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    Hybrid Turbo K04

    hi what else is realy needed to get the best out of the hybrid turbo. i hear that a xs power manifold and 3 inch down pipe but what else should be done sud i be thinking about an intercooler. turbo timer?

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    Intercooler, 3" tip with decent filter (would recommend the badger 5 tip) and possibly WMi to get good gains out of it but would certinally recommend putting a set of forged rods in the engine

    There is of coarse an endless list of mods you can do but these are a good place to start at
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    Yes you will need an FMIC for a hybrid to run happily, you won't need a turbo timer though. If driven responsibly you shouldn't ever need a turbo timer.

    Fitting a hybrid without any internal upgrades is pushing your luck, Bill at Badger 5 is the man to talk too if you are serious about doing it.

    There are some very good threads on here with great info on fitting a hybrid, do a bit of a search. In the mean time this is a good read on SCN -

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    i was looking at backdraft motorsport site at there BDM K04 Hybrid Turbo. where do you buy the bader5 tip from and how much

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    i was looking at backdraft motorsport site at there BDM K04 Hybrid Turbo. where do you buy the bader5 tip from and how much
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    Personally I would ring Bill, and talk him through your application and he will talk you through what is possible, what is probable, costings and your best way to achieve it. Buying a hybrid and slapping it on is only half of the work, if you speak to a specialist like Bill you will get first class service and will be working with somebody who knows what they are doing.

    Have you considered the fact that you will need to install rods to safely achieve the stated powers of a hybrid?

    What sort of power are you looking for? Why are you looking to do this work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16Klappe View Post
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    Personally I would ring Bill, and talk him through your application and he will talk you through what is possible, what is probable, costings and your best way to achieve it. Buying a hybrid and slapping it on is only half of the work, if you speak to a specialist like Bill you will get first class service and will be working with somebody who knows what they are doing.

    Have you considered the fact that you will need to install rods to safely achieve the stated powers of a hybrid?

    What sort of power are you looking for? Why are you looking to do this work?
    Don't forget Bill has his own section on ASN now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    hi what else is realy needed to get the best out of the hybrid turbo. i hear that a xs power manifold and 3 inch down pipe but what else should be done sud i be thinking about an intercooler. turbo timer?
    Hi and welcome to ASN...

    There are quite a few threads on this here, search for users Welly and Dane for a start (use the advance search system)

    Turbo timer is a pointless addition as the S3's have after run water pumps..

    Basics are..
    Decent FMIC (large ebay cooler or Welly cooler as its now know or AH Fabs V2... see the stickies for more info on FMIC's
    3" downpipe...
    Custom mapping (not stage 1/2)
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    550cc injectors

    To get the best from it...
    Large port head (AEB/AGU etc)
    Water Methanol Injection (WMI)
    XS Power manifold
    Badger 5 80mm TIP
    Jetex filter (and heatshield if you prefer)

    Bill @ Badger 5 has done a fair few of these now...

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    Like everyone says above...Mani, rods, tip, fmic, downpipe all necessary.

    My hybrid goes on tomorrow with xs power mani. Should be interesting.

    Good luck with your build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    (large ebay cooler or Welly cooler as its now known)
    LOL. That always makes me smile....

    Exact size is: 600x300x76mm (FMIC FFRONT MOUNT TURBO INTERCOOLER TYPE B 600x300x76MM | eBay)
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    that fmic that you have show on ebay will need pipes and fittings where abouts do i get them from do you know any kits that will go with that item welly. basicly i have got my engine out and it seems a shame not to basicaly do what iv always wanted to du make it a flying machine im not in a massive rush to get it back tagether and im looking at the options

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    that fmic that you have show on ebay will need pipes and fittings where abouts do i get them from do you know any kits that will go with that item welly. basicly i have got my engine out and it seems a shame not to basicaly do what iv always wanted to du make it a flying machine im not in a massive rush to get it back tagether and im looking at the options
    Loads of FMIC info in the stickies.... lets keep this thread on topic...

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    what rods sre needed and where is the best place to purchase these

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    what rods sre needed and where is the best place to purchase these
    Most people use Integrated Engineering rods, but there are a fair few on the market these days, Scat and Brute amongst others make rods for the 1.8 20v T.

    I'd go with the IE ones as that's what I have fitted. Advisable following others experiences to fit rifle drilled versions.
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    Bill @ Bagder 5 sells them... Badger 5 on ASN

    Normally keeps Brute or Integrated Engineering rods... S3 will need 20mm rods (reference to the gudgeon pin size)

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    Integrated Engineering VW 1.8t Forged Rods For Late 1.8 Turbo Engines 20v 19mm Audi are these the boys you are talking about even tho they are 19mm

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    sent you a email badger to your work email. what is the diffence between the too and what du du get with the extra 100 quid

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    And what power bhp would you recomend rods??

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquids3 View Post
    And what power bhp would you recomend rods??
    To be honest, Bhp is too narrow a focus as there is far more at play like psi and torque to consider.

    It also depends on how aggressive the mapping is but the rods can go at any time and quite low bhp figures.

    I will be continuing to limit and manage at under 300lb of torque until the rods are done.

    Any more and I'll be putting it under too much duress I imagine.

    Reliable and consistent performance delivery is my aim though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquids3 View Post
    And what power bhp would you recomend rods??
    Its not hp that bends them... its torque... this has been discussed more times than I care to remember tbh mate and all it ever does is create a bun fight...

    K03/4/hybrids are spikey in boost deliver... combination of that and more timing advance creates extremely high cylinder pressures that puts a lot of stress on the rods... our cars are old (regardless of mileage) and the stress of this level of tuning requires rods IMO...

    Please have a search for the other threads but if this one turns into another 'rods' thread I'll just delete them... lets keep it on topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    sent you a email badger to your work email. what is the diffence between the too and what du du get with the extra 100 quid
    Rifle drilling provides an oil way like the OEM rods to feed oil to the small end bushes... these tend to provide better reliability under certain circumstances... non rifle drilled rely on the oil squirters

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    Thanks!,i will be in contact as wel then,another thing out the way then and not a bad price really!,thanks for replys,some of us are more new to more engine work mods!,thanks!,will book in for remap at some point as wel!(with front bumper of)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquids3 View Post
    Thanks!,i will be in contact as wel then,another thing out the way then and not a bad price really!,thanks for replys,some of us are more new to more engine work mods!,thanks!,will book in for remap at some point as wel!(with front bumper of)!
    No probs mate... the 'rod' debate always seems to bring the worst out of people lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    K03/4/hybrids are spikey in boost deliver... combination of that and more timing advance creates extremely high cylinder pressures that puts a lot of stress on the rods... our cars are old (regardless of mileage) and the stress of this level of tuning requires rods IMO...
    Have you seen the log of Prawns hybrid, on day one of it's tune?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16Klappe View Post
    Have you seen the log of Prawns hybrid, on day one of it's tune?
    Yes

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    All I can say is that you REALLY need an XS power/relentless manifold on there with a hybrid, the gains to be had are simply insane.
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    what is the differance with the stage 1 2 3 hybrid turbos except the power too the one that backdraft motorsport offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    what is the differance with the stage 1 2 3 hybrid turbos except the power too the one that backdraft motorsport offer
    The only one worth getting is one built with the 2283 comp wheel...

    CR Turbos I know do these as Bill @ Badger 5 has done a few and has defined his own spec for the ones he fits... in Wellys S3 with all the usual mods it made between 330hp and 340hp

    All this stage nonsense is just that... nonsense IMO... having been involved in most of the builds on this section of the forum where hybrids have been used I can say just buy one with that comp wheel and be done... there are all sorts of power claims with these but the 2283 is proven... have loads of data for it... its even been used in a K03 and made over 320hp...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;1487323
    The only one worth getting is one built with the 2283 comp wheel...

    CR Turbos I know do these as Bill @ Badger 5 has done a few and has defined his own spec for the ones he fits... in Wellys S3 with all the usual mods it made between 330hp and 340hp

    All this stage nonsense is just that... nonsense IMO... having been involved in most of the builds on this section of the forum where hybrids have been used I can say just buy one with that comp wheel and be done... there are all sorts of power claims with these but the 2283 is proven... have loads of data for it... its even been used in a K03 and made over 320hp...

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    Quote Originally Posted by <tuffty/> View Post
    The only one worth getting is one built with the 2283 comp wheel...

    CR Turbos I know do these as Bill @ Badger 5 has done a few and has defined his own spec for the ones he fits... in Wellys S3 with all the usual mods it made between 330hp and 340hp

    All this stage nonsense is just that... nonsense IMO... having been involved in most of the builds on this section of the forum where hybrids have been used I can say just buy one with that comp wheel and be done... there are all sorts of power claims with these but the 2283 is proven... have loads of data for it... its even been used in a K03 and made over 320hp...

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    Im getting a 2280 comp (hybrid) made,because the 2283 is rarely avalible i think!,is this a bad idea?

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    Tuffty,

    The 2283 is a great wheel, beautifully made and can flow immense amount of air. I've shown this to my machine guy and he was stunned by the complexity and work involved to make this wheel and for the price it's amazing.

    All this said it is still over kill for the humble k04. Problems with surge and small exhaust housings make it a little to powerful. Yes 344bhp can be achieved but this was a one off, a practical 310-320bhp in my opinion is about right for this turbo, others may disagree. With this in mind the 2280 compressor is more than capable of this, however nobody wants a lower spec hybrid turbo, why spend £800 on a hybrid when for £900 you can have the top spec one! I agree with this but also think the some companies down play the 2280 when fitting to stage 1 turbos to warrant the extra cost of the 2283 compressor when actually it costs £18 more to buy! Call me cynical but I've learnt a lot about the business of hybrids I would be very interested in seeing what similar spec hybrids, 1 with a 2280 and the other a 2283 do side by side.

    I agree staging turbos is just a marketing tool. Fact is it pretty much costs the same to build a stage 1 than a stage 4!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    Fact is it pretty much costs the same to build a stage 1 than a stage 4!
    100% agree with you on this one!

    So while getting an hybrid...get the best of it or keep it stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbuggy View Post
    Tuffty,

    The 2283 is a great wheel, beautifully made and can flow immense amount of air. I've shown this to my machine guy and he was stunned by the complexity and work involved to make this wheel and for the price it's amazing.

    All this said it is still over kill for the humble k04. Problems with surge and small exhaust housings make it a little to powerful. Yes 344bhp can be achieved but this was a one off, a practical 310-320bhp in my opinion is about right for this turbo, others may disagree. With this in mind the 2280 compressor is more than capable of this, however nobody wants a lower spec hybrid turbo, why spend £800 on a hybrid when for £900 you can have the top spec one! I agree with this but also think the some companies down play the 2280 when fitting to stage 1 turbos to warrant the extra cost of the 2283 compressor when actually it costs £18 more to buy! Call me cynical but I've learnt a lot about the business of hybrids I would be very interested in seeing what similar spec hybrids, 1 with a 2280 and the other a 2283 do side by side.

    I agree staging turbos is just a marketing tool. Fact is it pretty much costs the same to build a stage 1 than a stage 4!
    by the way im not slating what you have said to me,im on a learning curve!,you and tufty have the knowledge,im asking,just want the best power for money,and you have given me a great price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    where is the cheapest place to buy a hybrid turbo
    I can understand why but I really don't think that it's about which is cheapest but, like stated by the key men on this site, components are the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam333 View Post
    sent you a email badger to your work email. what is the diffence between the too and what du du get with the extra 100 quid
    OE rods are rifle drilled.. cheaper firged are not and rely on splash lubrication to lubricate the small ends.. This in my experience is not 100%, as some installs have a faint small end rattle over time as the small end pin wears due to inadequate lubrication.

    Rifle Drilled forged rods have pressure fed oil to the small end like OE... which to me is my favoured rod. It costs more to get this done hence price is more.

    There is NO MAGIC SAFE POWER/TORQUE FIGURE where you can be guaranteed rods will be ok...
    these engines/cars are 10 years old and have done 1000's of cycles...

    It is FOOLISH to think that sub x bhp and y torque its "ok"
    Dream on... and hope luck is on your side.. cos thats what you are riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badger5 View Post
    OE rods are rifle drilled.. cheaper firged are not and rely on splash lubrication to lubricate the small ends.. This in my experience is not 100%, as some installs have a faint small end rattle over time as the small end pin wears due to inadequate lubrication.

    Rifle Drilled forged rods have pressure fed oil to the small end like OE... which to me is my favoured rod. It costs more to get this done hence price is more.

    There is NO MAGIC SAFE POWER/TORQUE FIGURE where you can be guaranteed rods will be ok...
    these engines/cars are 10 years old and have done 1000's of cycles...

    It is FOOLISH to think that sub x bhp and y torque its "ok"
    Dream on... and hope luck is on your side.. cos thats what you are riding.

    when buying rod please go for the rifle drilled. i made the mistake of buying non rifle drilled and had a nightmare trying to get them drilled. bills prices for rifle drilled rods are very good indeed

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    What is the price for Rods and fitment?

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    rod price will depend on what type you wanted....
    fitting you are into ~£450+vat region plus parts as a guide price
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