriously suggest using pliers. The rings are hardened steel and the pistons are very soft alloy, mash them together trying to prize the ring on and you'll easily take gouges out of the piston.

    I have a set of these:
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    Quote Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
    I bought mahle ones, and they had the U shape and spring arrangement.

    I'd seriously suggest using pliers. The rings are hardened steel and the pistons are very soft alloy, mash them together trying to prize the ring on and you'll easily take gouges out of the piston.

    I have a set of these:
    PRO 50mm 100mm PISTON RING REMOVER REMOVAL PLIERS TOOL | eBay
    They're exactly the same pliers i ordered last night

    Is the honing brush in the post Kev?
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    yeh, posted at half 8 this morning :P

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